nVidia Firewall or Norton Internet Security (or similar)?

LoneWolf121188 · 02-13-05, 07:26 PM

Im thinking of switching to the hardware NVfirewall that come with my nForce 4 and uninstalling Norton so that it will hopefully do its advertised job of saving CPU cycles while keeping my comp secure. Does the firewall really do its job well?

TimoneX · 02-13-05, 07:41 PM

Works fine for me, though I had trouble with one of the MS security updates messing up both firewall and active armor.

LoneWolf121188 · 02-13-05, 07:54 PM

I wonder how your NF3 firewall compares with the NF4...Isnt the NF3 purely software?

TimoneX · 02-13-05, 07:57 PM

Yep that's how I understand it. The nF3 doesn't have active armor. I was referring to the DFI Lanparty UT nF4 Ultra-D that I'm using right now. Haven't updated my sig yet. The nF3 & nF4 firewalls seem to work about the same though, with the exception of active armor of course.

Ultra-D/SLI convert that is.

Mr.Guvernment · 02-13-05, 08:00 PM

mmmm, did nvidia "make" this firewall from scratch or is their a 3rd party company that provided the base for it?

persinally i would not trust a mobo / vid card maker to security - as opposed to a company that does just that for a living.

TimoneX · 02-13-05, 08:23 PM

Seems to work fine. I've done security checks on the nF3 ultra's firewall and it came out 100% clean with the exception of not stealthing all the ports. This was on the default medium security setting though. Ran it that way for a couple months with no problems. The firewall doesn't interfere with LAN trafic the way NIS, Kapersky, and Panda do. There's absolutely no setup required to share my cable connection with the other 4 systems on my Gb LAN. Saves all the hassle of having to configure all the IP ports for LAN games and shared Inet. The software is apache HTTP based. The CPU usage of the nF3 ultra's firewall was virtually non-existant and it's supposed to be even lower on the nF4 though I haven't really checked that out yet.

Mr.Guvernment · 02-14-05, 12:10 PM

^^^ wow, soudns impressive.

Sentential · 02-14-05, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Guvernment

^^^ wow, soudns impressive.

To anwser your question THIS is what replaced Soundstorm. Instead of using the CPU its all done by the SB

TimoneX · 02-14-05, 01:10 PM

I'll have to run some security tests with teh nF4 firewall + AA implementation. Anyone have any preferred sites for this? I'll have to dig up the link to the one I tested the nF3 ultra on.

TimoneX · 02-14-05, 01:29 PM

Oops I said that wrong. The nF3 ultra DID stealth all the ports but failed the ping reply test(ICMP) echo test with default(medium) settings. Running the same tests on the nF4 w/ AA enabled resulted in precisely the same result. This from grc.com(shields up):

Mr.Guvernment · 02-14-05, 03:03 PM

So, how is this intergrated software affected by overclocking ? or is it not at all...

TimoneX · 02-14-05, 03:40 PM

Doesn't seem to be affected at all by HT speeds. I tested the Neo2 up to 325, though briefly, and it was fine. I booted the Ultra-D at 350x6 and the LAN connection and firewall seemed to function fine. I've seen some guys complaining about the latest ethernet driver, the one in 6.39, but it hasn't given me any trouble.

It's a hardware & software solution as I understand it. I noticed there's a Vitesse chip parked between the s939 & the LAN ports on the DFI nF4s, I don't believe this chip is on the nF3 ultra. I presume it has something to do with the firewall/AA. I'll have to read up on this more.

