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THunDA · 05-10-05, 10:04 PM

I posted this in my other thread but figured since its a new mobo it deserves its own thread..

DFI just came out with a new NF4 motherboard the "DFI NF4-D".. Its just like the NF4 Ultra-D but doesnt have SataII or SLI enabled in the chipset..Now since DFI uses the same pcb and chipset as their SLI motherboards this board CAN be modded to enable SLI and SataII !! ..

All you need to do is bridge the contacts like explained in ExRoadie's guide but connect two more and you have yourself a SLI-D..

Here is a pic of which ones need to be bridged..

This is a very easy mod and the price for this mobo is currently $117 @ mwave.. So all you need is a bridge and you have yourself a SLI-D motherboard..

*some links*
DFI NF4-D for sale at ZipZoomFly
DFI NF4-D for sale at Mwave
DFI NF4-D for sale at monarchcomputer
Link to ExRoadie's guide for the SLI mod..

JasonE4 · 05-10-05, 10:08 PM

Why would you get this over the Ultra-D that is about the same price?

THunDA · 05-10-05, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonE4

Why would you get this over the Ultra-D that is about the same price?

Cuz its even cheaper then the Ultra-D and also mods to a SLI-D.. $14 is $14.

Every little bit counts..

JasonE4 · 05-10-05, 11:12 PM

Understandable. I just didn't look at mwave, which is the only place where it's cheaper than an Ultra-D at newegg.

krag · 05-11-05, 01:03 AM

Excellent thread bro! Gotta love DFI!

CJ4 · 05-11-05, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THunDA

Its just like the NF4 Ultra-D but doesnt have SataII or SLI enabled in the chipset..

Just to clarify- the Ultra-D doesn't have SLI enabled either.

CJ

THunDA · 05-11-05, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krag

Excellent thread bro! Gotta love DFI!

Thanks Krag

Hopefully more people will do the mod .. its so dam easy too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ4

Just to clarify- the Ultra-D doesn't have SLI enabled either.

CJ

Nope it doesnt..

Kris · 05-11-05, 01:15 PM

How about the sata II on the ultra-d?

THunDA · 05-11-05, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris

How about the sata II on the ultra-d?

It already supports it

Warren G · 05-11-05, 11:10 PM

lol, answered my question about the one on monarch. i did a search but couldnt find a non ultra version becuase thought it was old lol

apu318 · 05-15-05, 01:53 PM

Do you have to flash the bios with something different? Or is it once you short those solder points out, it just works kinda deal?

THunDA · 05-15-05, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu318

Do you have to flash the bios with something different? Or is it once you short those solder points out, it just works kinda deal?

Nope.. Just do the mod and use the nf4 bios.. once the mod is done bios and drivers just see that u have a sli mobo\chipset..

Warren G · 05-19-05, 09:54 PM

Question about the board. On the manual it says the SATA is only 1.5gb while the other boards are 3gb. The board has only 4 SATA ports (other four only has place for it to be soldered onto) Will the current 4 SATA ports run at 3gb?

THunDA · 05-23-05, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren G

Question about the board. On the manual it says the SATA is only 1.5gb while the other boards are 3gb. The board has only 4 SATA ports (other four only has place for it to be soldered onto) Will the current 4 SATA ports run at 3gb?

yup they all do..

nycundaground · 05-23-05, 08:35 PM

i was wondering if im using the sata in raid right now, and if i do the SATAII pin mod, will it have any negative effects on my current sata raid?

THunDA · 05-24-05, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycundaground

i was wondering if im using the sata in raid right now, and if i do the SATAII pin mod, will it have any negative effects on my current sata raid?

Thats a good question.. but unfortunatly im not sure.. I think it would be ok since its just like raising the buss speed on a mobo which doesnt require a reinstall of windows.. but thats just a assumption ..

Also..
Just to let everyone know the SLI bridge from Leadtek is available at Newegg now too..

zer0nix · 05-24-05, 08:46 PM

woot! i was wondering which dfi nf4 board to go for, thanks!

THunDA · 05-24-05, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0nix

woot! i was wondering which dfi nf4 board to go for, thanks!

Happy to help you decide..

If you have any questions about the mod just ask..

