My Rig keeps freezing..:(

G70GT · 12-12-05, 03:24 PM

I recently upgraded to a new computer with PCI-Express.
When I play anything cpu/graphics intensive, the computer freezes and i have to restart.

Here are the specs:
Athlon 64 3000+ Venice @ 1.550v
DFI LANPARTY nF4 Ultra-D
1GB Corsair PC3200 Value Ram
eVGA GeForce 7800GT

I am suspecting the power supply is at fault. It is a rosewill 500w with a 20 to 24 pin adapter.
Is the 24 pin adapter causing some kind of voltage issue? or is the power supply a bad brand?

Romulox · 12-12-05, 03:34 PM

So you went from a agp to a pci-e board? Did you reinstall the operating system during this upgrade. If you change boards with different different chip sets it is best to reinstall or repair the OS. They're many ppl who also think they need to reinstall after a video card upgrade but I've never had a problem.
For the PSU ,I don't think its that. A 500w rosewill should be enough without an Overclock but just to make
sure download speedfan and monitor the voltages.

G70GT · 12-12-05, 03:56 PM

I went from a VIA K8T800 Pro to nForce 4, so i had to reinstall windows.
The CPU is a Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked from 1.8GHz to 2.7GHz.
Also, i should add that the PSU makes squeaking sounds and is very hot.
The 12v line is at 11.78v and the 5v line is at 4.83v

apu318 · 12-12-05, 04:01 PM

Put everything back down to stock clock speeds and try to play games. If it doesn't crash, then you know your overclock is not stable. Most likely that it is your PSU. those voltage are quite low for an overclock of such magnitude. What are your CPU temps like? Could you check your ram and CPU voltage under load with Speedfan? They're probably drooping down severly because of your weak PSU.

ocZer · 12-12-05, 04:14 PM

I agree. Try at stock speeds. What kind of noise is the PSU making? 500W should be enough though. Just make sure it not your OC that's too high.

G70GT · 12-12-05, 08:55 PM

The PSU is making high pitched sqeaks about every half second. It also has a "heated" plastic smell to it. I want to overclock my CPU though. It was stable at 2.7GHz before the switch to the DFI.

Romulox · 12-12-05, 10:00 PM

I didn't realize you where overclocking when I first read the post, I kinda ignored the voltage when I didn't see a speed rating. Those are signs that your PSU is failing. I would suggest lowering the OC to stock for now until you get a new PSU. At this point there isn't any other option If you want to OC with your current setup becuase a OCing pci-e system takes a better quality PSU espically with a 7800. If your PSU is still reacting the way you descibed at stock you should leave the comp off until you get a new PSU. A failing power supply can be bad for your system.

ocZer · 12-13-05, 03:45 AM

That does not sound good at all. If I where in your shoes I would just keep it off and unplug the PSU. Apparantly it's heating up inside, and might just take a few components to it's grave when it fails. You do not want that to happen.

G70GT · 12-13-05, 02:56 PM

Yea, i wouldn't want that to happen. I have been doing some research, and I found the FSP Fortron Blue Storm 500 Watt PSU. Is this power supply any good? It has plenty of good customer reviews.

ocZer · 12-13-05, 04:48 PM

Fortron PSU's are excellent. Several other companys buy from them and stick their name on them. I was about to buy one, but then I went for an Enermax.

Sniper.nkc · 12-14-05, 02:47 PM

I am not sure what MB bios version you have. I had some problem and I flashed my motherboard bios to version 623-3. That solved my problem.

Albaholic · 12-14-05, 02:58 PM

those bluestorm psu's are awesome i wouldnt hesitate to buy another one

G70GT · 12-15-05, 12:55 AM

i have the latest 6/23/05 bios.

Update: It seems to always freeze after 15-20 mins of game play, with the room smelling like "hot" plastic. The PSU hasn't blown yet....

Tiesto · 12-15-05, 06:56 AM

i'm surprised nobody told you this yet:

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10785

DFI specifically says to use 24-pin PSU, not 20pin-to 24-pin converters.

also, Rosewill are POS units. and a POS 500W couldnt keep up with a good 400W power supply. Get something with a proven track record, like an Enermax, Antec, Fortron, Tagan, PC&C. If you get a PSU that's almost half the price of similar units from these companies, than you're getting screwed. you get what you pay for.

fatguy · 12-16-05, 04:35 PM

The smell of hot plastic might be your PWM chip frying...what are you're PWMIC temps?

