good lower end card

dx 8 is fine .. need a cheep but good performer..

ti4400 or a ti4600 would be good

Ultra.DR said:

dx 8 is fine .. need a cheep but good performer..

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How cheap?

under a 100$ cheap!

If your looking for a good dx8 card < $100 the Ti series cards are still great performers. As another poster said

or a 9600PRO / NP

no, if it is dx 9 has to be the 9500 they go for about £25 on ebay, about ti4400 power, dx 9 and many softmod to 9700 so you can get ti4600 power out of them

The only 9500s that mod to 9700s are 256-bit ones (L-shape memory layout.) The 128-bit cards may mod to 9500 Pro. Excelent cards, either way. A bought a 9500 to try to mod to 9700 back when I had a 9500 Pro. Unfortunatly, it was 128-bit, and didn't softmod to 9500 Pro without checkerboarding. I sold it to a friend. The 9500 Pro served me well, I think I was getting 16000 3DMarks with a Barton 2500+. I'd take a 9500 series over 9600 any day (even if it were a 9600 XT.)

I haven't had any experience with GeForce4 Ti cards, though.