Webpage Authoring

Tacoman667 · 04-12-05, 07:44 PM

I have so far studied VB, C++, BASIC, and a little bit of JAVA.

I would like to create a webpage for my friend's club at college but am not sure where to begin. I have very little HTML knowledge but it is simple enough to learn all of the tags or at least keep a cheat sheet nearby when I need it.

I was wondering if JAVA would be good to spice up the page. I know there is JavaScript, but doesn't that derive from JAVA?

Where should I begin, all advice would be wonderful. I love projects like this where there is real-world application to what I learn in a book.

TIA.

Superjed · 04-12-05, 08:26 PM

php is another option...

Tacoman667 · 04-12-05, 08:36 PM

PHP for non-chat webpage?

Superjed · 04-12-05, 08:42 PM

yea, templates, css, ect.

seadave77 · 04-12-05, 09:06 PM

JavaScript and Java are totally diffrent languages.
There are many uses for PHP.
If you're learning it anyway, might as well learn CSS and XHTML valid code.

This site shows the power of CSS: http://csszengarden.com/
Many tutorials: http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp
Good info here: http://www.sitepoint.com/

Tacoman667 · 04-13-05, 10:20 AM

can i make a webpage out of pure JAVA or PHP? Or will I still need an HTML editor? I will build a basic page and then edit and add onto it with flash and whatnot later.

Flamed_Chip · 04-13-05, 10:58 AM

You'll still need to use HTML. "Pages" that are written in php and java are actually just programs that run on the server and output HTML to the client's browser. You'll still need to know HTML to write pages in php and java (JSP). You can also embed java applets into HTML pages that are downloaded and run on the clients machine not the server.

Tacoman667 · 04-13-05, 11:08 AM

Would those embeded applets be Java or JavaScript? They seem the same but as I read more they are very different. Right?

Flamed_Chip · 04-13-05, 12:19 PM

Java and Javascript are different. You can use java for writing JSP and applets, but javascript is embedded into HTML to add functionality to pages. The syntax has differences and javascript is executed within the browser not using the Java Virtual Machine plugin like with an applet.

macklin01 · 04-14-05, 06:32 PM

I'd definitely start with simple (but compliant) HTML and CSS first. Start with just HTML to learn the basics of the tags first (<head>, <body>, <a href=>, etc.) Then use CSS to spice it up and do pretty formatting. Then add in things like java/php to spice it up.

The nice thing about knowing it from the ground up is that you can easily write/modify webpages on the go over ssh terminal connections to the server. Very nice for making a quick update or throwing up a new page in little time on an existing site. -- Paul

