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Anyone test 4x512 with the Rev E's?

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Kil4Thril

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As stated, has anyone tried this to see if the memory controller implementation is truly improved? I want to use my full 2 Gigs of XMS4400, but I'm limited to awful speeds by my 4000+ :bang head
 
Guys, it's not like 2T is even that big of a deal. It doesn't hurt as much as everyone claims, except for in Sandra...it was worth a smidge over 1% in 3D benchmarks, and about a second in PI. Not an earth-shattering difference. There's absolutely no doubt that 2 GB at 2T would be a lot nicer in daily usage than 1 GB 1T.
 
Gautam said:
Guys, it's not like 2T is even that big of a deal. It doesn't hurt as much as everyone claims, except for in Sandra...it was worth a smidge over 1% in 3D benchmarks, and about a second in PI. Not an earth-shattering difference. There's absolutely no doubt that 2 GB at 2T would be a lot nicer in daily usage than 1 GB 1T.

Interesting..... I'd love to see some data to that effect.:)
 
1T is only a problem when using 4x 512 right? 2x 512 and 1T are still good with Rev E cores right?
 
indeed..... my venice will be here Tuesday or wednesday so I'll do the whole 2Gig 2T vs 1Gig 1T comparison......

I'll do the comparision with my 4 sticks of TCCD..... right now I'm sitting on 293 2.5-4-3-7 1T. Hopefully I can get pretty high with all 4 sticks with 2T.
 
That's what worries me-having to go to 2T AND dropping my HTT down. 2T isn't scary, but I want speed. I've been told numerous times that my 4000+ should be able to go with 4 sticks due to an "upgraded memory controller", but I could never even get into the BIOS with them, but I can run any 2 of the 4 in dual channel up to 315 FSB in MemTest. Winblows is another story- but I'm working on it.

BTW- who would be the networking guru around these parts as I have a problem.
 
Quick SuperPI 1M

2754MHz, mem at 250MHz 5-2-2-2, WinXP, no tweaks

1T: 31.637 sec
2T: 32.085 sec

Less than half a second difference. And just to put it into perspective, 2714 MHz, mem at 247MHz 1T gets me 32.094 sec. So basically, 2T takes off a whopping 3 MHz. Not especially earth shattering.

And now something for all the TCCD fanboys to chew on. 2754 MHz, 1T, but lets slacken up to 5-3-3-2. Brings me up to 32.086, i.e. exact same loss as 2T. Funny how no one feels uncomfortable running 7-3-3-2.5 timings and the like (yuck!) but talking about 2T is enough to get most people barfing. Both are worth almost exactly the same amount.

And I know what you're thinking. It's just one benchmark. That it may be, but it certainly tests memory, latency and CPU speed in a rather balanced manner.

After all, Sandra is just one benchmark as well.

These results, in fact tally up exactly to some 3D runs I made comparing the same stuff about a year ago, but I don't have time to do any of that right at the moment.
 
Kil4Thril said:
I've been told numerous times that my 4000+ should be able to go with 4 sticks due to an "upgraded memory controller"

so that you can run all 4 in PC3200 instead of PC2700.
 
Gautam, I think your point would be better supported with a 16mb or 32mb superpi. And you know how people like pretty pictures..... some 4 stick vs 2 stick pics of a 3D benchmark of your choice would also go a long way..... ;)
 
i seem to be getting a 1 second difference in SuperPi.

see sig for specs, only difference between 35 secs and 36 secs is 1T vs 2T
 
Scrufdog said:
i seem to be getting a 1 second difference in SuperPi.

see sig for specs, only difference between 35 secs and 36 secs is 1T vs 2T
Try out a version that shows the milliseconds, so you can see the precise difference.

Houserat:
Yeah I know all I showed was very very limited in scope. I'll run some 16M and 32M and 3D in the near future.

I've got at the moment 2x256 and 1x512. Not 4 sticks. But I can put 1T and 2T head to head with what I've got. I ran 2T for months with 2x512, and believe me, there was nothing to be felt from switching down to do 1T. I thought that my synthetic benchmarks would skyrocket immensely, but they didn't.

I remember that I went up from 24033 to 24427 in 3DMark01 from 2T to 1T if that helps...2% difference there.

Those that know me know I'm a bencmark fanatic, and even I'm having trouble finding a significant difference between 1T and 2T. I'm sure that running 270-300 2T would score well in benchmarks if that's what you're looking for, and would also be excellent for gaming or anything else that requires a lot of memory. I wouldn't sweat it.
 
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