Apple you make my blood boil

NO LIFE · 02-21-05, 12:40 AM

So a friend tries to send me a video to watch. And of course it is .mov, so I have to download quicktime on my freshly formatted computer

I go to apple.com to get it and find out the ONLY possible way to get the damn codec to play a .mov file is if I also install iTunes. In my opinion that is criminal. If I dont want to install stupid iTunes I should not be forced to.

So as of now I am boycotting apple. I have always hated them and always will because they do crap like this all the time. I have had enough. The only thing I have ever gotten from them is a GIANT pain in the rear end.

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Captain Newbie · 02-21-05, 12:42 AM

See also Microsoft's actions with Imploder.

9mmCensor · 02-21-05, 12:44 AM

Less rant, more google.
http://www.soft32.com/download_300.html

NO LIFE · 02-21-05, 01:00 AM

no more quicktime for me. dont show me quicktime alternative either.

dark_15 · 02-21-05, 08:01 AM

Ummm... maybe you weren't looking hard enough...

On the Quicktime Downloads page... right underneath language, there a 3 links. Click the 3rd link which says "Quicktime Standalone Installer".

If you still cannot find it... click here. You gotta know what you're looking for sometimes

>HyperlogiK< · 02-21-05, 08:34 AM

Quicktime? Realplayer? Pah stupid software, get the Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative codecs http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...lternative.cfm
they use media player 6 for no hassle no bloatware Real & Quicktime playback and are much better than the 'real thing'

Eclypsyr · 02-21-05, 08:42 AM

Really...can't you just install the codec and play it from wmp?

//Edit: Hate to break it to you, but you boycotting their free software isn't going to do much good.

threeme2189 · 02-21-05, 09:37 AM

i saw the three options too...you dont have to get Itunes in order to install kwiktime...look at the page more carefully dude...

Xenocide · 02-21-05, 09:39 AM

you don't have to install itunes to play a .mov, only quicktime. you didn't look well enough, it has an option install a package with or without itunes

NO LIFE · 02-21-05, 01:20 PM

did anyone try to download the standalone? The link does not work. At least it does not work for me.

And quicktime alternative has never worked. I dont trust it either. 19megs for a single codec?? You wish. I will pass thank you.

zip22 · 02-21-05, 01:26 PM

standalone link works fine for me. if the auto download doesnt work, theres a link below that goes right to the exe.

i like how with quicktime you can open multiple videos at once. it also seems more streamlined than wmp. opening mp3s and movies inside a browser window are also nice.

NO LIFE · 02-21-05, 01:37 PM

wheres the link that goes right to the exe?? All I see is a period.

tenchi86 · 02-21-05, 02:46 PM

There is most likly a converter with atleast a free trial. Look for like .mov to .mpeg or something

BeerCan · 02-21-05, 02:50 PM

http://appldnld.m7z.net/qtinstall.in...lInstaller.exe

tom10167 · 02-21-05, 03:53 PM

MOV sucks, it just does. I really can't stand that we have 14,000 billion different forms of video. I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with MPG and AVI?? I don't download videos in MOV format, or RL(or whatever RealPlayer uses) I don't have either of those programs and I'm not going to get them. If you can't rip a video to MPG or AVI then you should expect to not have anyone watch it. I'm going to make my own video program with my own stupid format just so everybody has to try and find the codec after they download a video my idiotic format. And then, when nobody can find it they'll create forums, which will eat bandwidth.

I think this may have been my most rantingist post evAr. But I'm so right, and I know everybody agrees, unless they work for Apple or something.

*rises with NO LIFE and destroys Quicktime*

zip22 · 02-21-05, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NO LIFE

wheres the link that goes right to the exe?? All I see is a period.

hmm in firefox, there is just a period. in IE the period is the link.

NO LIFE · 02-21-05, 04:46 PM

I pretty much wish apple would die along with all of its other crap. The same goes for Real.

