Windows XP SP1 or SP2

NetworkGuru · 05-11-05, 03:17 PM

Is there any difference in running benchmarks under SP1 as compared to SP2?

Celeron_Phreak · 05-27-05, 02:14 PM

When I installed SP2, my benches went down 50-100 points. Not a huge change, but noticible in 3DMark 03 and 05 for sure.

d]g[ts · 05-27-05, 04:18 PM

I agree. for some reason things go a tad better with SP2 over SP1, and original XP. this even applies to things like superPI, and Pifast too. Dunno why, but seems to help a tad.

Celeron_Phreak · 05-27-05, 11:12 PM

I personally refuse to use SP2 because of how buggy is it. My older bro (not AMD Phreak, another one), installed it on my dad's computer and it made his comp lock up every 4 or so hours, and caused it to stop seeing his hard drives. A few other customers of AMD Phreak and I's (we own DBNetworkz) have installed SP2 on a few computers and it's caused them to stop seeing the network, and one of them just wouldn't boot.

Don't remove SP2 after you've installed it, or your computer won't boot at all anymore.

IrishAssassin · 05-27-05, 11:19 PM

My SP2 works fine, I guess it varies from every person.

caincha · 05-28-05, 01:10 PM

mine is crappy on IE..
too slow...

Celeron_Phreak · 05-28-05, 09:37 PM

But IE is slow naturally, and it's full of security holes!

Firefox all the way baby.

caincha · 05-28-05, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeron_Phreak

But IE is slow naturally, and it's full of security holes!

Firefox all the way baby.

LOL I know that

But my IE is even slower now that I have sp2...

Kalivos · 05-31-05, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeron_Phreak

Don't remove SP2 after you've installed it, or your computer won't boot at all anymore.

I've never had that issue. I've had to remove it from four different computers, and no problems. Maybe you removed it in some foul and wretched way of which Windows XP was not fond of?

caincha · 06-02-05, 09:45 PM

Well I don't care what people say! SP2 sux big time!!
After I installed it everything is slower. AV, P2P, IE, spend more time booting, etc...
I'll try to remove it, but ain't expecting anything anymore...

BTW, is there a way that SP2 would block P2P..?
Maybe because RIIA (or is it RIAA..? doesn't matter anyway

) MS pulled a update that would cause malfunction on P2P softs...

And if it hasn't happened yet can it be done in the future?
Anyone knows anything about it?

speed bump · 06-03-05, 12:21 AM

I have to install SP2 on a computer shortly so if it works great if it doesn't i'll tell you how to unistall it since I can't just wipe the HD on that computer.

Seriously why is there so much Microsoft hating? You don't have use anything Microsoft, heck I'll even send you a linux CD if you wan't to get away from Microsoft but have dialup.

However the dude asked which one is best for benching so obviously hes probably willing to take risk of it scewing up in his quest for higher benchmarking scores.

Celeron_Phreak · 06-03-05, 12:29 AM

I'd just say go with SP1 for benchmarking, since it gives better results....at least, it did with me.

I don't hate Microsoft. XP Pro is a very nice operating system, without SP2 installed. All you have to do is be sure you have your regular security updates installed and anti-virus software. You shoudl be fine for half a year or so without having to run ad-aware, spybot and hijack this.

caincha · 06-03-05, 05:12 AM

I don't hate MS either and don't even want to go w/ Linux too...
And I agree w/ Celeron_Phreak: XP Pro is a very nice operating system, without SP2 installed....

IrishAssassin · 06-03-05, 08:40 AM

If you want better benchmarking scores, Windows 2000 is the best one. I think they have a guide written at XtremeSystems

caincha · 06-03-05, 06:07 PM

I'm thinking about getting back to Win2k also...
You think is worth it?

speed bump · 06-03-05, 07:26 PM

For Intel no, For AMD yes win2k is definetly better.

caincha · 06-03-05, 09:57 PM

Danm...
I'm a Intel guy....

adriana · 06-03-05, 10:30 PM

is there really any use for sp1 or sp2? i heard it just slows down your computer?

kswaid · 06-03-05, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adriana

is there really any use for sp1 or sp2? i heard it just slows down your computer?

sp1 is needed for several newer computer functions. In fact, I believe it is required for USB 2.0 to operate correctly. It also fixes quite a few bugs and security vulnerabilities, so you should install it. sp2, on the other hand, seems to cause problems with a lot of computers so I do not personally recommend it.

Kalivos · 06-03-05, 10:41 PM

They both add a lot of security and fix bugs in the system Sp1 is definatly good, but SP2 tends to slow down pc's, although I've noticed it's mostly gaming pc's that people notice it the most in.

