reading memory

noob_ass · 05-30-05, 01:46 PM

Is there a programme to lets the user see whats running in his memory?

klingens · 05-30-05, 01:47 PM

press ""ctrl+shift+esc"

noob_ass · 05-30-05, 02:06 PM

mhh...

thats not memory.

klingens · 05-30-05, 02:20 PM

So my tasks don't run in my memory? Makes me wonder why I buy it in the first place. Thanks for helping me save money next time I buy a PC. Thanks!

noob_ass · 05-30-05, 02:24 PM

?

So is there a programme that allowes the user to see whats she/he is running in their memory.

klingens · 05-30-05, 03:19 PM

Yes, it's called a debugger.
Happy learning assembly language

noob_ass · 05-30-05, 03:28 PM

link.

klingens · 05-30-05, 04:05 PM

http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html

mccoyn · 05-31-05, 07:35 AM

I don't think you understand. All programs run in memory when they run. All programs that are running are listed in the task manager under the processes tab. Therefore, all programs running in memory are listed in the task manager. There is even a menu option to show how much memory each process is using. How is this not an answer to your question? If this doesn't show you what you are looking for can you enlighten us as to what you are looking for?

noob_ass · 05-31-05, 09:44 AM

If you run a programme then exit the programme, that programme is still in the memory but isnt in the task manager because its isnt running.

klingens · 05-31-05, 10:00 AM

No it's no. DLLs are often locked a few seconds longer after the DLL using program is already closed, but that's about it. after a few seconds they're unlocked again as they should.

noob_ass · 05-31-05, 10:35 AM

ok ok, Do you know a source code for a calculator.

Kevin007 · 05-31-05, 11:24 AM

processes?

klingens · 05-31-05, 11:30 AM

Quote:

ok ok, Do you know a source code for a calculator.

Yes. http://packages.debian.org/unstable/math/calc

9mmCensor · 05-31-05, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noob_ass

If you run a programme then exit the programme, that programme is still in the memory but isnt in the task manager because its isnt running.

Like a memory leak?

When a program is written (properly) memory is allocated, then used then de allocated (freed up).

JigPu · 05-31-05, 05:49 PM

...What exactly are you getting at? What I thought of when reading was a program which can give hex dumps of RAM (I don't know of any off the top of my head). This would let you see what's in RAM at that moment, though you wouldn't have any clue what was "running", since the data you see could be programs or data...

JigPu

Cluster · 06-01-05, 08:49 PM

Any properly built OS wont let you just randomly read memory. You'd need to know kernel offsets, program offsets and data offsets along with what is stack and what isnt.

If you simply use C itself, you can access random memory, though like i say, any properly built OS would seg fault if you did this. The only way to read all the raw memory is to get into kernel mode, beyond any and all permissions and do a memory dump.

But like was stated, itd be a hex dump, you wouldnt be able to make any sense out of it as it would all look the same. The OS handles what goes where, and simply allowing any application to read its memory is how exploits are born.

noob_ass · 06-02-05, 11:47 AM

k thx

Another question is "If i have a number of words in my code is there a way to make a search feature so i enter "dog" and it says if the world is in the list.

conga · 06-02-05, 06:28 PM

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klingens Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Xanadu	Yes, it's called a debugger. Happy learning assembly language
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noob_ass Registered Join Date: May 2005	link.
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klingens Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Xanadu	http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html
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05-31-05, 07:35 AM	#9
mccoyn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan, USA	I don't think you understand. All programs run in memory when they run. All programs that are running are listed in the task manager under the processes tab. Therefore, all programs running in memory are listed in the task manager. There is even a menu option to show how much memory each process is using. How is this not an answer to your question? If this doesn't show you what you are looking for can you enlighten us as to what you are looking for?
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noob_ass Registered Join Date: May 2005	If you run a programme then exit the programme, that programme is still in the memory but isnt in the task manager because its isnt running.
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klingens Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Xanadu	No it's no. DLLs are often locked a few seconds longer after the DLL using program is already closed, but that's about it. after a few seconds they're unlocked again as they should.
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Cluster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canuckistan	Any properly built OS wont let you just randomly read memory. You'd need to know kernel offsets, program offsets and data offsets along with what is stack and what isnt. If you simply use C itself, you can access random memory, though like i say, any properly built OS would seg fault if you did this. The only way to read all the raw memory is to get into kernel mode, beyond any and all permissions and do a memory dump. But like was stated, itd be a hex dump, you wouldnt be able to make any sense out of it as it would all look the same. The OS handles what goes where, and simply allowing any application to read its memory is how exploits are born. __________________ Multi VM/SMP Folding Guide \| Ram Timing Guide \| Folding working on Alzheimer's cure GPU Countdown to new years - Fold for a cure! Asus M3A79-T ~ Phenom 9850 ~ Cell Shock DDR-1066 ~ HIS HD4850 Phenom 9850 Rank : PiFast (1st) \| wPrime32 (1st) \| wPrime1024 (1st) \| SPi1M (1st) \| SPi32M (2nd)
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