Moto7451 · 05-24-05, 11:27 PM

On thing to look out for is that NVidia officially & at least originally uses/used two different cores for the NForce4. The one used in the NF4 normal edition is an older design thats not supposed to have as many PCIe lanes or SATA-II so you may end up not getting the support for SLI or SATA-II even after doing the mod. If you have the newer core design that they used for the NF4 Ultra & NF4 SLI (they're the same chip but have one resistor thats different between the two, which is why the mod works from Ultra -> SLI) then it'll work just fine since you have a wolf in sheep's clothing so to speak

.

I hope that everyone gets the latter & not the former (it would be cheaper to just make one chip & bin it to each spec than to keep two designs in the fabs so hopefully they follow the economic/fun for us path). Happy modding.

THunDA · 05-25-05, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto7451

On thing to look out for is that NVidia officially & at least originally uses/used two different cores for the NForce4. The one used in the NF4 normal edition is an older design thats not supposed to have as many PCIe lanes or SATA-II so you may end up not getting the support for SLI or SATA-II even after doing the mod. If you have the newer core design that they used for the NF4 Ultra & NF4 SLI (they're the same chip but have one resistor thats different between the two, which is why the mod works from Ultra -> SLI) then it'll work just fine since you have a wolf in sheep's clothing so to speak

.

I hope that everyone gets the latter & not the former (it would be cheaper to just make one chip & bin it to each spec than to keep two designs in the fabs so hopefully they follow the economic/fun for us path). Happy modding.

Im not sure where you heard that from and it may be true with other mobo manufacturers .. But I have a inside source that has confirmed for me that ALL of DFI's NF4's are moddable.. And that they purchased twenty-thirty thousand raw chips and they are all the same.. They have many that are not even placed on boards yet, so DFI's will be moddable for quite some time..

325cic · 05-25-05, 02:25 PM

can someone conform this mod work at all? I mean verified SataII work and SLI enble after mod. anyone? because I am about to order one..

zer0nix · 05-25-05, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto7451

On thing to look out for is that NVidia officially & at least originally uses/used two different cores for the NForce4. The one used in the NF4 normal edition is an older design thats not supposed to have as many PCIe lanes or SATA-II so you may end up not getting the support for SLI or SATA-II even after doing the mod. If you have the newer core design that they used for the NF4 Ultra & NF4 SLI (they're the same chip but have one resistor thats different between the two, which is why the mod works from Ultra -> SLI) then it'll work just fine since you have a wolf in sheep's clothing so to speak

.

I hope that everyone gets the latter & not the former (it would be cheaper to just make one chip & bin it to each spec than to keep two designs in the fabs so hopefully they follow the economic/fun for us path). Happy modding.

that just answered a question that's been nagging me since yesterday; why is dfi even making this board if the 'extra options' can be enabled with some simple modding? if it turns out that some boards cannot be fully modded, i may have to turn toward one of the pricier, 'fully enabled' nf4 boards...

THunDA · 05-25-05, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THunDA

But I have a inside source that has confirmed for me that ALL of DFI's NF4's are moddable.. And that they purchased twenty-thirty thousand raw chips and they are all the same.. They have many that are not even placed on boards yet, so DFI's will be moddable for quite some time..

Listen.. I cant make you guys believe me, you can believe what you want.. People that know me know I dont lie and what I state is true.. Im only trying to pass on some info that I KNOW is TRUE..

I cant keep repeating that these boards ARE and WILL be moddable for quite some time..

So do whatever you believe and feel is best..

GL..

Warren G · 05-26-05, 01:50 PM

well, i got the board and modded it. it does show nf4 sli at post, but i cant really test since im too broke to go sli....

THunDA · 05-26-05, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren G

well, i got the board and modded it. it does show nf4 sli at post, but i cant really test since im too broke to go sli....

Did you go with the NF4-D ?

Thanks alot for posting your success with the mod ..

whitebloodcell · 05-27-05, 02:08 PM

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I could have sworn I read somewhere that nVidia did something to stop people from Modding their NF4 Ultra boards to SLI. Why it is different for this board? Not trying to be awrkward, I believe it works and am going to order this board, assuming I can overcome my fear of physically modding expensive electronics. (I thought I was going to pass out with fright when putting the modchip on my Xbox)

IS the DFI NF4-D based on the Ultra Chipset, or the plain NF4? Is the only difference between this and the NF4 Ultra-D the No and type of SATA ports, and SLI. Nothing else?

