tdx vs apogee?

josh478 · 01-29-06, 09:45 PM

which one is better here? on danger dens site, they let you 'customize' a kit and all they have is the rbx and tdx? dunno but i havent heard much of either...

Aidenswarrior · 01-29-06, 09:59 PM

tdx hands down. but if you want something better, look for the storm, if you can even find it anymore.

josh478 · 01-29-06, 10:06 PM

bah, i want to get everything from one site. guess ill go with the tdx. how does it compare to the apogee, or storm for that matter.

Moto7451 · 01-29-06, 10:08 PM

From the benchmarks I've seen, the 6002 will perform as well as or outperform a TDX or RBX and the Apogee outperforms that a good margin. The Apogee and the Storm have near identical performance. Check the procooling reviews or the home page's.

Aidenswarrior · 01-29-06, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto7451

The Apogee and the Storm have near identical performance.

i wanna see proof of this statement. considering a ton of people are having trouble with the apogee, leaking, shavings, etc...

Cerberus2k7 · 01-29-06, 10:42 PM

I've seen it saying it beats the storm block by about 1-2ºC on performance-pcs

Moto7451 · 01-29-06, 11:11 PM

Apogee v.s. Storm
http://www.ocia.net/reviews/apogee/page5.shtml

6000 v.s. TDX and others
http://www.procooling.com/reviews/as...00_comparo.gif

6000 compared to 6002 (main difference is 1/2" barbs on the 6002, nearly identical performance)
http://www.procooling.com/reviews/as...cw6002flow.gif

Performance as in temps. Every product run as its glitches. How many people have we seen over the years with cracked acrylic (lucite is acrylic) tops? Those are still sold to this day. I consider them to be a liability personally.

As far as the block's workmanship, I'd say the Storm or 6002 is better than the TDX and Apogee. The Apogee has had a few problems here and there, and the stock TDX has an acrylic top which is a liability (yes, you can buy a brass top, but at the same time you can also reinforce the Apogee's top or be careful). Meanwhile the 6002 & Storm have a far better track record.

More or less, inspect whatever you buy. Make sure theres no damage. Have fun

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Etacovda · 01-30-06, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto7451

Apogee v.s. Storm
http://www.ocia.net/reviews/apogee/page5.shtml

6000 v.s. TDX and others
http://www.procooling.com/reviews/as...00_comparo.gif

6000 compared to 6002 (main difference is 1/2" barbs on the 6002, nearly identical performance)
http://www.procooling.com/reviews/as...cw6002flow.gif

Performance as in temps. Every product run as its glitches. How many people have we seen over the years with cracked acrylic (lucite is acrylic) tops? Those are still sold to this day. I consider them to be a liability personally.

As far as the block's workmanship, I'd say the Storm or 6002 is better than the TDX and Apogee. The Apogee has had a few problems here and there, and the stock TDX has an acrylic top which is a liability (yes, you can buy a brass top, but at the same time you can also reinforce the Apogee's top or be careful). Meanwhile the 6002 & Storm have a far better track record.

More or less, inspect whatever you buy. Make sure theres no damage. Have fun

.

you cannot cross ref waterblock reviews.

Moto7451 · 01-30-06, 11:31 AM

I'm not. I'm just showing performance data.

The first one is in reply to Aidenswarrior. The apogee performs as well as the Storm.

The second shows the 6000 outperforming the TDX. Unless you're running a low flowrate, the Storm (generally) outperforms the 6000. The conjecture that this means the Storm outperforms the TDX can be made (if you have a link to a direct TDX v.s. Storm comparison Eta, please share).

The last one is just to show the 6000 & 6002 perform near identically (I said 6002 earlier so I figured it would be in good spirit to show that the 6000 is a suitable substitute).

I'm not cross referencing data. The numbers aren't important. I'm speaking in general terms about how one block compares to another.

Fighter2a · 01-30-06, 12:26 PM

But honestly, a TDX is a very well built water block that will work just fine unless you have to have that extra performance. Your temps are still going to be low. The TDX is really easy to take apart and clean also.

josh478 · 01-30-06, 02:43 PM

well, maybe you guys can give me some recomendations for my application... i dont play a TON of games, just like battlefield vietnam, bf2, cod and thats about it. im not going to be cooling my GPU, and dont really have any other plans to either. maybe upgrading the cooling on it, but definately NOT a waterblock. so im just going to be running a cpu block, and seems that if i want to get all the parts at once, the tdx is the only way i can do that unless i overnight another block(30 bucks for a 6 ounce block, freaking rip off) and get it that way. as long as the tdx isnt HORRIBLE, and will give me much lower temps then the big typhoon, ill TRY it. i can always take it back, because im going to get it from microcenter.

here is my big thing. i had the BT on my old prescott(slow, crappy, etc.) and max temps were like 38@3.7ghz and idle was like 33. i would want my temps with this water setup to be like 28idle and 35 load on the PRESLER, at 4.4ghz. is that possible?

