Redline, way to go

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 05:41 PM

I got a little bored here so I decided to pull the trigger and try out how much XP3200 Redline kit is able to handle.

I fed these modules with only 3,6volts and here's the result.

282MHz
283MHz
284MHz

And I haven't even started yet, lets just wait for the colder weathers

RedDragonXXX · 09-20-05, 06:17 PM

Not to bad but can you pull RAS to CAS on 2 and lower CAS to 1.5?

Also was this done at 2T command rate?

HousERaT · 09-20-05, 06:21 PM

Not bad...... Let's see how far you can take them using 2-2-2-5 1T?

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 06:23 PM

It is all with 1T command rate, I will do some more benching soon and I will provide bandwidth benchmark with it + A64T shot. I can't get tRCD to 2 no matter what I do, it's only possible with 200MHz and with 3,3V so I let it be alone.

I am also very limited with my Venice's memory controller. This baby wont stay stable at 2,7GHz with 1,7V or even with 1,75V

Just wait couple minutes until my room gets cold enough and I will provide a few benches more

HousERaT · 09-20-05, 06:24 PM

280 with cas 2 is still darn good. Looks like some good sticks you got there.

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 06:27 PM

Actually this is very early version of XP3200

I just need to wait for ~10mins until I can start. Using water cooling and my CPU idles at 16 degrees

RedDragonXXX · 09-20-05, 06:55 PM

That is very good, but it would be 10 times better if you could push RAS to CAS to 2 since that is a performance giver in bandwith bench, 3D Mark...

Even though those are still nice results considering that it's running on 1T. Also I'm assuming that you are active cooling these or did you put on some of them new HS

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 07:17 PM

Okey Gentlemen, here's the 283MHz and this includes the A64Tweaker shot too. Going for more

RedDragonXXX · 09-20-05, 07:23 PM

Good to see that you got that CAS down. See if you can go for higher freq eventhough you cand lower RAStoCAS.

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 07:39 PM

Ok, so I provided that 283MHz, why not to provide 284MHz too.

Well, as I stated above that my Venice is not as good as it could be, I think the memory controller is what keeps me this low.

RAMMAN · 09-20-05, 07:45 PM

link doesnt work.

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 07:46 PM

Works now

RAMMAN · 09-20-05, 07:59 PM

why is the refresh rate (tref) set differently to the memclk freq?

Tyreal · 09-20-05, 08:08 PM

WOoooOOO!!!
so the redlines are hot stuff!
Greattt.... I was planinng on getting those hot sticks for my new rig and now its confirmed.

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 08:09 PM

Refresh rate and memclk frequencies doesn't have to walk hand-in-hand

RedDragonXXX · 09-20-05, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebbo

Well, as I stated above that my Venice is not as good as it could be, I think the memory controller is what keeps me this low.

I don't think that it's your CPU since Venice are know for having good mem controller much better then previous Winnies.

I think that you have reached the top but if you were to loosen up those timings you could squeeze few more MHz out of it, but what would be the point of that since these are UTT's (if you know what I mean)

Zebbo · 09-20-05, 09:23 PM

You are correct there, Venice's does have better memory controller than Winchester's does. But just an pure example here, if I would get an FX -series CPU now, there is still possibility I might get better memory overclock for a less voltage than I do with my Venice.

But this is really something we cannot discuss cause I don't have an FX so that's as far as it goes

And did I or didn't I hit wall here, well, you never know did I left an headroom there to show you guys some better results later

largon · 09-21-05, 02:31 AM

Zebbo,
Eikö tRCD tosiaan mene kahteen? Entäs tWTR ja tRTW, meneekö 1?

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Originally Posted by RedDragonXXX

Not to bad but can you pull RAS to CAS on 2 and lower CAS to 1.5?

Also was this done at 2T command rate?

1. CAS1.5 = CAS2. A64 doesn't support CAS1.5.
2. If the ram can do xxxMHz @ 2T it can do the same @ 1T. Memcontroller is the only thing that matters when command rate is 1T. It's simply not an ram issue.

RAMMAN · 09-21-05, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by largon

2. If the ram can do xxxMHz @ 2T it can do the same @ 1T. Memcontroller is the only thing that matters when command rate is 1T. It's simply not an ram issue.

what if a memory controller doesnt like a particular type of ram? or if the 2 sticks are not in the right slots?

largon · 09-21-05, 04:39 AM

RAMMAN,
What do you mean? In both cases you mentioned it's not memory's fault, but mcontroller's.

