[Overclockers]

as we know....there are many many linux out of there....but can anybody tell me what is the best of the best linux.....? and what are the advantages it have.....?


thanx

[ken257]

My favorite is SuSE 7.2 followed closely by Mandrake 8. Both are very easy to install and maintane even for the beginner. In my experiance SuSE has just been a little bit more refined/stable then Mandrake.

[rugby]

"best" Who is the most beautiful woman? Everyone has different wants and desires in an OS and a woman. I like Mandrake personally.

[Superman53142]

I like Mandrake, too. I even have my web server running off it. Works great.

[Vryce]

Call me crazy, but I prefer Slackware 8
It's easy to install, and gets along well with other OS's, setting up X is easy if you go over the "slackware book" on their site

I'll agree with the previous posts that Suse or Mandrake, or even Redhat are "install and go" kinda systems, great if you don't wanna spend a while reading HOW-TO's

[dolemitecomputer]

I prefer Mandrake 8.0. Very easy to install and to get running.

[parkan]

I prefer SuSE, it's compatible with redhat, easy to use and has tons of extr packages.

[Hack]

The simplest answer I can offer, there is no one "best" Linux distro. All distros have their good and bad. Of course it goes without saying that the Linux system I run is the best.









Now, were you to ask "which Linux distro do I prefer to run, when I'm faced with running one ?" I'd have to answer Slackware. Reason being, it works, without all the fancy graphic razzle-dazzle. I'm not gonna bother to get into trying to compare distros, I'd be here for days and no doubt, if I got into expressing my views of what distro's I know anything of, I'd start an all out holy war. ( I didn't like what I saw of Mandrake 8.0 when I disabled Aurora ) That said, all distros have little quirks, it's more a matter of finding out which of those quirks best suits your needs.









Suffice it to say, any Linux distro is far superior to these braindead crippled OS's that Microscrew passes off as worthy of consuming "your" hard drive space.







Hack...

[nihili]

I have to say that I have yet to get an installation of Linux working on a computer in what I would call a useable fashion. I've tried, several distros, including Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0. I'm currently trying to get Mandrake 8.0 running on a P133 box but the installer chokes everytime. 7.2 will install but installs a different set of components every time, seldom the ones I want. Oh, and 8.0 chokes in several different ways. Previously I tried installing several versions on my laptop. After they all failed, I finally went out and bought the boxed version of Mandrake 7.2 hoping that would work. But it was no more successful than the others.

I'm not saying that Mandrake sucks, nor that Linux does. Just that despite being relatively computer literate and passably intelligent *I* couldn't get them to work.

nihili

[AgEnT0140]

You said p1 133 right? because 8.0 wont work on it. It says i586, not i486. you need to find the right version on their site for your computer. in other words don't try installing a i586 on a i486. I tried that and then figured out what was wrong. Oh and about the package thing..... make sure you check off the packages right because i had that problem too. i think they have to be depressed buttons to work but i could be wrong. Try 7.0 on that p133 and it should work. i'm not sure yet cuz i'm in the process of downloading it right now. hope this helps!

[parkan]

Originally posted by AgEnT0140
You said p1 133 right? because 8.0 wont work on it. It says i586, not i486. you need to find the right version on their site for your computer. in other words don't try installing a i586 on a i486. I tried that and then figured out what was wrong. Oh and about the package thing..... make sure you check off the packages right because i had that problem too. i think they have to be depressed buttons to work but i could be wrong. Try 7.0 on that p133 and it should work. i'm not sure yet cuz i'm in the process of downloading it right now. hope this helps!

Is there something wrong with me or is pentium1=586?

[nihili]

Actually the problem I'm having on that machine is that Mandrake 8.0 won't correctly identify the NIC. Mandrake 7.2 will, but it has other problems. So today I tried installing it on a different machine, a P120 this time. It couldn't even figure out what the cdrom was. The bios had not trouble, WIN NT had no trouble, but Linux was clueless. This btw is the same model CD that it had coreectly detected on the P133.

I would really like to have a version of Linux up and running. But thus far I have very bad Linux karma.

nihili

[PhoenixMDM]

I tried RedHat, but it didn't like my comp. So i'm happy with Mandrake8.
Heh, as soon as i know the basics to linux i'm gonna put it on every box i own.

[AgEnT0140]

I thought it went like this: p1=486 p2=586 p3=686? am i wrong?
I think my p3 was a 686 but i don't rremember, had to switch back to windows for today . The only reason i say this is that i tried 8.0 on my pentium 90mhz and after install when i started it up it said "insert bootable media". Putting FreeBSD on it now cuz i'm using it for a Web/Email server.

[Hack]

Originally posted by AgEnT0140











I thought it went like this: p1=486 p2=586 p3=686? am i wrong?












I think my p3 was a 686 but i don't rremember, had to switch back to windows for today . The only reason i say this is that i tried 8.0 on my pentium 90mhz and after install when i started it up it said "insert bootable media". Putting FreeBSD on it now cuz i'm using it for a Web/Email server.

