Solid state disk drive

henesse · 01-02-06, 09:56 PM

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28647
any more info on this product?

delman · 01-02-06, 10:09 PM

I have seen stuff before on the solid state drives that looks interesting though. That looks like it would be cheap enough for many people to afford. The ones that I have seen before costed 2-3 thousand dollars.

aeiou · 01-02-06, 10:30 PM

They had these for quite a while. Only difference is this is pci-e

tom10167 · 01-03-06, 01:20 AM

So is this using a SATA cable still which is limited to a theoretical max 3GB/s or is it going straight through the PCI-E? I don't see a SATA port on the card, but who knows.

That would be excellent.

Also!

I never knew PCI E slots were so small! It'll be nice when they start making tiny cards, and then tiny mobos, and then tiny cases.

K15 · 01-03-06, 01:41 AM

They've had solid state drives for several years (Quantum made one in the mid 90s.)
They are pretty cool, but solid state will never completely take over for hard drives. Also, they don't explain the memory technology. All they say is DDR, leading me to believe it acts basically like regular RAM

So the data is lost when the power's off?

K15 · 01-03-06, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tom10167

So is this using a SATA cable still which is limited to a theoretical max 3GB/s or is it going straight through the PCI-E? I don't see a SATA port on the card, but who knows.

That would be excellent.

Also!

I never knew PCI E slots were so small! It'll be nice when they start making tiny cards, and then tiny mobos, and then tiny cases.

PCI-E x1 is that small (I think that is x1 anyway). x16 is obviously huge.

Snugglebear · 01-03-06, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by K15

They've had solid state drives for several years (Quantum made one in the mid 90s.)
They are pretty cool, but solid state will never completely take over for hard drives. Also, they don't explain the memory technology. All they say is DDR, leading me to believe it acts basically like regular RAM

So the data is lost when the power's off?

Peripheral devices can pull power when the machine is turned off. This is how WOL/WOR is implemented in nics and modems, among other devices. However, any half-brained engineer is going to put a rechargeable battery in a volitile-memory-based unit. These will give you a couple days of safety when no power at all is available.

sandrock · 01-03-06, 02:00 AM

If no battery is included, I'd imagine they'd have software that would auto-backup to a hard disk occasionally in case of power outage.

tom10167 · 01-03-06, 02:09 AM

"According to sources close to the firm, the drive will have ...an external power jack with a switching AC adaptor, "

Who · 01-03-06, 03:32 AM

Competition for the I-Ram. But, it looks we won't be able to raid these. Too bad it uses DDR1. Also, only 512 units. Sounds like it'll be expensive.

K15 · 01-03-06, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tom10167

"According to sources close to the firm, the drive will have ...an external power jack with a switching AC adaptor, "

AC adaptor fails while you are on vacation, battery dies, data is gone. It's just a risk I wouldn't take. Plus with hard drives, you can leave them on a shelf for 2 years and they will still have their data on them. I'm not against the idea, I just think they have to use something as permanent as a hard drive.

tom10167 · 01-03-06, 05:32 AM

I forgot battery != wall

It's late.

mortimer · 01-03-06, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Who

Competition for the I-Ram. But, it looks we won't be able to raid these. Too bad it uses DDR1. Also, only 512 units. Sounds like it'll be expensive.

Thought about that, looks like 4 slots. Text said 8GB?

Jame Gumb · 01-03-06, 08:26 AM

2gig sticks of RAM are out there, for a price.

Unless they sell the car for $25-$35 this is a rip off. The price of RAM is a joke.

I think the gigabyte beat the Raptor a full 4-5 seconds.

K15 · 01-03-06, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tom10167

I forgot battery != wall

It's late.

Battery in the wall? What if I want to move somewhere else?
Ah it doesn't matter, point is i'm not storing data on anything that requires power to hold the data, i'm just not

lcpiper · 01-09-06, 03:06 PM

Hmm, I am seriously looking at these but my situation may be different then many others.

I like the battery back-up of the I-RAM better then this new one's wall-adapter. Power goes down every once in awhile and I think relying on the battery is a better option.

I'll also take the RAID0 option over the PCI-E 1x for more bandwidth.