09-20-05, 05:41 PM	Thread Starter #1
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	Redline, way to go I got a little bored here so I decided to pull the trigger and try out how much XP3200 Redline kit is able to handle. I fed these modules with only 3,6volts and here's the result. 282MHz 283MHz 284MHz And I haven't even started yet, lets just wait for the colder weathers Last edited by Zebbo; 09-20-05 at 07:42 PM.
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09-20-05, 06:17 PM	#2
RedDragonXXX Senior RAM Pornographer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Not to bad but can you pull RAS to CAS on 2 and lower CAS to 1.5? Also was this done at 2T command rate?
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09-20-05, 06:21 PM	#3
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09-20-05, 06:23 PM	Thread Starter #4
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	It is all with 1T command rate, I will do some more benching soon and I will provide bandwidth benchmark with it + A64T shot. I can't get tRCD to 2 no matter what I do, it's only possible with 200MHz and with 3,3V so I let it be alone. I am also very limited with my Venice's memory controller. This baby wont stay stable at 2,7GHz with 1,7V or even with 1,75V Just wait couple minutes until my room gets cold enough and I will provide a few benches more
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09-20-05, 06:24 PM	#5
HousERaT Senior Air Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Imladris	280 with cas 2 is still darn good. Looks like some good sticks you got there. __________________ CM-690 \| Maximus Formula \| Ballistix D9GMH 2GB - 4-4-4-10 - 2.2v (active cooled) \| E6850 @4GHz (L719B) 602 Bios 500x8 - 1.475v \| Ultra 120 Extreme \| 2x HD3870 840/1300 \| Lite-On 52327s CDRW \| WD 74GB - Raptor HDD \| Corsair 620HX PSU \| Windows XP Pro sp2 \| Support the OC Benchmarking Team The HD 4870/50 Thread The HD 3870/50 Thread The X1900XT/XTX Thread X800GTO² Thread Heatware Make friends with your "FAST" - 90K 01SE - 77K 03 - 29K 05 - 19K 06 - 274K AM3 - single card all air baby!
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09-20-05, 06:27 PM	Thread Starter #6
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	Actually this is very early version of XP3200 I just need to wait for ~10mins until I can start. Using water cooling and my CPU idles at 16 degrees
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09-20-05, 06:55 PM	#7
RedDragonXXX Senior RAM Pornographer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL	That is very good, but it would be 10 times better if you could push RAS to CAS to 2 since that is a performance giver in bandwith bench, 3D Mark... Even though those are still nice results considering that it's running on 1T. Also I'm assuming that you are active cooling these or did you put on some of them new HS
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09-20-05, 07:17 PM	Thread Starter #8
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	Okey Gentlemen, here's the 283MHz and this includes the A64Tweaker shot too. Going for more
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09-20-05, 07:23 PM	#9
RedDragonXXX Senior RAM Pornographer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Good to see that you got that CAS down. See if you can go for higher freq eventhough you cand lower RAStoCAS. Last edited by RedDragonXXX; 09-21-05 at 07:26 AM.
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09-20-05, 07:39 PM	Thread Starter #10
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	Ok, so I provided that 283MHz, why not to provide 284MHz too. Well, as I stated above that my Venice is not as good as it could be, I think the memory controller is what keeps me this low. Last edited by Zebbo; 09-20-05 at 07:46 PM.
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09-20-05, 07:45 PM	#11
RAMMAN Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: gold coast, australia	link doesnt work. __________________ xfx gtx260 @ 700/1500/1150, core 2 extreme qx9650, 2x1gb crucial ballistix pc2 6400, gigabyte p35-ds3p, 74gb raptor, 750w thermaltake toughpower, 22in lcd and razer deathadder+exactmat.
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09-20-05, 07:46 PM	Thread Starter #12
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	Works now
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09-20-05, 07:59 PM	#13
RAMMAN Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: gold coast, australia	why is the refresh rate (tref) set differently to the memclk freq? __________________ xfx gtx260 @ 700/1500/1150, core 2 extreme qx9650, 2x1gb crucial ballistix pc2 6400, gigabyte p35-ds3p, 74gb raptor, 750w thermaltake toughpower, 22in lcd and razer deathadder+exactmat.
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09-20-05, 08:08 PM	#14
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09-20-05, 08:09 PM	Thread Starter #15
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	Refresh rate and memclk frequencies doesn't have to walk hand-in-hand
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09-20-05, 09:23 PM	Thread Starter #17
Zebbo Mushkin Tech Rep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: End of the Redline	You are correct there, Venice's does have better memory controller than Winchester's does. But just an pure example here, if I would get an FX -series CPU now, there is still possibility I might get better memory overclock for a less voltage than I do with my Venice. But this is really something we cannot discuss cause I don't have an FX so that's as far as it goes And did I or didn't I hit wall here, well, you never know did I left an headroom there to show you guys some better results later
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09-21-05, 04:39 AM	#20
largon Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Suomi Finland	RAMMAN, What do you mean? In both cases you mentioned it's not memory's fault, but mcontroller's.
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