The cheapest that i've seen the Clawhammer 3200+ was 245 on pricewatch, at the same speed the Newcastle core goes for about 170, thats a 75 dollar diff, how come?? the extra cache is really worth the extra 1/3 rd the price increase? What has your guys expirience been with them? Is it just that the clawhammer is not in production anymore and is getting scars? Or are there performance differneces that are WORTH mentioning? Overclocking abilities better? Seeing how its a mostly a luck of the draw for chips, wouldnt the newcastle be more consistent with better overclocks?
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Why is Clawhammer so much more expensive?
- Thread starter Saruji
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i <3 my CH. the extra cache is like having another 150mhz over a newcastle.
i got it for cheap. 250 with a motherboard on ebay
i got it for cheap. 250 with a motherboard on ebay
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yeah, im shooting for 2.8-3.0ghz with this chip, but i need to do some work first.
anyway i think the cache shows when doing cpu intensive stuff like rendering video and graphics.
anyway i think the cache shows when doing cpu intensive stuff like rendering video and graphics.
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Also, I believe the newcastles overclock better. I have never had a claw, so I can't verify this myself, but I have heard that.
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Thread HIGHJACK NinjaZX6R how does you xbl 2x512 workout in that 754 setup.
As for the clawhammer you need about a 200mhz difference to match the performance with a newcastle so if you can get a claw up to around 2.5 it would be like having a newcastle @ around 2.7.
As for the clawhammer you need about a 200mhz difference to match the performance with a newcastle so if you can get a claw up to around 2.5 it would be like having a newcastle @ around 2.7.
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yep, i got mine with a motherboard for 250 on ebayC_MAC said:
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LOL. The Patriot is working like a champ. Thanks for asking
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another reason for the price difference is the die size.
512kB more L2 cache makes the die bigger and uses more silicon.
this results in less cores produced per wafer (maybe even worse yields because of faults in the L2 cache?) -> more expensive.
afaik:
Newcastle core : 144mm²
Clawhammer core: 193mm²
roughly 34% more silicon needed.
512kB more L2 cache makes the die bigger and uses more silicon.
this results in less cores produced per wafer (maybe even worse yields because of faults in the L2 cache?) -> more expensive.
afaik:
Newcastle core : 144mm²
Clawhammer core: 193mm²
roughly 34% more silicon needed.
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true, here's a pic of my claw-Lifthanger said:
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