04-12-05, 07:44 PM	Thread Starter #1
Tacoman667 Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kingwood, TX	Webpage Authoring I have so far studied VB, C++, BASIC, and a little bit of JAVA. I would like to create a webpage for my friend's club at college but am not sure where to begin. I have very little HTML knowledge but it is simple enough to learn all of the tags or at least keep a cheat sheet nearby when I need it. I was wondering if JAVA would be good to spice up the page. I know there is JavaScript, but doesn't that derive from JAVA? Where should I begin, all advice would be wonderful. I love projects like this where there is real-world application to what I learn in a book. TIA. __________________ Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?" Who was the first person to say "See that chicken there....I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes out of it's butt." A64 3200+ DFI LanParty UT NF3 250GB 1024meg 2x512meg Kingston HyperX ATI 9800 PRO 128meg 2x80gig Maxtor SATA RAID0
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04-12-05, 08:36 PM	Thread Starter #3
Tacoman667 Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kingwood, TX	PHP for non-chat webpage? __________________ Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?" Who was the first person to say "See that chicken there....I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes out of it's butt." A64 3200+ DFI LanParty UT NF3 250GB 1024meg 2x512meg Kingston HyperX ATI 9800 PRO 128meg 2x80gig Maxtor SATA RAID0
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04-12-05, 08:42 PM	#4
Superjed Member Join Date: Mar 2005	yea, templates, css, ect. __________________ AMD Phenom 9850BE 3Ghz (200x15) 1.36v - Still testing... OCZ Reaper HPC (2x2GB) 533Mhz 5-5-5-15 2.05v ASRock AOD790GX/128M XFX 8800GT 512MB
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04-12-05, 09:06 PM	#5
seadave77 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Newnan, GA	JavaScript and Java are totally diffrent languages. There are many uses for PHP. If you're learning it anyway, might as well learn CSS and XHTML valid code. This site shows the power of CSS: http://csszengarden.com/ Many tutorials: http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp Good info here: http://www.sitepoint.com/
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04-13-05, 10:20 AM	Thread Starter #6
Tacoman667 Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kingwood, TX	can i make a webpage out of pure JAVA or PHP? Or will I still need an HTML editor? I will build a basic page and then edit and add onto it with flash and whatnot later. __________________ Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?" Who was the first person to say "See that chicken there....I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes out of it's butt." A64 3200+ DFI LanParty UT NF3 250GB 1024meg 2x512meg Kingston HyperX ATI 9800 PRO 128meg 2x80gig Maxtor SATA RAID0
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04-13-05, 10:58 AM	#7
Flamed_Chip Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Yorkshire, UK	You'll still need to use HTML. "Pages" that are written in php and java are actually just programs that run on the server and output HTML to the client's browser. You'll still need to know HTML to write pages in php and java (JSP). You can also embed java applets into HTML pages that are downloaded and run on the clients machine not the server. __________________ Herb: 2 x Intel PIII-S 1.4 GHz - GIGABYTE GA-6VTXDR - 1024MB PC133 - 2 x Tt Volcano 7+ - PCI nVIDIA GeForce fx5500 128MB - 60GB Samsung 7200RPM - 200GB Seagate Barracuda - 500W PSU - Debian GNU/Linux Wyatt: XP 1800+ @ 1725 (150x11.5) 1.85 vcore - Asus A7V266-E - 512MB DDR PC2100 - SK6 modded for Delta 80mm "SHE" - nVIDIA GF2 MX 400 64MB DDR - 40GB WD 7200RPM - 20GB WD 7200RPM - Generic 300W PSU - Load Temp: 45C (Ambiant 22C) - Debian GNU/Linux Moon: Intel PIII 1GHz - Generic Intel motherboard - 512MB PC133 - 7GB HDD - Generic PSU - FreeBSD Kaya (laptop): Sony Vaio PCG-GRT815M - P4 2.8Ghz - 512MB DDR - 80GB 5400RPM - nVIDIA GF FX5600 64MB - Ubuntu GNU/Linux / Windows XP
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04-13-05, 11:08 AM	Thread Starter #8
Tacoman667 Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kingwood, TX	Would those embeded applets be Java or JavaScript? They seem the same but as I read more they are very different. Right? __________________ Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?" Who was the first person to say "See that chicken there....I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes out of it's butt." A64 3200+ DFI LanParty UT NF3 250GB 1024meg 2x512meg Kingston HyperX ATI 9800 PRO 128meg 2x80gig Maxtor SATA RAID0
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04-13-05, 12:19 PM	#9
Flamed_Chip Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Yorkshire, UK	Java and Javascript are different. You can use java for writing JSP and applets, but javascript is embedded into HTML to add functionality to pages. The syntax has differences and javascript is executed within the browser not using the Java Virtual Machine plugin like with an applet. __________________ Herb: 2 x Intel PIII-S 1.4 GHz - GIGABYTE GA-6VTXDR - 1024MB PC133 - 2 x Tt Volcano 7+ - PCI nVIDIA GeForce fx5500 128MB - 60GB Samsung 7200RPM - 200GB Seagate Barracuda - 500W PSU - Debian GNU/Linux Wyatt: XP 1800+ @ 1725 (150x11.5) 1.85 vcore - Asus A7V266-E - 512MB DDR PC2100 - SK6 modded for Delta 80mm "SHE" - nVIDIA GF2 MX 400 64MB DDR - 40GB WD 7200RPM - 20GB WD 7200RPM - Generic 300W PSU - Load Temp: 45C (Ambiant 22C) - Debian GNU/Linux Moon: Intel PIII 1GHz - Generic Intel motherboard - 512MB PC133 - 7GB HDD - Generic PSU - FreeBSD Kaya (laptop): Sony Vaio PCG-GRT815M - P4 2.8Ghz - 512MB DDR - 80GB 5400RPM - nVIDIA GF FX5600 64MB - Ubuntu GNU/Linux / Windows XP
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04-14-05, 06:32 PM	#10
macklin01 Computational Oncologist / Biomathematician / Moderator on Vacation, Ph.D. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA	I'd definitely start with simple (but compliant) HTML and CSS first. Start with just HTML to learn the basics of the tags first (<head>, <body>, <a href=>, etc.) Then use CSS to spice it up and do pretty formatting. Then add in things like java/php to spice it up. The nice thing about knowing it from the ground up is that you can easily write/modify webpages on the go over ssh terminal connections to the server. Very nice for making a quick update or throwing up a new page in little time on an existing site. -- Paul __________________ My heatware (macklin01) Need image I/O for your science apps? Try EasyBMP My biomedical research: Mathematical Cancer Modeling & Simulation I'm on vacation as a moderator as I devote more time to my faculty position. Thank you for your understanding if I don't respond to your PM. -- Paul
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