EDIT: Found the article

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anandtech

nVidia has acted to prevent, or at least make it more difficult, to mod the Ultra board to SLI. First, DFI has advised us, and posted on their website, that they will NOT sell the SLI bridge to buyers of the Ultra board. Second, nVidia has advised us that future shipments of the Ultra chipset have been modified so that the mod to SLI will no longer be possible. An additional side effect of this second action is that the "Dual Video" mode, which performs at about 90% of SLI performance levels, will only work with nVidia SLI drivers 66.75 or earlier. If you do a quick check of web driver postings you will see it is now very difficult to find 66.75 drivers. With a chipset modded to SLI the "Dual Video" mode worked through 70.xx versions of the nVidia driver. nVidia also made it clear they will continue to make driver changes to prevent functioning of any "non-standard" (8X/8X) operation of their SLI driver. This also throws into question whether the VIA "dual graphics" mode on the 894 Pro chipset will ever work with nVidia graphics cards. If you are interested in the current UT Ultra-D we suggest you buy one now if you can find it. Future versions of the UT Ultra-D will not have the same capabilities as a result of these actions.

EDIT Again: Reading over at the DFI forums has clarified that I am wrong. Ohwell.

Warren G · 05-28-05, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THunDA

Did you go with the NF4-D ?

Thanks alot for posting your success with the mod ..

Yup, got the NF4-D board. Very easy mod, only problem is I have no real way of testing to see if it worked

whitebloodcell · 05-28-05, 04:04 AM

Do you know of any UK Online retailer that has the NF4-D? They have the Ultra and SLI versions, at £137 and £104 each I might add, I hate the way you have such cheap prices.

THunDA · 05-28-05, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebloodcell

Do you know of any UK Online retailer that has the NF4-D? They have the Ultra and SLI versions, at £137 and £104 each I might add, I hate the way you have such cheap prices.

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Sorry I have no clue..

exe422 · 05-29-05, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ4

Just to clarify- the Ultra-D doesn't have SLI enabled either.

CJ

what do u mean coz i did the mod but my board doesnt detect vga now...

05-10-05, 10:04 PM	#1
THunDA Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY	How to Mod the D and Ultra-D to SataII and SLI I posted this in my other thread but figured since its a new mobo it deserves its own thread.. DFI just came out with a new NF4 motherboard the "DFI NF4-D".. Its just like the NF4 Ultra-D but doesnt have SataII or SLI enabled in the chipset..Now since DFI uses the same pcb and chipset as their SLI motherboards this board CAN be modded to enable SLI and SataII !! .. All you need to do is bridge the contacts like explained in ExRoadie's guide but connect two more and you have yourself a SLI-D.. Here is a pic of which ones need to be bridged.. This is a very easy mod and the price for this mobo is currently $117 @ mwave.. So all you need is a bridge and you have yourself a SLI-D motherboard.. some links DFI NF4-D for sale at ZipZoomFly DFI NF4-D for sale at Mwave DFI NF4-D for sale at monarchcomputer Link to ExRoadie's guide for the SLI mod.. __________________ C2D E4300 350x9=3150mhz (1.325+100.0mV) - DFI Infinity 975X/G - Bios 2/27/07 - 2x1024mb OCZ DDR2-800 (ATI CrossFire Certified) – PcPower & Cooling SILENCER 610 PSU NEC 3550a DVD writer - 160gig Seagate Sata Drive - Power Color x1900xtx w-7.1 Cats - Danger Den Water Cooling = TDX+Maze4+BIX2+DDC-12v+3\8 tubing DFI Lanparty Ultra-D - Bios 406 - Opteron 170 @ 2600mhz 1.375vcore - CPU Cooling = Corsair Nautilus 500 External Water Cooler - NEC 3550a DVD writer 2x1024mb Corsair PC4000 UCCC @ 260mhz - OCZ PowerStream 600w PSU - 250gig HITACHI Deskstar (7K250) - XFX 7800gt w-93.71's Last edited by THunDA; 11-02-05 at 02:30 PM.