05-11-05, 03:17 PM	Thread Starter #1
NetworkGuru Member Join Date: Mar 2005	Windows XP SP1 or SP2 Is there any difference in running benchmarks under SP1 as compared to SP2?
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05-27-05, 02:14 PM	#2
Celeron_Phreak Member Join Date: Mar 2003	When I installed SP2, my benches went down 50-100 points. Not a huge change, but noticible in 3DMark 03 and 05 for sure. __________________ Seasonic 600W SLI PSU 2x Logitech MX Revolutions -- Icemat 2nd Edition: Black Plextor 16x SATA DVD-RW -- LG 16x DVD-/+RW/RAM nVidia Reference GTX 280 - IBM P260 Trinitron 21" & DCLCD 19" LCD 2x 1GB Mushkin & 2x 512MB Centon SP3200 (3-3-3-8) Seagate 200GB SATA -- WD 120GB SATA -- Seagate 300GB SATA -- Seagate 500GB IDE 939 AMD Opteron 180 @ 2872 MHz -- ASUS A8N-SLI HDA X-Plosion DTS -- Logitech Z-680 rev. 2 :) Heatware
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d]g[ts Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: pittsburgh	I agree. for some reason things go a tad better with SP2 over SP1, and original XP. this even applies to things like superPI, and Pifast too. Dunno why, but seems to help a tad. __________________ SUPPORT YOUR OC3DMark Team! heatware
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05-27-05, 11:12 PM	#4
Celeron_Phreak Member Join Date: Mar 2003	I personally refuse to use SP2 because of how buggy is it. My older bro (not AMD Phreak, another one), installed it on my dad's computer and it made his comp lock up every 4 or so hours, and caused it to stop seeing his hard drives. A few other customers of AMD Phreak and I's (we own DBNetworkz) have installed SP2 on a few computers and it's caused them to stop seeing the network, and one of them just wouldn't boot. Don't remove SP2 after you've installed it, or your computer won't boot at all anymore. __________________ Seasonic 600W SLI PSU 2x Logitech MX Revolutions -- Icemat 2nd Edition: Black Plextor 16x SATA DVD-RW -- LG 16x DVD-/+RW/RAM nVidia Reference GTX 280 - IBM P260 Trinitron 21" & DCLCD 19" LCD 2x 1GB Mushkin & 2x 512MB Centon SP3200 (3-3-3-8) Seagate 200GB SATA -- WD 120GB SATA -- Seagate 300GB SATA -- Seagate 500GB IDE 939 AMD Opteron 180 @ 2872 MHz -- ASUS A8N-SLI HDA X-Plosion DTS -- Logitech Z-680 rev. 2 :) Heatware
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05-28-05, 01:10 PM	#6
caincha Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: BRASIL	mine is crappy on IE.. too slow... __________________ As of now I'm struggling with a Powerbook G4 Aluminum 1,67ghz with dead PRAM battery and dead main battery. What can I say, it was cheap and I was on a budget.
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05-28-05, 09:37 PM	#7
Celeron_Phreak Member Join Date: Mar 2003	But IE is slow naturally, and it's full of security holes! Firefox all the way baby. __________________ Seasonic 600W SLI PSU 2x Logitech MX Revolutions -- Icemat 2nd Edition: Black Plextor 16x SATA DVD-RW -- LG 16x DVD-/+RW/RAM nVidia Reference GTX 280 - IBM P260 Trinitron 21" & DCLCD 19" LCD 2x 1GB Mushkin & 2x 512MB Centon SP3200 (3-3-3-8) Seagate 200GB SATA -- WD 120GB SATA -- Seagate 300GB SATA -- Seagate 500GB IDE 939 AMD Opteron 180 @ 2872 MHz -- ASUS A8N-SLI HDA X-Plosion DTS -- Logitech Z-680 rev. 2 :) Heatware
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06-02-05, 09:45 PM	#10
caincha Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: BRASIL	Well I don't care what people say! SP2 sux big time!! After I installed it everything is slower. AV, P2P, IE, spend more time booting, etc... I'll try to remove it, but ain't expecting anything anymore... BTW, is there a way that SP2 would block P2P..? Maybe because RIIA (or is it RIAA..? doesn't matter anyway ) MS pulled a update that would cause malfunction on P2P softs... And if it hasn't happened yet can it be done in the future? Anyone knows anything about it? __________________ As of now I'm struggling with a Powerbook G4 Aluminum 1,67ghz with dead PRAM battery and dead main battery. What can I say, it was cheap and I was on a budget.
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06-03-05, 12:21 AM	#11
