Which burner?

EvilAerosolCan · 05-17-05, 01:18 PM

I've looked around a little bit and seen good things about the NEC 3520 and Pioneer 109. I was also looking at the Samsung TS-H552U on Newegg, and I think it looks pretty cool. But anyways, out of these three (or make suggestions if you want), which is the best? Money doesn't concern me, as DVD burners aren't really that expensive. But like I said, it doesn't have to be one of these, I just want something that won't make me worry about coasters every time I burn a CD/DVD. Thanks for any help ahead of time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129161
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152038
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151075

(I hope the links work)

Hirlix · 05-17-05, 01:39 PM

It depends on your priorities. Do you want Dual Layer burns? What kind of discs are you going to buy for burning? Will you also want quality CD burning? Do you want to have a DVD writer that allows you to check the burn quality?

EvilAerosolCan · 05-17-05, 02:47 PM

Yes I would like to have dual layer burning. Any extras that will help quality and cut down on bad burns, like that quality checker of which you speak, would be cool. I will also be burning lots of CD's, so something with quality CD burning is a must. I'm not sure what kind of disk's would provide better quality, but I'll look into that once I get my computer up and running.

Hirlix · 05-17-05, 03:28 PM

When I mention "DVD writer that allows you to check the burn quality", that 'check', that quality test is exactly that - you put in the drive whatever CD or DVD burnt in that same writer or burnt in other and, with the use of the proper software like Nero CD/DVD Speed, or DVDInfo, KProbe (for Lite-On writers), or even Plextools (for Plextor drives) you check about the burn quality of the CD or DVD.
If that test results are not good that can mean:
- the CD/DVD media used is not good
- the writer does not like that brand of CD/DVD medias
- the writer is not working as it should
Well, I think you got the point.
So, is that feature important for you?

EvilAerosolCan · 05-17-05, 07:29 PM

Sounds good.

Hirlix · 05-17-05, 09:37 PM

I just remembered more features that you might want:
1. Lightscribe support
2. DVD-RAM support
3. Dual Layer -R support
Let me know.
Also note that there isn't one writer that supports all features that I've talked about. So, you have to decide what you really want.

Anyway, I think you should pick one of these:
- Benq 1620 (or 1620 Pro)
- Lite-On 1673 (or the recent 1693 which not only burns Dual Layer +R discs like the 1673, but also DL -R discs)
- Plextor 716A (not cheap)

Mr.Guvernment · 05-17-05, 09:44 PM

NEC 3520 - awsome 3rd party firmeware support - i own one and love it!

dont go lite on - i have read nothing but bad reviews on them and their "quality" of burns.

dark_15 · 05-17-05, 10:23 PM

I have a NEC 3500A, and I've had zero problems with it. Rock solid, and fast burns with zero 'coasters'. I have heard that the 3520 is a step above the the 3500A...

So, I can bet that the 3520 would be an excellent choice.

Hope that helps!

Hirlix · 05-18-05, 12:21 AM

3250...?
I'm sure you meant 3520

It is not a good option if you want official support for bitsetting and if you want to make quality tests.

dark_15 · 05-18-05, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hirlix

3250...?
I'm sure you meant 3520

It is not a good option if you want official support for bitsetting and if you want to make quality tests.

*Looks Back at old post*

Wow... I must've been half asleep while typing that...

and yes, I meant the 3520 and 3500. A quick edit and the errors are no more!

EvilAerosolCan · 05-18-05, 07:13 AM

Super

I guess I'll go with the 3520. That's the one I was really leaning towards anyways. Does anybody have any experience with that Samsung that I linked to up top? Or is it just a POS? Thanks for all the help.

Hirlix · 05-18-05, 10:29 AM

Samsung has been having issues... So, not the best bet.
As for the 3520, as I told before, it has not bitsetting support and doesn't allow to test burned discs.

