Guide to the 7v Fan Mod

doom0 · 11-01-06, 01:30 PM

i have one inside my case as an intake @12v. and its near silent.
i want to see it perform @24v tho.

Vento1 · 05-07-07, 03:26 PM

Just performed the 7v mod on a tornado fan what a difference i can still here the fan but it does'nt hurt my ears now.

Zoris · 05-27-07, 11:54 PM

I just did this and it worked!

I guess this is my first real mod. lol.

Oc1Kenube · 06-16-07, 08:29 AM

Just used this on a delta screamer 80mm fan that was ear pericingly loud,it is still audible now but bearable.

Many thanks

jimmsch · 06-16-07, 10:20 AM

I have these pics of the different voltage wirings printed and tacked to the wall in my garage where I do all my PC building/testing/money wasting stuff. Great guide!!

Oc1Kenube · 06-16-07, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmsch

I have these pics of the different voltage wirings printed and tacked to the wall in my garage where I do all my PC building/testing/money wasting stuff. Great guide!!

Could you post me a 5v mod please delta is still a tad too loud

nd4spdbh2 · 06-17-07, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oc1Kenube

Could you post me a 5v mod please delta is still a tad too loud

its very simple... take the 5v (red) line off the psu and put it to the + on the fan, then the - on the fan to a black or ground on the psu.

Oc1Kenube · 06-18-07, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nd4spdbh2

its very simple... take the 5v (red) line off the psu and put it to the + on the fan, then the - on the fan to a black or ground on the psu.

Confused. im using a pass through molex to molex mod like shown in the picture on page 1

SkuToV · 12-26-07, 06:55 AM

What I did to mod the voltage on my 120mm fan on my case was I cut the plug so it fitted onto the molex the other way round so it's now running off 5v. works just as well as whats described above but its a helluvalot simpler

bardos · 02-12-08, 04:25 AM

question: i'm using a 120mm fan that at 12v is rated at 69 cfm and 36dba. I've tested it at 7volts and it is of course noticeably slower and quieter. is there some formula to let me know what cfm i could expect at this voltage (and dba)?

markp1989 · 06-30-08, 11:59 AM

I have a PicoPSU-120, running my fan at 5v, would it be smart with that PSU to run the fan at 7v, or could that cause problems?

Thanks Markp1989

I just ordered these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Molex-Power-...d=p3286.c0.m14
so i can connect the fans to the 5v without damaging the metal pins like i did with the one i have now

Foolios · 11-22-09, 04:10 PM

How is it that you can have one wire going to +12v and one wire to +5V and get 7v? Why do these take away instead of adding up?
And how is it that when you switch the black ground wire away from the ground and into the 5v that this works at all now that the ground is no longer there?
It would seem to me that the two voltages would buck and burn things out if this was to work at all. This is DC so I would think that since everything is going one way that it wouldnt work.

What gives?

eobard · 11-22-09, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolios

How is it that you can have one wire going to +12v and one wire to +5V and get 7v? Why do these take away instead of adding up?
And how is it that when you switch the black ground wire away from the ground and into the 5v that this works at all now that the ground is no longer there?
It would seem to me that the two voltages would buck and burn things out if this was to work at all. This is DC so I would think that since everything is going one way that it wouldnt work.

What gives?

It's not going one way. The 12v is pushing in one "direction" if you will, and the 5v is pushing in the opposite direction. So the first 5v of the 12v line are canceled out leaving only 7v remaining. Now that is in no way what I would consider an accurate technical explanation, but it does make the point in an easy to understand manner.

Foolios · 11-22-09, 06:02 PM

Thank you for trying to explain it.

But where is the ground? I don't understand how this completes the circuit without a ground.
I am wondering how it is possible to use a wire to output voltage and current and yet still perform the job of a return.

Very interesting stuff!

MattNo5ss · 11-22-09, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolios

Thank you for trying to explain it.

But where is the ground? I don't understand how this completes the circuit without a ground.
I am wondering how it is possible to use a wire to output voltage and current and yet still perform the job of a return.

Very interesting stuff!

The 5v wire is the "ground" with the left over 7v running through it to complete the circuit.

I used the 3.3v wire as a "ground" to mod my Panaflo to run at 8.7v (12v-3.3v=8.7v).

noxqzs · 11-22-09, 09:00 PM

When you think of voltage, you must think in terms of difference in potential energy. Voltage is a difference between two points. A simple example could be a ball at the top of a hill. The higher up on the hill, the bigger its potential energy. If you took 4 3v LEDs and wired them in series powered by a 12v source. The measured voltage between each led would be 3v.

Foolios · 11-24-09, 08:53 PM

Saying that there is difference in potential makes sense in a way to me. There are two wires to complete a circuit.

But the part I can not get around is that this method does not appear to include a positive and negative side.

I can almost imagine this working with a/c because I know that current can travel in two directions with a/c. But in a/c I don't believe this would be the case as if one were to do this with a/c, I believe the two voltages would buck.

But in d/c don't we need the difference to be between a positive and negative, the negative supplying the electrons(current) to the positive side?
I am imagining a circuit that is being created with this mod having two positive sides and no negative.

Ooooohhhh, wait a minute.. You are saying that because one side is lower in voltage than the other that it will give up electrons to a higher voltage source? So, a positive with only 5v will now act as a negative and give up electrons to the side with 12v? The 12v has a stronger attraction and wins over?