Yes, I am an ignorant dedicated Apple hater

tom10167 · 02-21-05, 04:51 PM

I don't hate Apple per se, I hate anyone that creates a whole new format(not even talking about computers) that just makes everything more difficult. Customary(opposed to metric) measuring system, ten million movie formats. Shoe sizes that don't even have a median(!!!) the list goes on and on. The Ipod is awesome, and so are their mega LCD monitors.

eab · 02-21-05, 09:26 PM

All I know is that I installed itunes when I installed quicktime and don't regret it at all. itunes is the BEST music player out there hands down. Beats Windows media player 10, beats winamp, beats dbaudio player, beats music match, beats real player. Only thing it can't rip mp3s. But that is what windows media player is for, also movies. Windows media player is to bloated to be used as a music player.

zip22 · 02-22-05, 08:50 AM

what do you mean it cant rip mp3s?

edit > preferences > importing

"import using AAC, AIFF, Apple lossless, MP3, WAV"
then theres bitrate options, etc

02-21-05, 12:40 AM	Thread Starter #1
NO LIFE Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MT	Apple you make my blood boil So a friend tries to send me a video to watch. And of course it is .mov, so I have to download quicktime on my freshly formatted computer I go to apple.com to get it and find out the ONLY possible way to get the damn codec to play a .mov file is if I also install iTunes. In my opinion that is criminal. If I dont want to install stupid iTunes I should not be forced to. So as of now I am boycotting apple. I have always hated them and always will because they do crap like this all the time. I have had enough. The only thing I have ever gotten from them is a GIANT pain in the rear end. /rant __________________ Rampage III Extreme Xenon W3520 (i7-920 D0) @ 3.8ghz, stocks volts 3x2gig g.skill 2000mhz sticks @ 1850mhz 8-8-8-24 1.64v 128gig OCZ Agility SSD GTX470s in SLI DD gpu blocks, corsair h80, EK full MB block, EK radiators, XPSC bay res/pump
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02-21-05, 01:00 AM	Thread Starter #4
NO LIFE Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MT	no more quicktime for me. dont show me quicktime alternative either. __________________ Rampage III Extreme Xenon W3520 (i7-920 D0) @ 3.8ghz, stocks volts 3x2gig g.skill 2000mhz sticks @ 1850mhz 8-8-8-24 1.64v 128gig OCZ Agility SSD GTX470s in SLI DD gpu blocks, corsair h80, EK full MB block, EK radiators, XPSC bay res/pump
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>HyperlogiK< Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sword Base	Quicktime? Realplayer? Pah stupid software, get the Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative codecs http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...lternative.cfm they use media player 6 for no hassle no bloatware Real & Quicktime playback and are much better than the 'real thing' __________________ The Last Gonzo of Scotland. Core i7 950 @ 4Ghz, Gigabyte x58-USB3, Radeon 6870 CF, Xonar D2X, 12GB Kingston HyperX 1600, Bigfoot 2100, Agility 3 120GB, 3x 2TB Spinpoint F4, Corsair HX1000w, Cambridge Audio A500 and Acoustic Research speakers (Main PC) Alienware M11x, C2D SU 7300, Geforce 335M, Corsair Force 40GB (Laptop) Opteron 175, DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra D, Radeon x850 XT PE, 4GB BH-5, OCZ Petrol 64GB, X-Fi Xtreme Music, 2x TerraTec PHASE 22, Enermax Liberty ELT500, Yamaha A-S300 and Mordaunt Short Aviano speakers (Music PC) Pentium D 920, Gigabyte 965P-S3, Geforce 210, 2GB Elpida DDR2, TerraTec PHASE 22, ASUS DVB-T (HTPC) Dual P3 866Mhz, Intel 440LX Board, 1.8GB PC133Mhz, 2x Voodoo 2 12MB, Turtle Beach FIJI (Retro Gaming Machine) Heatware
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02-21-05, 08:42 AM	#7
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02-21-05, 09:37 AM	#8
threeme2189 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Drowning my sorrow and misery in apple juice	i saw the three options too...you dont have to get Itunes in order to install kwiktime...look at the page more carefully dude... __________________ My Rig: HOT Athlon XP 2600 T-Bred :: GA-7M400M Gigabyte Mobo Asus 9600XT OC from 500/300@580/360 stock! :: 512 MB 333Mhz Spektek Ram Crappy 80 Gig HDD :: Sony CD Burner/dvd drive + CD drive If You'll Excuse Me, I Have A Beam Of Light To Catch.
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02-21-05, 09:39 AM	#9
Xenocide Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC	you don't have to install itunes to play a .mov, only quicktime. you didn't look well enough, it has an option install a package with or without itunes __________________ A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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02-21-05, 01:20 PM	Thread Starter #10
NO LIFE Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MT	did anyone try to download the standalone? The link does not work. At least it does not work for me. And quicktime alternative has never worked. I dont trust it either. 19megs for a single codec?? You wish. I will pass thank you. __________________ Rampage III Extreme Xenon W3520 (i7-920 D0) @ 3.8ghz, stocks volts 3x2gig g.skill 2000mhz sticks @ 1850mhz 8-8-8-24 1.64v 128gig OCZ Agility SSD GTX470s in SLI DD gpu blocks, corsair h80, EK full MB block, EK radiators, XPSC bay res/pump
