9500 pro vs 9600 xt

cwhits · 08-09-05, 12:34 AM

what is better?

Cheator · 08-09-05, 07:27 AM

I would have to say the 9600xt. The 9500 pro is pretty much a dead match for the 9600 pro.

Goateh · 08-09-05, 07:32 AM

Actually the 9500pro is about a match for the XT in most cases too :S

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...015/index.html :E

Cheator · 08-09-05, 07:37 AM

No ways... that aint a bad card. I was going by this review http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...cked/page4.asp

Goateh · 08-09-05, 07:52 AM

I luiff my 9500pro. Just wish the damn thing would OC, I think i broke something :/

Each place reviews differently though so yeah, each to their own

Yuriman · 08-09-05, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheator

No ways... that aint a bad card. I was going by this review http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...cked/page4.asp

Make sure you are comparing the non-overclocked 9500pro vs the non-oc'd 9600pro... in the case it beats it by a good bit in many tests.

stereo555 · 08-09-05, 10:22 AM

I just did a few comparisons last week (ATI site) as which one has better specs (as Iam upgrading a old workstation's v/card) ....

I found the 9500 Pro to have 8 pipelines vs the 9600 "series" only has 4 pipelines . I would think the 9500 Pro would be a better choice just for that reason . Hence the reason I just purchased a 9500 Pro for the old workstation this week .
Seems the 9500 Pro is a closer match to the 9700 Pro over the 9600 series of cards .

9600 "series" SPECS
9500 Pro SPECS

Yuriman · 08-09-05, 10:28 AM

The 9500pro has slightly more fill rate than a 9600xt, but it also has less memory bandwidth. I'd say both cards are about even, but I'd favor the 9600 since it tends to overclock to a higher speed (according to futuremark), but also because it runs a lot cooler. The 9600's are .13 micron vs .15, and don't require a molex.

Dan0512 · 08-10-05, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuriman

The 9500pro has slightly more fill rate than a 9600xt, but it also has less memory bandwidth. I'd say both cards are about even, but I'd favor the 9600 since it tends to overclock to a higher speed (according to futuremark), but also because it runs a lot cooler. The 9600's are .13 micron vs .15, and don't require a molex.

Exactly! Half the pipes but twice the clock. Both are pretty equal, but i would buy the 9600xt cause they run cooler like written above.

Dan

HousERaT · 08-10-05, 04:19 PM

overclocked the 9500 pro would spank the 9600xt all day and night. I'm surprised how much credit you folks are giving a 4 pipe card. Considering the 9500pro is an old version 9700pro this comparison shouldn't even be close.

Yuriman · 08-10-05, 05:11 PM

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Considering the 9500pro is an old version 9700pro this comparison shouldn't even be close.

?? What does that mean?

Anyway... wasn't the 9600xt supposed to be on par with the 9700? I know in practice, it turned out to be slower, but it was originaly intended to replace the 9500pro.

t_biggs · 08-10-05, 10:54 PM

He means the 9500 Pro is the 128-bit version of the 9700 Pro.

If you are looking at taking a gamble, try to find a 256-bit 9500 non-Pro and softmod it to 8 pipes. If the pipes aren't broken, then you have yourself a full 9700 Pro (or maybe its just 9700... It was so long ago, I don't remember, but you have yourself a better card than a 9500 Pro for cheaper.)

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stereo555 Overclocking is music to my soul Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Menifee , Calif	I just did a few comparisons last week (ATI site) as which one has better specs (as Iam upgrading a old workstation's v/card) .... I found the 9500 Pro to have 8 pipelines vs the 9600 "series" only has 4 pipelines . I would think the 9500 Pro would be a better choice just for that reason . Hence the reason I just purchased a 9500 Pro for the old workstation this week . Seems the 9500 Pro is a closer match to the 9700 Pro over the 9600 series of cards . 9600 "series" SPECS 9500 Pro SPECS __________________ * i7 920 D0 @ 3.9 - Evga X58 3-Way SLI (758) * Sandisk Extreme 240gb * Seagate 410AS 2x250's-Raid0 - Samsung F3 1TB - 24gb Mushkin 1333 - Gigabyte Windforce GTX 670 - CM Cosmos 1010/Corsair HX1050 - Windows 7 Ultimate * Hanns-G HZ281HPB 27.5" - LG WH12LS30 Blu Burner - Samsung SH-S223Q - X-Fi Titanium - Klipsch 4.1's/Altec center channel ~ "Random segments of code and ghosts in my machine" ~ Heatware Join your overclocking frag buddies at [OCG] (aka: [OCG]w00ps ) Last edited by stereo555; 08-09-05 at 10:28 AM.
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Yuriman Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The OCFORUMS	The 9500pro has slightly more fill rate than a 9600xt, but it also has less memory bandwidth. I'd say both cards are about even, but I'd favor the 9600 since it tends to overclock to a higher speed (according to futuremark), but also because it runs a lot cooler. The 9600's are .13 micron vs .15, and don't require a molex.
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HousERaT Senior Air Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Imladris	overclocked the 9500 pro would spank the 9600xt all day and night. I'm surprised how much credit you folks are giving a 4 pipe card. Considering the 9500pro is an old version 9700pro this comparison shouldn't even be close. __________________ CM-690 \| Maximus Formula \| Ballistix D9GMH 2GB - 4-4-4-10 - 2.2v (active cooled) \| E6850 @4GHz (L719B) 602 Bios 500x8 - 1.475v \| Ultra 120 Extreme \| 2x HD3870 840/1300 \| Lite-On 52327s CDRW \| WD 74GB - Raptor HDD \| Corsair 620HX PSU \| Windows XP Pro sp2 \| Support the OC Benchmarking Team The HD 4870/50 Thread The HD 3870/50 Thread The X1900XT/XTX Thread X800GTO² Thread Heatware Make friends with your "FAST" - 90K 01SE - 77K 03 - 29K 05 - 19K 06 - 274K AM3 - single card all air baby!
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t_biggs Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin	He means the 9500 Pro is the 128-bit version of the 9700 Pro. If you are looking at taking a gamble, try to find a 256-bit 9500 non-Pro and softmod it to 8 pipes. If the pipes aren't broken, then you have yourself a full 9700 Pro (or maybe its just 9700... It was so long ago, I don't remember, but you have yourself a better card than a 9500 Pro for cheaper.)
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