Ven0m · 05-19-05, 01:52 PM

Recently, I bought Benq DW1620 Pro and I'm -=PLEASED=-. It's good, fast, has great software and nice firmware hacks (MCSE). It can read disks nicely too - burnt full DVDs <5 minutes and slows down, when you watch movies.

Ducatti · 05-19-05, 04:25 PM

Love my SATA Plextor 716SA. FAST...

adelphia83 · 05-20-05, 08:32 PM

One more vote for the NEC ND-3520A. It does detect C2 errors, and can support bitsetting through the use of 3rd party firmware. I've used both the 2510A, and 3520A. Rock solid reliablity, quiet, and excellent burns.

You'll want the 3rd party firmware regardless (even with most drives) to eliminate the "riplock" (reduces speed while ripping discs), and to support bitsetting.

Mr.Guvernment · 05-21-05, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hirlix

3250...?
I'm sure you meant 3520

It is not a good option if you want official support for bitsetting and if you want to make quality tests.

Who needs official when you have awsome 3rd party stuff

Hirlix · 05-21-05, 10:50 AM

For warranty reasons, of course.

Ven0m · 05-21-05, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hirlix

For warranty reasons, of course.

You can always reflash...

Hirlix · 05-21-05, 03:13 PM

Whenever a successfull one is possible. If not...:P

Ven0m · 05-21-05, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hirlix

Whenever a successfull one is possible. If not...:P

Yeah, you're absolutely right.
My Benq with modified firmware is just too good for me to allow me think about such things.

