I decided to rais the bar on extream!

XeonStrikeForce · 06-16-05, 01:27 AM

Well finaly got fed up with fans all togeather ! So I got my self a phase change unit for free just needs some fixing up.

I doen't think 25000BTU/H is too extream but thats me

Pics tomorrow!

LONG LIVE R290 and Free equip !

XeonStrikeForce · 06-16-05, 11:06 AM

non you have a sense of humour, I figured it'd be good for a luagh come on!

9mmCensor · 06-16-05, 11:09 AM

I dont get it...

XeonStrikeForce · 06-16-05, 12:09 PM

using a 25k BTU/h unit for a computer, is simply out ragus let alone extreme your average A/C unit is in the 5000 range. but using a central Building(Read as Mall or small apartment building) A/C for a home computer it was more of a subtle implied joke Ah well,

greenman100 · 06-16-05, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by XeonStrikeForce

using a 25k BTU/h unit for a computer, is simply out ragus let alone extreme your average A/C unit is in the 5000 range. but using a central Building(Read as Mall or small apartment building) A/C for a home computer it was more of a subtle implied joke Ah well,

...but a 25k BTU/h won't get it any colder than a 5k....the limiting factor is the boiling point of the refridgerant

XeonStrikeForce · 06-16-05, 12:50 PM

yeppers and the size of the EVap for a given CFM, but still using a system of such capasity and size is insane to the point of being funny to even sugest it (Well in my books any way)

Well since the humour was totaly missed I'll get to the actual point. What CAN I do with such a system? they told me the condensor is badly damaged (what ever their def is of bad) So I'm hoping it may be salvagable if so should I rebuild it or just go with the plans to break it down and sell/trade the parts off ?

Aphex_Tom_9 · 06-16-05, 11:34 PM

that's just too much of a unit to be feasible for cpu cooling...
unless you wanted to make like, a 4 evap system for a dual-cpu board with SLI or use it for cooling multiple comps or something...

f00t · 06-17-05, 07:19 AM

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...but a 25k BTU/h won't get it any colder than a 5k....the limiting factor is the boiling point of the refridgerant

actually, the bigger the compressor, the bigger the vaccuum it can pull. the bigger the vaccuum, the lower the boiling point of the refrigerant will go.

the boiling point of r290 is about -42C but i have seen some lerge rotaries get below -60C with it

greenman100 · 06-17-05, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by f00t

actually, the bigger the compressor, the bigger the vaccuum it can pull. the bigger the vaccuum, the lower the boiling point of the refrigerant will go.

the boiling point of r290 is about -42C but i have seen some lerge rotaries get below -60C with it

you are assuming he can tune the system properly

man_utd · 06-17-05, 11:21 AM

If he can find someone with the right gauges and tools, and possibly a little bit of hvac knowledge, I don't see why he couldn't.

f00t · 06-17-05, 03:34 PM

im thiking he has a set of guages and some propane. you tune a dd for the load that it will handle and, when you first charge it, it will probably run in a vacuum, if not enough refrigerant has been added.

knowing how much of a vacuum a 1hp, 12000btu, rotary can pull, im assuming that he will have to a tons of refrigerant to bring the system out of vacuum, if at all seeing how strong the compressor is.

matttheniceguy · 06-17-05, 11:48 PM

R290 record anyone? Tuning would be a bit weird due to the very large vacume, but I'm pretty sure if you just used a bit longer cap tube than normal, you could have some VERY cold propane. It's compleatly unrealistic for a daily rig, but as a "wonder what this will do" project, it has potential.

Joe Camel · 06-18-05, 12:01 AM

damn i want to jump into the DIY DD

ive sweat a water (heater) pipe, soldered the barbs into a rad or two, and use a TIG welder to weld aluminum (arc and a stick) @ work....

think i can do it?

you can see (link in sig) what ive done with water cooling...im sure i could create some kind of phase change monster

matttheniceguy · 06-18-05, 01:20 AM

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think i can do it?

No problem. The only thing you need are the right tools and a lot of reading. Search this section a bit, and the vapor phase chage section at xtremesystems

XeonStrikeForce · 06-20-05, 03:11 PM

Oh I can do it you'll be amazed at what some insanity will do with a natural nack at tinkering can do for some one. I all ready built and run a home made R290 AC unit and built my own vacuume side guage to do it (Used a percision oil filled guage) The guy STILL hasn't droped the unit off I'm starting to think I'm geting screwd here ! he said it would be here three days ago and here we are

well Here I am a miffed & disapointed in people pony grrrr.

Ah well show up at his work and strip the thing there en then !

06-16-05, 01:27 AM	Thread Starter #1
XeonStrikeForce Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, BC, Gibsons	I decided to raise the bar on extreame! Well finaly got fed up with fans all togeather ! So I got my self a phase change unit for free just needs some fixing up. I doen't think 25000BTU/H is too extream but thats me Pics tomorrow! LONG LIVE R290 and Free equip ! Last edited by XeonStrikeForce; 06-16-05 at 02:49 AM. Reason: spelling
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06-16-05, 11:06 AM	Thread Starter #2
XeonStrikeForce Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, BC, Gibsons	non you have a sense of humour, I figured it'd be good for a luagh come on!
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9mmCensor Disabled Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Banned Camp	I dont get it...
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06-16-05, 12:09 PM	Thread Starter #4
XeonStrikeForce Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, BC, Gibsons	using a 25k BTU/h unit for a computer, is simply out ragus let alone extreme your average A/C unit is in the 5000 range. but using a central Building(Read as Mall or small apartment building) A/C for a home computer it was more of a subtle implied joke Ah well, Last edited by XeonStrikeForce; 06-16-05 at 12:14 PM.
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06-16-05, 12:50 PM	Thread Starter #6
XeonStrikeForce Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, BC, Gibsons	yeppers and the size of the EVap for a given CFM, but still using a system of such capasity and size is insane to the point of being funny to even sugest it (Well in my books any way) Well since the humour was totaly missed I'll get to the actual point. What CAN I do with such a system? they told me the condensor is badly damaged (what ever their def is of bad) So I'm hoping it may be salvagable if so should I rebuild it or just go with the plans to break it down and sell/trade the parts off ?
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06-17-05, 03:34 PM	#11
f00t Member Join Date: Oct 2002	im thiking he has a set of guages and some propane. you tune a dd for the load that it will handle and, when you first charge it, it will probably run in a vacuum, if not enough refrigerant has been added. knowing how much of a vacuum a 1hp, 12000btu, rotary can pull, im assuming that he will have to a tons of refrigerant to bring the system out of vacuum, if at all seeing how strong the compressor is.
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06-17-05, 11:48 PM	#12
matttheniceguy Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada	R290 record anyone? Tuning would be a bit weird due to the very large vacume, but I'm pretty sure if you just used a bit longer cap tube than normal, you could have some VERY cold propane. It's compleatly unrealistic for a daily rig, but as a "wonder what this will do" project, it has potential.
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06-20-05, 03:11 PM	Thread Starter #15
XeonStrikeForce Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, BC, Gibsons	Oh I can do it you'll be amazed at what some insanity will do with a natural nack at tinkering can do for some one. I all ready built and run a home made R290 AC unit and built my own vacuume side guage to do it (Used a percision oil filled guage) The guy STILL hasn't droped the unit off I'm starting to think I'm geting screwd here ! he said it would be here three days ago and here we are well Here I am a miffed & disapointed in people pony grrrr. Ah well show up at his work and strip the thing there en then !
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