05-10-05, 10:08 PM	#2
JasonE4 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Why would you get this over the Ultra-D that is about the same price? __________________ Heatware

05-10-05, 11:12 PM	#4
JasonE4 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Understandable. I just didn't look at mwave, which is the only place where it's cheaper than an Ultra-D at newegg. __________________ Heatware

05-11-05, 01:03 AM	#5
krag Inactive Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Woodland, Washington	Excellent thread bro! Gotta love DFI! __________________ I.M.O.G. "It's a plugin issue," ...

05-11-05, 11:10 PM	#10
Warren G Member Join Date: Jun 2002	lol, answered my question about the one on monarch. i did a search but couldnt find a non ultra version becuase thought it was old lol __________________ Main: Corsair HX520W - Asus P5Q Pro - e7200 @ 400x7.5 1.2v - OCZ DDR2 800 - 250gb Seagate 7200.10 - ATI 4850 Macbook Pro Unibody - 3GB DDR3 - 320GB 7200rpm Main HTPC: Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H - BE-2400 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Fusion 430 Family HTPC: Intel DG31PR - e4300 - ATI 4350 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Fusion 430 Family HTPC2: Asus M2A-VM - BE-2350 18c/22c stock cooling - 2x1GB DDR2 667 - 80gb Seagate 7200.9 - Antec Earthwatts 380w - Silverstone Evolution SG01 - 55w load Family HTPC3: ECS GF7050VT - Celeron 430 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Earthwatts 380 - Antec NSK3480 Family HTPC4: Pegatron/POV IPX7A-ION330 - Atom 330 - 4GB DDR2 800 So-dimm - 2.5" 250gb 5400rpm - SilverStone Sugo SG05-B - FSP 300w - 48c/86c - 29w/37w Server / NAS - Gigabyte MA74S2 - AMD BE-2300 @ 1ghz .9v - 4GB DDR2 800 - 20gb 2.5" Seagate - 2x640 WD AAKS - Antec 380W Earthwatt PSU - Antec Solo - 59w load

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05-11-05, 01:15 PM	#8
Kris Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Eating thermal paste!@#	How about the sata II on the ultra-d?

05-15-05, 01:53 PM	#11
apu318 Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Welland: Most drug use per capita in Canada.	Do you have to flash the bios with something different? Or is it once you short those solder points out, it just works kinda deal?

05-19-05, 09:54 PM	#13
Warren G Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Question about the board. On the manual it says the SATA is only 1.5gb while the other boards are 3gb. The board has only 4 SATA ports (other four only has place for it to be soldered onto) Will the current 4 SATA ports run at 3gb? __________________ Main: Corsair HX520W - Asus P5Q Pro - e7200 @ 400x7.5 1.2v - OCZ DDR2 800 - 250gb Seagate 7200.10 - ATI 4850 Macbook Pro Unibody - 3GB DDR3 - 320GB 7200rpm Main HTPC: Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H - BE-2400 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Fusion 430 Family HTPC: Intel DG31PR - e4300 - ATI 4350 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Fusion 430 Family HTPC2: Asus M2A-VM - BE-2350 18c/22c stock cooling - 2x1GB DDR2 667 - 80gb Seagate 7200.9 - Antec Earthwatts 380w - Silverstone Evolution SG01 - 55w load Family HTPC3: ECS GF7050VT - Celeron 430 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Earthwatts 380 - Antec NSK3480 Family HTPC4: Pegatron/POV IPX7A-ION330 - Atom 330 - 4GB DDR2 800 So-dimm - 2.5" 250gb 5400rpm - SilverStone Sugo SG05-B - FSP 300w - 48c/86c - 29w/37w Server / NAS - Gigabyte MA74S2 - AMD BE-2300 @ 1ghz .9v - 4GB DDR2 800 - 20gb 2.5" Seagate - 2x640 WD AAKS - Antec 380W Earthwatt PSU - Antec Solo - 59w load

05-23-05, 08:35 PM	#15
nycundaground Member Join Date: Mar 2003	i was wondering if im using the sata in raid right now, and if i do the SATAII pin mod, will it have any negative effects on my current sata raid? __________________ C2D E6600 ASUS P5W64 Mushkin (2 x 1GB) XP2-6400 ATI x850xt 2 x 150GB WD Raptor RAID Thermalright Ultra-120

05-24-05, 08:46 PM	#17
zer0nix Member Join Date: Mar 2005	woot! i was wondering which dfi nf4 board to go for, thanks!