This is a sure sign that you don't have all 4 power connectors hooked up to the board. All 4 must be connected for stability:

** Image Linked from DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34504) **

G70GT · 12-19-05, 11:55 AM

I'm pretty sure that the plastic smell is coming from the power supply itself.
I have all four power connectors plugged in.
The PWM Temperatures seem normal (115 F)

apu318 · 12-20-05, 05:49 PM

Your PSU is crapping out on you. You will need a new one. If there is one thing you listen to strangers on the internet about, it's this. You'll be kicking your own ass (after we do) if your PSU fails and friends your hardware.

Electric Bill · 12-20-05, 09:30 PM

Rosewill=Junk.
OCZ, Enermax, Antec, Fortron are all good and reasonably priced.
I just went from an Antec 480 NeoPower to a OCZ 520 PowerStream on my nF4 Ultra-D.
I like it a lot.

RJARRRPCGP · 12-20-05, 09:43 PM

Check the fan in the power supply. The power supply fan may not be spinning!

12-12-05, 03:24 PM	Thread Starter #1
G70GT New Member Join Date: Dec 2005	My Rig keeps freezing..:( I recently upgraded to a new computer with PCI-Express. When I play anything cpu/graphics intensive, the computer freezes and i have to restart. Here are the specs: Athlon 64 3000+ Venice @ 1.550v DFI LANPARTY nF4 Ultra-D 1GB Corsair PC3200 Value Ram eVGA GeForce 7800GT I am suspecting the power supply is at fault. It is a rosewill 500w with a 20 to 24 pin adapter. Is the 24 pin adapter causing some kind of voltage issue? or is the power supply a bad brand?
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12-12-05, 03:34 PM	#2
Romulox Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NJ	So you went from a agp to a pci-e board? Did you reinstall the operating system during this upgrade. If you change boards with different different chip sets it is best to reinstall or repair the OS. They're many ppl who also think they need to reinstall after a video card upgrade but I've never had a problem. For the PSU ,I don't think its that. A 500w rosewill should be enough without an Overclock but just to make sure download speedfan and monitor the voltages. __________________ AMD 3800X2 2GB OZC GTX Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe xfx 8800gts Audigy ZS2 Antec III 550/Super lanboy Samsung 206BW
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12-12-05, 03:56 PM	Thread Starter #3
G70GT New Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I went from a VIA K8T800 Pro to nForce 4, so i had to reinstall windows. The CPU is a Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked from 1.8GHz to 2.7GHz. Also, i should add that the PSU makes squeaking sounds and is very hot. The 12v line is at 11.78v and the 5v line is at 4.83v
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12-12-05, 04:01 PM	#4
apu318 Disabled Join Date: May 2004 Location: Welland: Most drug use per capita in Canada.	Put everything back down to stock clock speeds and try to play games. If it doesn't crash, then you know your overclock is not stable. Most likely that it is your PSU. those voltage are quite low for an overclock of such magnitude. What are your CPU temps like? Could you check your ram and CPU voltage under load with Speedfan? They're probably drooping down severly because of your weak PSU.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-12-05, 04:14 PM	#5
ocZer Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Norway - subzero watercooling in winter :D	I agree. Try at stock speeds. What kind of noise is the PSU making? 500W should be enough though. Just make sure it not your OC that's too high.
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12-12-05, 08:55 PM	Thread Starter #6
G70GT New Member Join Date: Dec 2005	The PSU is making high pitched sqeaks about every half second. It also has a "heated" plastic smell to it. I want to overclock my CPU though. It was stable at 2.7GHz before the switch to the DFI.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-12-05, 10:00 PM	#7
Romulox Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NJ	I didn't realize you where overclocking when I first read the post, I kinda ignored the voltage when I didn't see a speed rating. Those are signs that your PSU is failing. I would suggest lowering the OC to stock for now until you get a new PSU. At this point there isn't any other option If you want to OC with your current setup becuase a OCing pci-e system takes a better quality PSU espically with a 7800. If your PSU is still reacting the way you descibed at stock you should leave the comp off until you get a new PSU. A failing power supply can be bad for your system. __________________ AMD 3800X2 2GB OZC GTX Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe xfx 8800gts Audigy ZS2 Antec III 550/Super lanboy Samsung 206BW
	QUOTE Thanks