02-13-05, 07:26 PM	Thread Starter #1
LoneWolf121188 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sheppard Air Force Base, TX	nVidia Firewall or Norton Internet Security (or similar)? Im thinking of switching to the hardware NVfirewall that come with my nForce 4 and uninstalling Norton so that it will hopefully do its advertised job of saving CPU cycles while keeping my comp secure. Does the firewall really do its job well? __________________ mATX Desktop (Build Log Here): Core i7 3770K @ 4.9GHz 1.53V, 16GB DDR3-1600 RipjawX, EVGA GTX680 4GB, Intel 520 240GB, Seagate 2TB, EK CPU and GPU waterblocks, MCP35X, 120.1 and 180.1 radiators 15" MacBook Pro: 2.66GHz Core i7 620M, 8GB DDR3, OCZ Vertex 2 120GB, 500GB Seagate 7200.4, GeForce 330M 512MB, OS X 10.8.2, Windows 7 x64 Asus Eee Slate EP121: 1.33GHz Core i5 470UM, 4GB DDR3, Intel 320 80GB, Windows 8 x64 The Hardware Destruction Thread\|OCForums Musicians Club Member -12\|OCForums Metal Club Member -12 Well, if he opens the box and its dead, then it would be his fault because the state of the cat is determined by the observer. Then we could be all ‘n00b, you collapsed the wavefunction now! - RoadWarrior, on Schrödinger’s Cat
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02-13-05, 07:41 PM	#2
TimoneX Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Works fine for me, though I had trouble with one of the MS security updates messing up both firewall and active armor. __________________ Giga UD3Rv2 - i7 970 - 4x4GB DDR3 - MSI 6950-6970 - Adaptec 3085 - 2x64GB M4 SSD R0 - 4x1TB Sammy F3 - DD TDX - Ultra X3 800 Heat under TimoneX - Bitcoin 1Hfp99tugY4H5FYEoM3hj4JDLzShzZ9ifB
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02-13-05, 07:54 PM	Thread Starter #3
LoneWolf121188 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sheppard Air Force Base, TX	I wonder how your NF3 firewall compares with the NF4...Isnt the NF3 purely software? __________________ mATX Desktop (Build Log Here): Core i7 3770K @ 4.9GHz 1.53V, 16GB DDR3-1600 RipjawX, EVGA GTX680 4GB, Intel 520 240GB, Seagate 2TB, EK CPU and GPU waterblocks, MCP35X, 120.1 and 180.1 radiators 15" MacBook Pro: 2.66GHz Core i7 620M, 8GB DDR3, OCZ Vertex 2 120GB, 500GB Seagate 7200.4, GeForce 330M 512MB, OS X 10.8.2, Windows 7 x64 Asus Eee Slate EP121: 1.33GHz Core i5 470UM, 4GB DDR3, Intel 320 80GB, Windows 8 x64 The Hardware Destruction Thread\|OCForums Musicians Club Member -12\|OCForums Metal Club Member -12 Well, if he opens the box and its dead, then it would be his fault because the state of the cat is determined by the observer. Then we could be all ‘n00b, you collapsed the wavefunction now! - RoadWarrior, on Schrödinger’s Cat
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02-13-05, 07:57 PM	#4
TimoneX Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Yep that's how I understand it. The nF3 doesn't have active armor. I was referring to the DFI Lanparty UT nF4 Ultra-D that I'm using right now. Haven't updated my sig yet. The nF3 & nF4 firewalls seem to work about the same though, with the exception of active armor of course. Ultra-D/SLI convert that is. __________________ Giga UD3Rv2 - i7 970 - 4x4GB DDR3 - MSI 6950-6970 - Adaptec 3085 - 2x64GB M4 SSD R0 - 4x1TB Sammy F3 - DD TDX - Ultra X3 800 Heat under TimoneX - Bitcoin 1Hfp99tugY4H5FYEoM3hj4JDLzShzZ9ifB
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02-13-05, 08:00 PM	#5
Mr.Guvernment Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Costa Rica - and toronto sometimes	mmmm, did nvidia "make" this firewall from scratch or is their a 3rd party company that provided the base for it? persinally i would not trust a mobo / vid card maker to security - as opposed to a company that does just that for a living. __________________ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© The trouble with life is there’s no background music ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Life isnt short, you're just dead for too long©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ADD YOUR STEAM ID TO THE LIST FOR HOURS OF FUN!
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02-13-05, 08:23 PM	#6