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02-21-05, 01:26 PM	#11
zip22 Member Join Date: Nov 2003	standalone link works fine for me. if the auto download doesnt work, theres a link below that goes right to the exe. i like how with quicktime you can open multiple videos at once. it also seems more streamlined than wmp. opening mp3s and movies inside a browser window are also nice.
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02-21-05, 01:37 PM	Thread Starter #12
NO LIFE Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MT	wheres the link that goes right to the exe?? All I see is a period. __________________ Rampage III Extreme Xenon W3520 (i7-920 D0) @ 3.8ghz, stocks volts 3x2gig g.skill 2000mhz sticks @ 1850mhz 8-8-8-24 1.64v 128gig OCZ Agility SSD GTX470s in SLI DD gpu blocks, corsair h80, EK full MB block, EK radiators, XPSC bay res/pump
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02-21-05, 02:46 PM	#13
tenchi86 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Smoky Mountains, NC	There is most likly a converter with atleast a free trial. Look for like .mov to .mpeg or something __________________ "Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why." -Bernard Mannes Baruch Mobo: MSI Neo2-V CPU: 2.8a Prescott @ 3.2 PSU: Blue Storm 500 Watt GPU: Geforce 6600GT HS: Zalman 7000 Ram: Kingston HyperX 1024mb 3200
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02-21-05, 02:50 PM	#14
BeerCan Member Join Date: Dec 2004	http://appldnld.m7z.net/qtinstall.in...lInstaller.exe
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02-21-05, 03:53 PM	#15
tom10167 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix. YOUR HAIR IS GOOD TO EAT	MOV sucks, it just does. I really can't stand that we have 14,000 billion different forms of video. I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with MPG and AVI?? I don't download videos in MOV format, or RL(or whatever RealPlayer uses) I don't have either of those programs and I'm not going to get them. If you can't rip a video to MPG or AVI then you should expect to not have anyone watch it. I'm going to make my own video program with my own stupid format just so everybody has to try and find the codec after they download a video my idiotic format. And then, when nobody can find it they'll create forums, which will eat bandwidth. I think this may have been my most rantingist post evAr. But I'm so right, and I know everybody agrees, unless they work for Apple or something. rises with NO LIFE and destroys Quicktime __________________ I7 920/4890/Raid0 x-25m/ 3008wfp + 23" lcd/blah/blah/blah It's 2010 I think we can definitely* remove all 56k warnings from thread titles* Please stop saying fleabay, worst buy, etc. :)
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02-21-05, 04:46 PM	Thread Starter #17
NO LIFE Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MT	I pretty much wish apple would die along with all of its other crap. The same goes for Real. Yes, I am an ignorant dedicated Apple hater __________________ Rampage III Extreme Xenon W3520 (i7-920 D0) @ 3.8ghz, stocks volts 3x2gig g.skill 2000mhz sticks @ 1850mhz 8-8-8-24 1.64v 128gig OCZ Agility SSD GTX470s in SLI DD gpu blocks, corsair h80, EK full MB block, EK radiators, XPSC bay res/pump
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02-21-05, 04:51 PM	#18
tom10167 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix. YOUR HAIR IS GOOD TO EAT	I don't hate Apple per se, I hate anyone that creates a whole new format(not even talking about computers) that just makes everything more difficult. Customary(opposed to metric) measuring system, ten million movie formats. Shoe sizes that don't even have a median(!!!) the list goes on and on. The Ipod is awesome, and so are their mega LCD monitors. __________________ I7 920/4890/Raid0 x-25m/ 3008wfp + 23" lcd/blah/blah/blah It's 2010 I think we can definitely* remove all 56k warnings from thread titles* Please stop saying fleabay, worst buy, etc. :)
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02-21-05, 09:26 PM	#19
eab Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houghton MI, MTU, up in the UP eh!	All I know is that I installed itunes when I installed quicktime and don't regret it at all. itunes is the BEST music player out there hands down. Beats Windows media player 10, beats winamp, beats dbaudio player, beats music match, beats real player. Only thing it can't rip mp3s. But that is what windows media player is for, also movies. Windows media player is to bloated to be used as a music player.
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02-22-05, 08:50 AM	#20
zip22 Member Join Date: Nov 2003	what do you mean it cant rip mp3s? edit > preferences > importing "import using AAC, AIFF, Apple lossless, MP3, WAV" then theres bitrate options, etc Last edited by zip22; 02-22-05 at 04:37 PM.
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