Whoaaaa!!!!!!!!

Foolios · 12-08-09, 07:02 PM

EDIT:
Works with 3 fans at 7v on the same cable.

What about cables that have other devices like hdd's on them, can this mod be used on those just at the point of the fan connection or will it cause power problems along the rest of the cable?

Foolios · 12-08-09, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeith

this is an easy way to do it yes, but if somone has a bit of knowledge in electronics you can easily set up a NE555 timer as a PWM modulator with a transistor and controll your fan speeds very acurately. If anyone is interested let me know and ill post the information. PWM (pulse width modulation) is very acurate and can run a fans speed slower than a voltage modification, because the PWM controller runs the fan at its desired voltage the fan will start at very low speeds.

I would love to see this.

Rockfellah · 02-05-10, 02:20 AM

Nice guide, trying now.

11-01-06, 01:30 PM	#61
doom0 Registered Join Date: Oct 2006	i have one inside my case as an intake @12v. and its near silent. i want to see it perform @24v tho.
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05-07-07, 03:26 PM	#62
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05-27-07, 11:54 PM	#63
Zoris Member Join Date: May 2007	I just did this and it worked! I guess this is my first real mod. lol.
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12-26-07, 06:55 AM	#69
SkuToV Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Drunken Stupor, UK	What I did to mod the voltage on my 120mm fan on my case was I cut the plug so it fitted onto the molex the other way round so it's now running off 5v. works just as well as whats described above but its a helluvalot simpler __________________ "Immortality notwithstanding, I'm not going to live forever, you know." - o "...how could I not have problems?" - rainless "they sell games in stores? " - lordkosc
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02-12-08, 04:25 AM	#70
bardos Member Join Date: Sep 2002	question: i'm using a 120mm fan that at 12v is rated at 69 cfm and 36dba. I've tested it at 7volts and it is of course noticeably slower and quieter. is there some formula to let me know what cfm i could expect at this voltage (and dba)? __________________ Motherboard: gigabyte p35 d3sl CPU: q6600 RAM: 4gb OCZ reaper Graphic Card: radeon 6750 HDs: Intel 330 60gb ssd, 1tb samsung 103SJ, 500gb wd,
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06-30-08, 11:59 AM	#71
markp1989 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London	I have a PicoPSU-120, running my fan at 5v, would it be smart with that PSU to run the fan at 7v, or could that cause problems? Thanks Markp1989 I just ordered these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Molex-Power-...d=p3286.c0.m14 so i can connect the fans to the 5v without damaging the metal pins like i did with the one i have now Last edited by markp1989; 06-30-08 at 04:15 PM.
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11-22-09, 04:10 PM	#72
Foolios Member Join Date: May 2006	How is it that you can have one wire going to +12v and one wire to +5V and get 7v? Why do these take away instead of adding up? And how is it that when you switch the black ground wire away from the ground and into the 5v that this works at all now that the ground is no longer there? It would seem to me that the two voltages would buck and burn things out if this was to work at all. This is DC so I would think that since everything is going one way that it wouldnt work. What gives?
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11-22-09, 06:02 PM	#74
Foolios Member Join Date: May 2006	Thank you for trying to explain it. But where is the ground? I don't understand how this completes the circuit without a ground. I am wondering how it is possible to use a wire to output voltage and current and yet still perform the job of a return. Very interesting stuff!
	QUOTE Thanks

11-22-09, 09:00 PM	#76
noxqzs Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Boston, MA	When you think of voltage, you must think in terms of difference in potential energy. Voltage is a difference between two points. A simple example could be a ball at the top of a hill. The higher up on the hill, the bigger its potential energy. If you took 4 3v LEDs and wired them in series powered by a 12v source. The measured voltage between each led would be 3v. __________________ ___________________________________________ I7 980x, R3E, HX1000, Corsair 6x2GB, Areca 1880i, Corsair GT240, 4xF120, 680GTX, 3007fpw-HC
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11-24-09, 08:53 PM	#77
Foolios Member Join Date: May 2006	Saying that there is difference in potential makes sense in a way to me. There are two wires to complete a circuit. But the part I can not get around is that this method does not appear to include a positive and negative side. I can almost imagine this working with a/c because I know that current can travel in two directions with a/c. But in a/c I don't believe this would be the case as if one were to do this with a/c, I believe the two voltages would buck. But in d/c don't we need the difference to be between a positive and negative, the negative supplying the electrons(current) to the positive side? I am imagining a circuit that is being created with this mod having two positive sides and no negative. Ooooohhhh, wait a minute.. You are saying that because one side is lower in voltage than the other that it will give up electrons to a higher voltage source? So, a positive with only 5v will now act as a negative and give up electrons to the side with 12v? The 12v has a stronger attraction and wins over? Whoaaaa!!!!!!!!
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12-08-09, 07:02 PM	#78
Foolios Member Join Date: May 2006	EDIT: Works with 3 fans at 7v on the same cable. What about cables that have other devices like hdd's on them, can this mod be used on those just at the point of the fan connection or will it cause power problems along the rest of the cable? Last edited by Foolios; 12-08-09 at 08:19 PM.
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02-05-10, 02:20 AM	#80
Rockfellah New Member Join Date: Feb 2010	Nice guide, trying now.
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