05-24-05, 11:27 PM	#19
Moto7451 Senior Something Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA, CA	On thing to look out for is that NVidia officially & at least originally uses/used two different cores for the NForce4. The one used in the NF4 normal edition is an older design thats not supposed to have as many PCIe lanes or SATA-II so you may end up not getting the support for SLI or SATA-II even after doing the mod. If you have the newer core design that they used for the NF4 Ultra & NF4 SLI (they're the same chip but have one resistor thats different between the two, which is why the mod works from Ultra -> SLI) then it'll work just fine since you have a wolf in sheep's clothing so to speak . I hope that everyone gets the latter & not the former (it would be cheaper to just make one chip & bin it to each spec than to keep two designs in the fabs so hopefully they follow the economic/fun for us path). Happy modding. __________________ Intel C2D e6400 @ 375MHz x8 = 3Ghz 1.328v, Gigabyte EP43-UD3L, 3GB DDR2, GeForce 9600GT, 73GB 15K SCSI HD on an Adaptec 29160 SCSI Card, 750GB SATA Drive, HDTV Tuner D5 Pump • Bonneville w/ AC Heater Core • Gemeni Cooling Maze 4 Style Water Block Sager 8690: Core i7 940XM Exreme 2.13GHz (3.2GHz Burst), 4GB DDR3, GeForce GTX 285M 1GB, 15.6" 1080 LCD, 320GB 7200RPM HD Poor Man's Mountain Mod UFO Project Difference Between D5 Revisions + flow mod Difference between NPSM & G1/4 Last edited by Moto7451; 05-24-05 at 11:32 PM.

05-25-05, 02:25 PM	#21
325cic Member Join Date: Sep 2003	can someone conform this mod work at all? I mean verified SataII work and SLI enble after mod. anyone? because I am about to order one.. __________________ i7 930@4515MHz HT-on, 1.52V G.Skill PI 1720Mhz 6-8-7-21-70-T1, 1.48V MSI X58 Pro-E SSD RAID 0 & 1.5T HD Storage ATi-5870@1000/1250 Water: GTZ, BXIII, and D5 pump. Antec 1000W. Planar "46inches LCD"

05-26-05, 01:50 PM	#24
Warren G Member Join Date: Jun 2002	well, i got the board and modded it. it does show nf4 sli at post, but i cant really test since im too broke to go sli.... __________________ Main: Corsair HX520W - Asus P5Q Pro - e7200 @ 400x7.5 1.2v - OCZ DDR2 800 - 250gb Seagate 7200.10 - ATI 4850 Macbook Pro Unibody - 3GB DDR3 - 320GB 7200rpm Main HTPC: Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H - BE-2400 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Fusion 430 Family HTPC: Intel DG31PR - e4300 - ATI 4350 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Fusion 430 Family HTPC2: Asus M2A-VM - BE-2350 18c/22c stock cooling - 2x1GB DDR2 667 - 80gb Seagate 7200.9 - Antec Earthwatts 380w - Silverstone Evolution SG01 - 55w load Family HTPC3: ECS GF7050VT - Celeron 430 - 2GB DDR2 - Antec Earthwatts 380 - Antec NSK3480 Family HTPC4: Pegatron/POV IPX7A-ION330 - Atom 330 - 4GB DDR2 800 So-dimm - 2.5" 250gb 5400rpm - SilverStone Sugo SG05-B - FSP 300w - 48c/86c - 29w/37w Server / NAS - Gigabyte MA74S2 - AMD BE-2300 @ 1ghz .9v - 4GB DDR2 800 - 20gb 2.5" Seagate - 2x640 WD AAKS - Antec 380W Earthwatt PSU - Antec Solo - 59w load

05-28-05, 04:04 AM	#28
whitebloodcell Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wells, England	Do you know of any UK Online retailer that has the NF4-D? They have the Ultra and SLI versions, at £137 and £104 each I might add, I hate the way you have such cheap prices.