01-29-06, 09:45 PM	Thread Starter #1
josh478 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: jawja	tdx vs apogee? which one is better here? on danger dens site, they let you 'customize' a kit and all they have is the rbx and tdx? dunno but i havent heard much of either...
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01-29-06, 09:59 PM	#2
Aidenswarrior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio	tdx hands down. but if you want something better, look for the storm, if you can even find it anymore.
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01-29-06, 10:06 PM	Thread Starter #3
josh478 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: jawja	bah, i want to get everything from one site. guess ill go with the tdx. how does it compare to the apogee, or storm for that matter.
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01-29-06, 10:08 PM	#4
Moto7451 Senior Something Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA, CA	From the benchmarks I've seen, the 6002 will perform as well as or outperform a TDX or RBX and the Apogee outperforms that a good margin. The Apogee and the Storm have near identical performance. Check the procooling reviews or the home page's. __________________ Intel C2D e6400 @ 375MHz x8 = 3Ghz 1.328v, Gigabyte EP43-UD3L, 3GB DDR2, GeForce 9600GT, 73GB 15K SCSI HD/Adaptec 29160 SCSI Card, 750GB SATA Drive, 320GB ATA Drive, HDTV Tuner D5 Pump • Bonneville w/ AC Heater Core • Gemeni Cooling Maze 4 Style Water Block Sager 8690: Core i7 940XM Exreme 2.13GHz (3.2GHz Turbo), 4GB DDR3, GeForce GTX 285M 1GB, 15.6" 1080 LCD, 320GB 7200RPM HD Difference Between D5 Revisions + flow mod Difference between NPSM & G1/4 Last edited by Moto7451; 01-29-06 at 10:35 PM.
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01-29-06, 11:11 PM	#7
Moto7451 Senior Something Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA, CA	Apogee v.s. Storm http://www.ocia.net/reviews/apogee/page5.shtml 6000 v.s. TDX and others http://www.procooling.com/reviews/as...00_comparo.gif 6000 compared to 6002 (main difference is 1/2" barbs on the 6002, nearly identical performance) http://www.procooling.com/reviews/as...cw6002flow.gif Performance as in temps. Every product run as its glitches. How many people have we seen over the years with cracked acrylic (lucite is acrylic) tops? Those are still sold to this day. I consider them to be a liability personally. As far as the block's workmanship, I'd say the Storm or 6002 is better than the TDX and Apogee. The Apogee has had a few problems here and there, and the stock TDX has an acrylic top which is a liability (yes, you can buy a brass top, but at the same time you can also reinforce the Apogee's top or be careful). Meanwhile the 6002 & Storm have a far better track record. More or less, inspect whatever you buy. Make sure theres no damage. Have fun . __________________ Intel C2D e6400 @ 375MHz x8 = 3Ghz 1.328v, Gigabyte EP43-UD3L, 3GB DDR2, GeForce 9600GT, 73GB 15K SCSI HD/Adaptec 29160 SCSI Card, 750GB SATA Drive, 320GB ATA Drive, HDTV Tuner D5 Pump • Bonneville w/ AC Heater Core • Gemeni Cooling Maze 4 Style Water Block Sager 8690: Core i7 940XM Exreme 2.13GHz (3.2GHz Turbo), 4GB DDR3, GeForce GTX 285M 1GB, 15.6" 1080 LCD, 320GB 7200RPM HD Difference Between D5 Revisions + flow mod Difference between NPSM & G1/4
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01-30-06, 11:31 AM	#9
Moto7451 Senior Something Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA, CA	I'm not. I'm just showing performance data. The first one is in reply to Aidenswarrior. The apogee performs as well as the Storm. The second shows the 6000 outperforming the TDX. Unless you're running a low flowrate, the Storm (generally) outperforms the 6000. The conjecture that this means the Storm outperforms the TDX can be made (if you have a link to a direct TDX v.s. Storm comparison Eta, please share). The last one is just to show the 6000 & 6002 perform near identically (I said 6002 earlier so I figured it would be in good spirit to show that the 6000 is a suitable substitute). I'm not cross referencing data. The numbers aren't important. I'm speaking in general terms about how one block compares to another. __________________ Intel C2D e6400 @ 375MHz x8 = 3Ghz 1.328v, Gigabyte EP43-UD3L, 3GB DDR2, GeForce 9600GT, 73GB 15K SCSI HD/Adaptec 29160 SCSI Card, 750GB SATA Drive, 320GB ATA Drive, HDTV Tuner D5 Pump • Bonneville w/ AC Heater Core • Gemeni Cooling Maze 4 Style Water Block Sager 8690: Core i7 940XM Exreme 2.13GHz (3.2GHz Turbo), 4GB DDR3, GeForce GTX 285M 1GB, 15.6" 1080 LCD, 320GB 7200RPM HD Difference Between D5 Revisions + flow mod Difference between NPSM & G1/4
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01-30-06, 12:26 PM	#10
Fighter2a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas	But honestly, a TDX is a very well built water block that will work just fine unless you have to have that extra performance. Your temps are still going to be low. The TDX is really easy to take apart and clean also. __________________ [My Heatware]
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01-30-06, 02:43 PM	Thread Starter #11
josh478 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: jawja	well, maybe you guys can give me some recomendations for my application... i dont play a TON of games, just like battlefield vietnam, bf2, cod and thats about it. im not going to be cooling my GPU, and dont really have any other plans to either. maybe upgrading the cooling on it, but definately NOT a waterblock. so im just going to be running a cpu block, and seems that if i want to get all the parts at once, the tdx is the only way i can do that unless i overnight another block(30 bucks for a 6 ounce block, freaking rip off) and get it that way. as long as the tdx isnt HORRIBLE, and will give me much lower temps then the big typhoon, ill TRY it. i can always take it back, because im going to get it from microcenter. here is my big thing. i had the BT on my old prescott(slow, crappy, etc.) and max temps were like 38@3.7ghz and idle was like 33. i would want my temps with this water setup to be like 28idle and 35 load on the PRESLER, at 4.4ghz. is that possible?
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