speed bump Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montana tech Butte mt.	I have to install SP2 on a computer shortly so if it works great if it doesn't i'll tell you how to unistall it since I can't just wipe the HD on that computer. Seriously why is there so much Microsoft hating? You don't have use anything Microsoft, heck I'll even send you a linux CD if you wan't to get away from Microsoft but have dialup. However the dude asked which one is best for benching so obviously hes probably willing to take risk of it scewing up in his quest for higher benchmarking scores. __________________ Big changes coming: Intel e4300, DFI Blood iron, Crucial DDR2-8500, ATI x859xt, MCW-6002>Ehiem 1250>Bip3 with 3 nidec beta Vs, Sunbeam Zorro, Corsair 650 watter Stuff I should be using but don't: Finally got around to running that stuff. Ever run a benchmark? support our forums by posting it in the 3dmark team and system benchmarking team sections. My heatware Silence may be golden but performance is platinum
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06-03-05, 12:29 AM	#12
Celeron_Phreak Member Join Date: Mar 2003	I'd just say go with SP1 for benchmarking, since it gives better results....at least, it did with me. I don't hate Microsoft. XP Pro is a very nice operating system, without SP2 installed. All you have to do is be sure you have your regular security updates installed and anti-virus software. You shoudl be fine for half a year or so without having to run ad-aware, spybot and hijack this. __________________ Seasonic 600W SLI PSU 2x Logitech MX Revolutions -- Icemat 2nd Edition: Black Plextor 16x SATA DVD-RW -- LG 16x DVD-/+RW/RAM nVidia Reference GTX 280 - IBM P260 Trinitron 21" & DCLCD 19" LCD 2x 1GB Mushkin & 2x 512MB Centon SP3200 (3-3-3-8) Seagate 200GB SATA -- WD 120GB SATA -- Seagate 300GB SATA -- Seagate 500GB IDE 939 AMD Opteron 180 @ 2872 MHz -- ASUS A8N-SLI HDA X-Plosion DTS -- Logitech Z-680 rev. 2 :) Heatware
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06-03-05, 05:12 AM	#13
caincha Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: BRASIL	I don't hate MS either and don't even want to go w/ Linux too... And I agree w/ Celeron_Phreak: XP Pro is a very nice operating system, without SP2 installed.... __________________ As of now I'm struggling with a Powerbook G4 Aluminum 1,67ghz with dead PRAM battery and dead main battery. What can I say, it was cheap and I was on a budget.
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06-03-05, 08:40 AM	#14
IrishAssassin Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montreal	If you want better benchmarking scores, Windows 2000 is the best one. I think they have a guide written at XtremeSystems __________________ Gaming Rig cpu - Intel Core i5 760 @ 3.5 gHz mobo - Asus P7P55-E LX vid card - Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB @ 850core/1700shader/2000memory ram - GSkill GBNQ 3x2gb DDR3 @ 9-9-9-24 1T hd - WD Black 640gb - OCZ Vertex 2 60gb psu - Corsair TX750 sound - Asus Xonar Essence STX case - Lian-Li PC-60FNWB OS - Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit PSN: Aenimosity
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06-03-05, 06:07 PM	#15
caincha Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: BRASIL	I'm thinking about getting back to Win2k also... You think is worth it? __________________ As of now I'm struggling with a Powerbook G4 Aluminum 1,67ghz with dead PRAM battery and dead main battery. What can I say, it was cheap and I was on a budget.
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06-03-05, 07:26 PM	#16
speed bump Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montana tech Butte mt.	For Intel no, For AMD yes win2k is definetly better. __________________ Big changes coming: Intel e4300, DFI Blood iron, Crucial DDR2-8500, ATI x859xt, MCW-6002>Ehiem 1250>Bip3 with 3 nidec beta Vs, Sunbeam Zorro, Corsair 650 watter Stuff I should be using but don't: Finally got around to running that stuff. Ever run a benchmark? support our forums by posting it in the 3dmark team and system benchmarking team sections. My heatware Silence may be golden but performance is platinum
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06-03-05, 09:57 PM	#17
caincha Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: BRASIL	Danm... I'm a Intel guy.... __________________ As of now I'm struggling with a Powerbook G4 Aluminum 1,67ghz with dead PRAM battery and dead main battery. What can I say, it was cheap and I was on a budget.
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06-03-05, 10:30 PM	#18
adriana Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Angeles	is there really any use for sp1 or sp2? i heard it just slows down your computer?
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06-03-05, 10:41 PM	#20
Kalivos Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: California	They both add a lot of security and fix bugs in the system Sp1 is definatly good, but SP2 tends to slow down pc's, although I've noticed it's mostly gaming pc's that people notice it the most in.
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