I won't be storing any major data to these, I will install the OS and a couple of my fav games, nothing that can't be backed up and/or reloaded come worst case. Real data goes to a real HD.

The performance increase for the i-RAM is going to be something that is undeniably noticable.

infinitevalence · 01-09-06, 03:51 PM

Dont forget large density Flash drives. Trancend said they will have 16GB drives out by the end of the first quarter.

K15 · 01-09-06, 05:50 PM

Flash is so slow, though

greenmaji · 01-09-06, 08:21 PM

the reason these didnt take off in the 90's was the asking price (they came preloaded with ram) and they wanted 3-4K for a ramdrive..
if the bare card is sold without ram these might be worthwhile..

greenmaji · 01-09-06, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by K15

Flash is so slow, though

I thought that was dependent on the type of flash memory..

I could see notbooks using these.. heck mine would benifit from one like no other upgrade I could think of.. LOL

01-02-06, 09:56 PM	Thread Starter #1
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tom10167 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix. YOUR HAIR IS GOOD TO EAT	So is this using a SATA cable still which is limited to a theoretical max 3GB/s or is it going straight through the PCI-E? I don't see a SATA port on the card, but who knows. That would be excellent. Also! I never knew PCI E slots were so small! It'll be nice when they start making tiny cards, and then tiny mobos, and then tiny cases. __________________ I7 920/4890/Raid0 x-25m/ 3008wfp + 23" lcd/blah/blah/blah It's 2010 I think we can definitely* remove all 56k warnings from thread titles* Please stop saying fleabay, worst buy, etc. :)
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K15 Member Join Date: Nov 2005	They've had solid state drives for several years (Quantum made one in the mid 90s.) They are pretty cool, but solid state will never completely take over for hard drives. Also, they don't explain the memory technology. All they say is DDR, leading me to believe it acts basically like regular RAM So the data is lost when the power's off? __________________ <CPU>AMD A64 3700+ 2.2ghz San Diego \| <Motherboard>Asus A8N5X \| <Case>Cooler Master Centurion 530 \| <PSU>Antec TPll 380 watt \| <Hard drive>Seagate 7200.9 SATA2 160GB \| <RAM>1GB Kingmax DDR400 PC3200 \| <Video card>Cheap ATI X300 PCI E16 (save money)
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tom10167 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix. YOUR HAIR IS GOOD TO EAT	"According to sources close to the firm, the drive will have ...an external power jack with a switching AC adaptor, " __________________ I7 920/4890/Raid0 x-25m/ 3008wfp + 23" lcd/blah/blah/blah It's 2010 I think we can definitely* remove all 56k warnings from thread titles* Please stop saying fleabay, worst buy, etc. :)
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Who Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: A yellow submarine...	Competition for the I-Ram. But, it looks we won't be able to raid these. Too bad it uses DDR1. Also, only 512 units. Sounds like it'll be expensive.
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tom10167 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix. YOUR HAIR IS GOOD TO EAT	I forgot battery != wall It's late. __________________ I7 920/4890/Raid0 x-25m/ 3008wfp + 23" lcd/blah/blah/blah It's 2010 I think we can definitely* remove all 56k warnings from thread titles* Please stop saying fleabay, worst buy, etc. :)
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lcpiper Registered Join Date: Jul 2002	Hmm, I am seriously looking at these but my situation may be different then many others. I like the battery back-up of the I-RAM better then this new one's wall-adapter. Power goes down every once in awhile and I think relying on the battery is a better option. I'll also take the RAID0 option over the PCI-E 1x for more bandwidth. I won't be storing any major data to these, I will install the OS and a couple of my fav games, nothing that can't be backed up and/or reloaded come worst case. Real data goes to a real HD. The performance increase for the i-RAM is going to be something that is undeniably noticable.
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infinitevalence Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nashville	Dont forget large density Flash drives. Trancend said they will have 16GB drives out by the end of the first quarter.
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greenmaji Senior Spellcheck Join Date: Dec 2005	the reason these didnt take off in the 90's was the asking price (they came preloaded with ram) and they wanted 3-4K for a ramdrive.. if the bare card is sold without ram these might be worthwhile..
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