Oops!! Sounds to me like you didn't get lilo installed properly, and if you came close which it sounds like you did, Lilo couldn't find the kernel image it was trying to load.


















As for the p1 is, p2 is... stuff, here's a rundown. Any pre- PentiumII/Pro/Celeron is a p1, PentiumII/Pro/Celery are all p2, PentiumIII/Celery(coppermine) are p3 , Pentium4 is, you guessed it, p4 ...Now, with that said, anything of type p1 is classed as i586, type p2 and p3 are i686, but don't bet on code optimized for i686's to work on all type p2 cpus though. Ultimately, if it matters, you'll know the difference. As for Athlons and Durons they are type K7, and unless it's video intensive and actually has the 3dNow support in the code, stick to i686 compiler optimizations since the K7's handle MMX fine anyway.
















Hack..

[Hack]

Originally posted by nihili





Actually the problem I'm having on that machine is that Mandrake 8.0 won't correctly identify the NIC. Mandrake 7.2 will, but it has other problems. So today I tried installing it on a different machine, a P120 this time. It couldn't even figure out what the cdrom was. The bios had not trouble, WIN NT had no trouble, but Linux was clueless. This btw is the same model CD that it had coreectly detected on the P133.













I would really like to have a version of Linux up and running. But thus far I have very bad Linux karma.













nihili

I'm guessing here, but I imagine the problem you see with the nic between Mandrake 7.2 and 8 is the kernel versions.. Mandrake 7.2 was based on the 2.2.x kernel and 8.0 is based on the earlier 2.4.x series which was a brute for some nics due to the major changes made in the network driver implementation. Solution : Either figure out how to configure the nic by hand (or is that head ??) If you've got 7.2 still available you should be able to figure out how to get the card setup using the same or similar settings or failing that, try a different distro..









I hear a lot of people having similar types of problems with Mandrake 8.0, and as I keep saying over and over, these problems are due to too much concern for polish and bells and whistles and not enough concern for functional substance.. Sure, a good many people have gotten Mandrake 8.0 up and running without so much as a burp, but for those that have problems, I can't imagine a distro that could be more of a pain in the A$% ..When are people finally gonna get it? Linux IS NOT and never will be Windoze. Rant _off_ ..



With that off of my chest, you ain't got bad karma... You're just at the beginning of the very long and sometimes frustrating learning curve called Linux.. Get used to it. With Linux you have to be prepared to tell "it" what you want it to do unlike some OS's that insist on telling "you" what to do.



Hack.

[nihili]

Originally posted by Hack


I'm guessing here, but I imagine the problem you see with the nic between Mandrake 7.2 and 8 is the kernel versions.. Mandrake 7.2 was based on the 2.2.x kernel and 8.0 is based on the earlier 2.4.x series which was a brute for some nics due to the major changes made in the network driver implementation. Solution : Either figure out how to configure the nic by hand (or is that head ??) If you've got 7.2 still available you should be able to figure out how to get the card setup using the same or similar settings or failing that, try a different distro..

Hack.

I do still have 7.2 available, and it works. So I guess I can put that on and then try to upgrade piecemeal. I've already tried using the parameters from 7.2 on 8.0, either they don't work or i can't figure it out.

As for the kernel... are you saying that 2.2.x is a newer version of the kernel than 2.4.x? I would have guessed the opposite from the numbers. I thought that most distributions tried to use whatever kernel was newest. If that's right, and if you're right about the problem, how would changing distros help? I suppose I can try a different one, any recommendations?

nihili

[parkan]

Originally posted by Hack

That's corect

















Oops!! Sounds to me like you didn't get lilo installed properly, and if you came close which it sounds like you did, Lilo couldn't find the kernel image it was trying to load.














As for the p1 is, p2 is... stuff, here's a rundown. Any pre- PentiumII/Pro/Celeron is a p1, PentiumII/Pro/Celery are all p2, PentiumIII/Celery(coppermine) are p3 , Pentium4 is, you guessed it, p4 ...Now, with that said, anything of type p1 is classed as i586, type p2 and p3 are i686, but don't bet on code optimized for i686's to work on all type p2 cpus though. Ultimately, if it matters, you'll know the difference. As for Athlons and Durons they are type K7, and unless it's video intensive and actually has the 3dNow support in the code, stick to i686 compiler optimizations since the K7's handle MMX fine anyway.












Hack..

[AgEnT0140]

well..... it was just my POS hard drive. Neaded some stupid jumper on it to be master... thats why it wouldn't boot. O well at least i fiqured it out before i threw the computer out the window. i'm installing mandrake 8.0 right now

[Mi6]

NO the BEST for Linux in General is FreeBSD
and for Servers/Webhost is SlackWare i use it. its esy and its Most off all FREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you can get them at
FreeBSD
http://www.freebsd.com
Slackware
http://www.slackware.com/

Have fun any problems DL them post a msg and i will show you how