3700+ or 3800+

orionzbelt1 · 05-26-05, 12:58 PM

Im just about to upgrade my system buy getting a AMD 64 and have gone for a MSI KV8 Neo 2 because i got the motherboard very cheap from a friend and i have a x800 i recently purchased on AGP and would loose to much cash by going for PCIE and the wouldnt be much performce increase.

I have decieded to get a 3800+ Venice Core but i have been looking around and found that the 3700+ San Diego Core has 1Meg of L2 cache and the 3800+ only has 512k but the 3800 is 200mhz faster.

Can anyone help me make a disison on this

infinitevalence · 05-26-05, 01:03 PM

Yeah go for the 3700 and overclock it the 200mhz or more.

huey · 05-26-05, 01:04 PM

1meg of l2>200mhz

AEsnowboarding · 05-26-05, 02:41 PM

3700+ .

Tiesto · 05-26-05, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by huey

1meg of l2>200mhz

wrong.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2429&p=8
Notice a 3800+ with 512k and 4000+ with 1mb are within .01 to .03 of each other on all the Workstation benchmarks, but the 4000+ and FX-55, same cache, only difference is 200mhz more, makes .75 to almost a full point difference.

Even when it comes to gaming, for some games, its about same difference in FPS between 512kb Cache difference, and 200mhz difference, and in other games, the 200mhz gives a much bigger boost. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2429&p=6

so enough with the rhetoric and bring on some FACTS, if you still insist 512k cache makes that much of a difference.

I'd go with a 3800+ Venice anyday over the 3700+ SD.

Cyrix_2k · 05-26-05, 03:06 PM

I'd go with the 3700+ myself. Gotta love that cache

Tiesto · 05-26-05, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrix_2k

I'd go with the 3700+ myself. Gotta love that cache

you just love the word. 'cash'. sounds so rich.

Gautam · 05-26-05, 03:29 PM

No point in getting the Venice over the Diego, seeing as the two will end up at equal speeds anyways. The cache adds a responsiveness in daily usage which synthetic benchmarks cannot pick up. There's no hard proof of this, but nearly everyone that's switched from 512k to 1024k would agree.

fldrice · 05-26-05, 03:36 PM

I say get the 3700+. Otherwise, you're better off getting a 3200+ venice and OCing it.

BrutalDrew · 05-26-05, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AEsnowboarding

3700+ .

Despotes · 05-26-05, 04:15 PM

3700+ no question. Easily oc to at least 2.7.

orionzbelt1 · 05-27-05, 12:51 AM

Just thought i would mention i wont be Ocing the chip at all and will be partnering it with some OCZ 2-2-25 memory

05-26-05, 12:58 PM	Thread Starter #1
orionzbelt1 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: ESSEX UK	3700+ or 3800+ Im just about to upgrade my system buy getting a AMD 64 and have gone for a MSI KV8 Neo 2 because i got the motherboard very cheap from a friend and i have a x800 i recently purchased on AGP and would loose to much cash by going for PCIE and the wouldnt be much performce increase. I have decieded to get a 3800+ Venice Core but i have been looking around and found that the 3700+ San Diego Core has 1Meg of L2 cache and the 3800+ only has 512k but the 3800 is 200mhz faster. Can anyone help me make a disison on this
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05-26-05, 01:03 PM	#2
infinitevalence Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nashville	Yeah go for the 3700 and overclock it the 200mhz or more.
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05-26-05, 01:04 PM	#3
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AEsnowboarding Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Folding In Minnesota	3700+ .
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05-26-05, 03:29 PM	#8
Gautam Senior Benchmark Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hillsboro, OR	No point in getting the Venice over the Diego, seeing as the two will end up at equal speeds anyways. The cache adds a responsiveness in daily usage which synthetic benchmarks cannot pick up. There's no hard proof of this, but nearly everyone that's switched from 512k to 1024k would agree. __________________ El<(')>Maxi: I still have your board...and I'm afraid I lost your address so I can't send it back...and my pm box is broken...and I can't remember where the PO is anyway
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05-26-05, 03:36 PM	#9
fldrice Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UCI/Newport Coast	I say get the 3700+. Otherwise, you're better off getting a 3200+ venice and OCing it. __________________ A64 4200+ X2 @ 2600mhz 1.425vcore \|DFI NF4 SLI-DR EXPERT\|2GB G.SKILL F1-4000HZ 3-4-4-10 1T @DDR520 w/ 2.3vdimm\| 2x Maxtor 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9\| 2x BFG 7800GTX w/ AC Accelero X1\| Swiftech MCW6000 w/ MCP350 & MCR120\|OCZ Powerstream 470watt\|SB Audigy(Audigy 2 ZS hack)\| MY HEATWARE
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Despotes Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maine, USA	3700+ no question. Easily oc to at least 2.7. __________________ ASUS P8P67 DELUXE 2600K@4.5 1.27v Antec Kuhler H2O 920 G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB Asus 5870 74Gb Raptor/250GbHD/WD6400WD1000 X-Fi Platinum Silverstone Zeus 850 Dell 2405FPW Klipsch 5.1 Ultra's Lian Li PC73-SLB
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05-27-05, 12:51 AM	Thread Starter #12
orionzbelt1 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: ESSEX UK	Just thought i would mention i wont be Ocing the chip at all and will be partnering it with some OCZ 2-2-25 memory Last edited by orionzbelt1; 05-27-05 at 12:26 PM.
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