05-17-05, 01:18 PM	Thread Starter #1
EvilAerosolCan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Havelock, NC	Which burner? I've looked around a little bit and seen good things about the NEC 3520 and Pioneer 109. I was also looking at the Samsung TS-H552U on Newegg, and I think it looks pretty cool. But anyways, out of these three (or make suggestions if you want), which is the best? Money doesn't concern me, as DVD burners aren't really that expensive. But like I said, it doesn't have to be one of these, I just want something that won't make me worry about coasters every time I burn a CD/DVD. Thanks for any help ahead of time. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129161 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152038 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151075 (I hope the links work) __________________ DFI Lanparty SLI-DR AMD X2 4800+ 2x1GB G.Skill HZ WD Raptor 74GB and WD 250GB eVga 7800GTX PC P&C 510 SLI OCForums Metal Club member #555
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05-17-05, 01:39 PM	#2
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	It depends on your priorities. Do you want Dual Layer burns? What kind of discs are you going to buy for burning? Will you also want quality CD burning? Do you want to have a DVD writer that allows you to check the burn quality?
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05-17-05, 02:47 PM	Thread Starter #3
EvilAerosolCan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Havelock, NC	Yes I would like to have dual layer burning. Any extras that will help quality and cut down on bad burns, like that quality checker of which you speak, would be cool. I will also be burning lots of CD's, so something with quality CD burning is a must. I'm not sure what kind of disk's would provide better quality, but I'll look into that once I get my computer up and running. __________________ DFI Lanparty SLI-DR AMD X2 4800+ 2x1GB G.Skill HZ WD Raptor 74GB and WD 250GB eVga 7800GTX PC P&C 510 SLI OCForums Metal Club member #555
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05-17-05, 03:28 PM	#4
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	When I mention "DVD writer that allows you to check the burn quality", that 'check', that quality test is exactly that - you put in the drive whatever CD or DVD burnt in that same writer or burnt in other and, with the use of the proper software like Nero CD/DVD Speed, or DVDInfo, KProbe (for Lite-On writers), or even Plextools (for Plextor drives) you check about the burn quality of the CD or DVD. If that test results are not good that can mean: - the CD/DVD media used is not good - the writer does not like that brand of CD/DVD medias - the writer is not working as it should Well, I think you got the point. So, is that feature important for you?
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05-17-05, 07:29 PM	Thread Starter #5
EvilAerosolCan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Havelock, NC	Sounds good. __________________ DFI Lanparty SLI-DR AMD X2 4800+ 2x1GB G.Skill HZ WD Raptor 74GB and WD 250GB eVga 7800GTX PC P&C 510 SLI OCForums Metal Club member #555
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05-17-05, 09:37 PM	#6
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	I just remembered more features that you might want: 1. Lightscribe support 2. DVD-RAM support 3. Dual Layer -R support Let me know. Also note that there isn't one writer that supports all features that I've talked about. So, you have to decide what you really want. Anyway, I think you should pick one of these: - Benq 1620 (or 1620 Pro) - Lite-On 1673 (or the recent 1693 which not only burns Dual Layer +R discs like the 1673, but also DL -R discs) - Plextor 716A (not cheap)
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05-17-05, 09:44 PM	#7
Mr.Guvernment Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Costa Rica - and toronto sometimes	NEC 3520 - awsome 3rd party firmeware support - i own one and love it! dont go lite on - i have read nothing but bad reviews on them and their "quality" of burns. __________________ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© The trouble with life is there’s no background music ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Life isnt short, you're just dead for too long©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ADD YOUR STEAM ID TO THE LIST FOR HOURS OF FUN!
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05-17-05, 10:23 PM	#8
dark_15 Internet Expert Senior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Out on the road again...	I have a NEC 3500A, and I've had zero problems with it. Rock solid, and fast burns with zero 'coasters'. I have heard that the 3520 is a step above the the 3500A... So, I can bet that the 3520 would be an excellent choice. Hope that helps! __________________ JNCIE-SEC #69, JNCIS-SSL, JNCIS-AC, JNCIA-IDP, JNCIA-WX HEAT Register Personal Blog Last edited by dark_15; 05-18-05 at 06:05 AM.
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05-18-05, 12:21 AM	#9
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	3250...? I'm sure you meant 3520 It is not a good option if you want official support for bitsetting and if you want to make quality tests.
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05-18-05, 07:13 AM	Thread Starter #11
EvilAerosolCan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Havelock, NC	Super I guess I'll go with the 3520. That's the one I was really leaning towards anyways. Does anybody have any experience with that Samsung that I linked to up top? Or is it just a POS? Thanks for all the help. __________________ DFI Lanparty SLI-DR AMD X2 4800+ 2x1GB G.Skill HZ WD Raptor 74GB and WD 250GB eVga 7800GTX PC P&C 510 SLI OCForums Metal Club member #555 Last edited by EvilAerosolCan; 05-18-05 at 07:18 AM.
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05-18-05, 10:29 AM	#12
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	Samsung has been having issues... So, not the best bet. As for the 3520, as I told before, it has not bitsetting support and doesn't allow to test burned discs.
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05-19-05, 01:52 PM	#13
Ven0m Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warsaw, Poland	Recently, I bought Benq DW1620 Pro and I'm -=PLEASED=-. It's good, fast, has great software and nice firmware hacks (MCSE). It can read disks nicely too - burnt full DVDs <5 minutes and slows down, when you watch movies.
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05-20-05, 08:32 PM	#15
adelphia83 Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. Charles, Missouri	One more vote for the NEC ND-3520A. It does detect C2 errors, and can support bitsetting through the use of 3rd party firmware. I've used both the 2510A, and 3520A. Rock solid reliablity, quiet, and excellent burns. You'll want the 3rd party firmware regardless (even with most drives) to eliminate the "riplock" (reduces speed while ripping discs), and to support bitsetting. __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 830 (6mb cache) @ 291 x 13.5 = 3.91 ghz Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3p AMD 770 Motherboard 8gb (4 x 2) Mushkin DDR3 - 1333 @ DDR3 - 1552 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 1GB Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 128GB SSD HiPro 700W PSU Ubuntu 11.10 / Win7 x64[/size]
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05-21-05, 10:50 AM	#17
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	For warranty reasons, of course.
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05-21-05, 03:13 PM	#19
Hirlix Member Join Date: Apr 2005	Whenever a successfull one is possible. If not...:P
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