Removed heatspreader from P4-Northwood

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 02:06 PM

Well, I removed the heatspreader from my Pentium 4 Northwood. I scratched the surface, but it POSTed. I did it because my temperatures were skyrocketing (around 110F, usually it is around 90F), and the contact between the heatsink and CPU was fine. so I figured the contact between the core and the heatspreader was shot. (the heatsink was cold to the touch). The medium they were using was dried out and flaking---I can't imagine it conducting heat...

I have the heat spreader in acetone to clean it off, I will make sure it is level, and put it back -- after applying some AS5, I will put it back, attaching it with super glue. If you want me to post pictures, I will.

Hamm3r · 07-05-05, 02:17 PM

Post some load temps after you have done that.

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 02:21 PM

Too late for pictures, BTW... I just applied the AS5 and put the superglue in place. I am going to let it set for a while, before using it.

shellshock · 07-05-05, 02:24 PM

damn I wanted to see the inside and the thermal compund they were using. I also have a p4 northie

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 02:47 PM

Strange... while POSTing, it stops POSTing on the list of components once it reaches ACPI Controller...

shellshock · 07-05-05, 02:51 PM

so you cant get into windows? is your temps in BIOS ok?

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 02:58 PM

They are fine. I had to reset my CMOS... then it succeeded. I am right now overclocked from 100mhz FSB to 133, IE, 2.4ghz. Also, that makes my RAM at over DDR-400 (they are DDR-333 by default). I will run Prime-95 and get some load temps.

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 03:20 PM

I hate to say it, but the temperatures do not seem to be signifigantly different.

fAlCoNNiAn · 07-05-05, 03:23 PM

might be a reason on why my 3.2e was/is throttling, but i dont have enough balls to take the ihs off.

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 03:26 PM

Yeah... you have to be VERY careful. Back in the Socket 423 days, I killed 2 (two, dos, zwei) CPUs trying this. I was more careful this time, but if those scratched had been even a little deeper, I could have killed it.

wannaoc · 07-05-05, 04:19 PM

I take it you can't take the heat spreader off again? I would have just left it off, I'm sure it would have helped your temps.

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 04:20 PM

The heatsink would not have made contact with the core

fAlCoNNiAn · 07-05-05, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AntmanMike

The heatsink would not have made contact with the core

the sp94 wouldnt have made contact? i kind of doubt that.

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 06:31 PM

Well, it's designed to make contact where the heatspreader is... I would probably need to file down the screws.

ShadowPho · 07-05-05, 07:53 PM

110 F? THATS 40 C!!!!!!!!!
My Prescot likes going 158F

Mr.Guvernment · 07-05-05, 08:20 PM

does super glue eat through plastics easily ?

fAlCoNNiAn · 07-05-05, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntmanMike

Well, it's designed to make contact where the heatspreader is... I would probably need to file down the screws.

yes i guess you would have to file the screws, but just alittle bit.

AntmanMike · 07-05-05, 08:52 PM

I like keeping my temperatures down... in my opinion, 150F is insanely high, and something I wish to avoid.

AFAIK, Super Glue doesn't eat through plastics... I suppose it itself is a plastic...

busta` · 07-05-05, 11:36 PM

If I remove the IHS from my P4 640 and I try to mount the heatsink on the actual DIE, would I have to make a little shim surrounding the DIE to prevent putting on too much pressure? I'm just worried that if I do this, I'll crush my core while putting the heatsink back on.

EDIT

Did some reading, and I would probably need to design my own little shim to prevent my waterblock from crushing the core. For 3°C-4°C, I don't really see the risk of killing my CPU a risk worth taking. Not to me, at least.

07-05-05, 02:06 PM	Thread Starter #1
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	Removed heatspreader from P4-Northwood Well, I removed the heatspreader from my Pentium 4 Northwood. I scratched the surface, but it POSTed. I did it because my temperatures were skyrocketing (around 110F, usually it is around 90F), and the contact between the heatsink and CPU was fine. so I figured the contact between the core and the heatspreader was shot. (the heatsink was cold to the touch). The medium they were using was dried out and flaking---I can't imagine it conducting heat... I have the heat spreader in acetone to clean it off, I will make sure it is level, and put it back -- after applying some AS5, I will put it back, attaching it with super glue. If you want me to post pictures, I will. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 02:17 PM	#2
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07-05-05, 02:21 PM	Thread Starter #3
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	Too late for pictures, BTW... I just applied the AS5 and put the superglue in place. I am going to let it set for a while, before using it. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 02:24 PM	#4
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07-05-05, 02:47 PM	Thread Starter #5
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	Strange... while POSTing, it stops POSTing on the list of components once it reaches ACPI Controller... __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 02:51 PM	#6
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07-05-05, 02:58 PM	Thread Starter #7
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	They are fine. I had to reset my CMOS... then it succeeded. I am right now overclocked from 100mhz FSB to 133, IE, 2.4ghz. Also, that makes my RAM at over DDR-400 (they are DDR-333 by default). I will run Prime-95 and get some load temps. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 03:20 PM	Thread Starter #8
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	I hate to say it, but the temperatures do not seem to be signifigantly different. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 03:23 PM	#9
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07-05-05, 03:26 PM	Thread Starter #10
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	Yeah... you have to be VERY careful. Back in the Socket 423 days, I killed 2 (two, dos, zwei) CPUs trying this. I was more careful this time, but if those scratched had been even a little deeper, I could have killed it. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 04:19 PM	#11
wannaoc Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Buried in UPS packages	I take it you can't take the heat spreader off again? I would have just left it off, I'm sure it would have helped your temps.
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07-05-05, 04:20 PM	Thread Starter #12
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	The heatsink would not have made contact with the core __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 06:31 PM	Thread Starter #14
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	Well, it's designed to make contact where the heatspreader is... I would probably need to file down the screws. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 07:53 PM	#15
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07-05-05, 08:52 PM	Thread Starter #18
AntmanMike Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.	I like keeping my temperatures down... in my opinion, 150F is insanely high, and something I wish to avoid. AFAIK, Super Glue doesn't eat through plastics... I suppose it itself is a plastic... __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K Asus Sabertooth P67 2x4gb G.Skill PC14900 EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580) 4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10 Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
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07-05-05, 11:36 PM	#19
busta` Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly, PA	If I remove the IHS from my P4 640 and I try to mount the heatsink on the actual DIE, would I have to make a little shim surrounding the DIE to prevent putting on too much pressure? I'm just worried that if I do this, I'll crush my core while putting the heatsink back on. EDIT Did some reading, and I would probably need to design my own little shim to prevent my waterblock from crushing the core. For 3°C-4°C, I don't really see the risk of killing my CPU a risk worth taking. Not to me, at least.
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