[freakystyley]

I have a Palomino Athlon XP 2100+ that I want to swap for a 3200+ and then use the 2100+ in place of my Duron 1 Ghz. is there enough performance boost to merit the $150 investment?
I have not had much luck with OC'ing these systems, only a few mhz on the fsb before trouble happens.

I really do not want to upgrade with new boards, etc - and have pc3200 and pc2700 ram ready to go in each respectively.
THANKS!!

[Quailane]

If you want, buy a mobile barton athlon XP. It doesn't matter which one you get. You can change the multiplier and will overclock better than the 3200+ for half the money. Then put the 2100+ in the rig with the duron.

[freakystyley]

do the mobiles use the same cooling fans and thermal tape as the "desktop" cpu's?
is there a way to know a fake mobile from a real chip? I found this... http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Mobile-Athlo...QQcmdZViewItem or this http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AMD-Mobile-A...QQcmdZViewItem

[FlailBoy]

Originally Posted by Quailane

If you want, buy a mobile barton athlon XP.

Agreed. If you're not going to upgrade the mobo, this is a good choice. What's the mobo the Palomino is in right now?

Ebay is always a crap shoot.

XP-M

4 bucks more and you'll know you're getting a new CPU.

And yes, mobiles can use the same cooling as the desktop versions.

I don't even know where to *begin* telling you what's wrong with 'thermal tape'...

[c627627]

Stay away from eBay mobiles, go with newegg.com instead.

By the way, they use the same cooling as desktop CPUs.

Expect a 700 MHz jump or more with decent cooling from your Palomino, a significant improvement you can really 'feel.'

[freakystyley]

thanks for the help - got my order shipped from newegg, as5 paste, xp-m 2600+, and a 1gig kit from ocz gold 2-2-2-5 cas 2. should get me started. the board is a mach speed viper V881DAS http://www.machspeed.com/v_v881das.htm (with a "magic" setting allowing easy oc stepping) I got locally pretty cheap, the other one is an ecs k7s5a? ver 1 or something like that. never had much luck with anything other than best settings in the bios. on another note, i used the term thermal tape incorrectly instead of Phase Change Material (PCM). my bad.

[c627627]

I know you specifically said you didn't want to replace your board but others reading this, the 2500+ Socket 754 Sempron is here and it's only $59:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ubmit=Property

There are some good 754 mobos out there for cheap, if you don't want to get the DFI Lanparty 250GB UT, there are some cheap decent overclockers for $58 like VNF3-250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...T=Motherboards

DFI Lanparty 250GB is $99 but today they have a used refurb DFI Lanparty 250GB for only $54:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Go.x=0&Go.y=0


These should outperform Athlon XPs even when XPs run at higher MHz frequency plus with revision E6 they are now AMD64 enabled just like Athlon 64s.

EDIT:
The 7x multiplier 2500+ has may be a bit of a problem on some mobos.

Originally Posted by electrorcamd

It is a problem. Most of the nforce3 motherboards seem to only go a little past 300 htt. That would only give you 2100MHz, and the cpu should be able to do more being a slightly disabled Venice.

Also, the models below the 3000+ do not have Cool n Quiet. IIRC, there are some motherboards that require Cool n Quiet to change the vcore, so overclocking may be limited on those boards.
The 2600+ and the 3000+ both have only 128KB L2 cache, but that usually does not noticeably affect performance.