12-13-05, 03:45 AM	#8
ocZer Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Norway - subzero watercooling in winter :D	That does not sound good at all. If I where in your shoes I would just keep it off and unplug the PSU. Apparantly it's heating up inside, and might just take a few components to it's grave when it fails. You do not want that to happen.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-13-05, 02:56 PM	Thread Starter #9
G70GT New Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Yea, i wouldn't want that to happen. I have been doing some research, and I found the FSP Fortron Blue Storm 500 Watt PSU. Is this power supply any good? It has plenty of good customer reviews.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-13-05, 04:48 PM	#10
ocZer Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Norway - subzero watercooling in winter :D	Fortron PSU's are excellent. Several other companys buy from them and stick their name on them. I was about to buy one, but then I went for an Enermax.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-14-05, 02:47 PM	#11
Sniper.nkc Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Palmdale CA	I am not sure what MB bios version you have. I had some problem and I flashed my motherboard bios to version 623-3. That solved my problem. __________________ CPU: AMD 1090T Black EditionThuban Cooler: Corsair H50 Hydro Series (push/pull) MB: Asus Crosshair IV Formula 890FX SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 60 Gb HD: 2 x WD Caviar Blue (Raid 0) Mem: OCZ Gold series DDR3-1600 GPU: Sapphire HD 6970 in CrossfireX PS: Corsair HX1000W Modular Case: AZZA Solano 1000
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12-14-05, 02:58 PM	#12
Albaholic Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oahu, Hawaii	those bluestorm psu's are awesome i wouldnt hesitate to buy another one __________________ Heat
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12-15-05, 12:55 AM	Thread Starter #13
G70GT New Member Join Date: Dec 2005	i have the latest 6/23/05 bios. Update: It seems to always freeze after 15-20 mins of game play, with the room smelling like "hot" plastic. The PSU hasn't blown yet....
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12-15-05, 06:56 AM	#14
Tiesto Member Join Date: Jan 2005	i'm surprised nobody told you this yet: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10785 DFI specifically says to use 24-pin PSU, not 20pin-to 24-pin converters. also, Rosewill are POS units. and a POS 500W couldnt keep up with a good 400W power supply. Get something with a proven track record, like an Enermax, Antec, Fortron, Tagan, PC&C. If you get a PSU that's almost half the price of similar units from these companies, than you're getting screwed. you get what you pay for.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-16-05, 04:35 PM	#15
fatguy Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City	The smell of hot plastic might be your PWM chip frying...what are you're PWMIC temps? This is a sure sign that you don't have all 4 power connectors hooked up to the board. All 4 must be connected for stability: Image Linked from DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34504) __________________ HEATWARE
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12-19-05, 11:55 AM	Thread Starter #16
G70GT New Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm pretty sure that the plastic smell is coming from the power supply itself. I have all four power connectors plugged in. The PWM Temperatures seem normal (115 F)
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12-20-05, 05:49 PM	#17
apu318 Disabled Join Date: May 2004 Location: Welland: Most drug use per capita in Canada.	Your PSU is crapping out on you. You will need a new one. If there is one thing you listen to strangers on the internet about, it's this. You'll be kicking your own ass (after we do) if your PSU fails and friends your hardware.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-20-05, 09:30 PM	#18
Electric Bill Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rhode Island, USA	Rosewill=Junk. OCZ, Enermax, Antec, Fortron are all good and reasonably priced. I just went from an Antec 480 NeoPower to a OCZ 520 PowerStream on my nF4 Ultra-D. I like it a lot. __________________ ASRock 970 Extreme3 FX-4100 w/Coolermaster GeminII S cooler M Station HT-1100 HTPC Media Center case Antec 480 NeoPower PSU Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX Gigabyte GV-R467ZL 4670/1GB video card Hitachi HDS721050CLA362 500GB SATA hd Windows7 Ultimate x64 & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (partitioned) Pioneer DVR-215D SATA DVD burner Samsung 40" 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV LN40C630 You can teach an old dog; it just takes longer.
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12-20-05, 09:43 PM	#19
RJARRRPCGP Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA (Springfield, Vermont)	Check the fan in the power supply. The power supply fan may not be spinning! __________________ Asus Maximus II Gene- Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6 Ghz (450x8.0) -ICH10R - eVGA GeForce 9500 GT-Fortron FSP500-60GLN(80) 500W PSU " holy cow!! you find a rat in there too!?!?!? " -turbohans "Reinstall winders." -jivetrky "I think I am going to need another coke before I start this up." -cadman420 "Soon Windows will be 50 gb! lololol" -Tokae "NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA."
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