TimoneX Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Seems to work fine. I've done security checks on the nF3 ultra's firewall and it came out 100% clean with the exception of not stealthing all the ports. This was on the default medium security setting though. Ran it that way for a couple months with no problems. The firewall doesn't interfere with LAN trafic the way NIS, Kapersky, and Panda do. There's absolutely no setup required to share my cable connection with the other 4 systems on my Gb LAN. Saves all the hassle of having to configure all the IP ports for LAN games and shared Inet. The software is apache HTTP based. The CPU usage of the nF3 ultra's firewall was virtually non-existant and it's supposed to be even lower on the nF4 though I haven't really checked that out yet. __________________ Giga UD3Rv2 - i7 970 - 4x4GB DDR3 - MSI 6950-6970 - Adaptec 3085 - 2x64GB M4 SSD R0 - 4x1TB Sammy F3 - DD TDX - Ultra X3 800 Heat under TimoneX - Bitcoin 1Hfp99tugY4H5FYEoM3hj4JDLzShzZ9ifB
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02-14-05, 12:10 PM	#7
Mr.Guvernment Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Costa Rica - and toronto sometimes	^^^ wow, soudns impressive. __________________ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© The trouble with life is there’s no background music ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Life isnt short, you're just dead for too long©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ADD YOUR STEAM ID TO THE LIST FOR HOURS OF FUN!
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02-14-05, 01:10 PM	#9
TimoneX Member Join Date: Jun 2002	I'll have to run some security tests with teh nF4 firewall + AA implementation. Anyone have any preferred sites for this? I'll have to dig up the link to the one I tested the nF3 ultra on. __________________ Giga UD3Rv2 - i7 970 - 4x4GB DDR3 - MSI 6950-6970 - Adaptec 3085 - 2x64GB M4 SSD R0 - 4x1TB Sammy F3 - DD TDX - Ultra X3 800 Heat under TimoneX - Bitcoin 1Hfp99tugY4H5FYEoM3hj4JDLzShzZ9ifB
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02-14-05, 01:29 PM	#10
TimoneX Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Oops I said that wrong. The nF3 ultra DID stealth all the ports but failed the ping reply test(ICMP) echo test with default(medium) settings. Running the same tests on the nF4 w/ AA enabled resulted in precisely the same result. This from grc.com(shields up): Attached Images __________________ Giga UD3Rv2 - i7 970 - 4x4GB DDR3 - MSI 6950-6970 - Adaptec 3085 - 2x64GB M4 SSD R0 - 4x1TB Sammy F3 - DD TDX - Ultra X3 800 Heat under TimoneX - Bitcoin 1Hfp99tugY4H5FYEoM3hj4JDLzShzZ9ifB
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02-14-05, 03:03 PM	#11
Mr.Guvernment Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Costa Rica - and toronto sometimes	So, how is this intergrated software affected by overclocking ? or is it not at all... __________________ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© The trouble with life is there’s no background music ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Life isnt short, you're just dead for too long©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ADD YOUR STEAM ID TO THE LIST FOR HOURS OF FUN!
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02-14-05, 03:40 PM	#12
TimoneX Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Doesn't seem to be affected at all by HT speeds. I tested the Neo2 up to 325, though briefly, and it was fine. I booted the Ultra-D at 350x6 and the LAN connection and firewall seemed to function fine. I've seen some guys complaining about the latest ethernet driver, the one in 6.39, but it hasn't given me any trouble. It's a hardware & software solution as I understand it. I noticed there's a Vitesse chip parked between the s939 & the LAN ports on the DFI nF4s, I don't believe this chip is on the nF3 ultra. I presume it has something to do with the firewall/AA. I'll have to read up on this more. __________________ Giga UD3Rv2 - i7 970 - 4x4GB DDR3 - MSI 6950-6970 - Adaptec 3085 - 2x64GB M4 SSD R0 - 4x1TB Sammy F3 - DD TDX - Ultra X3 800 Heat under TimoneX - Bitcoin 1Hfp99tugY4H5FYEoM3hj4JDLzShzZ9ifB
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