looking at fedora core

inkfx · May 12, 2006

Well im interested in getting Linux running on my FTP server but ive got one problem. I plan on downloading it from this site, http://fedora.redhat.com/. My problem is I dont know how to get .ISO files on a CD or a DVD, im sure its pretty simple ive just never done it before. Thanks.

da_spork · May 12, 2006

Check out this link

There are some links on the side as to how to burn them

anon1 · May 12, 2006

Most applications that allow you to burn software has an option to "Burn as an ISO" underneath the "Data" section of ways to burn.

inkfx · May 12, 2006

Thanks for the quick response, ill give one of those programs a try. Hope it works!

khiloa · May 13, 2006

You can give Fedora a try, but for anything long term I would urge you to try something that is not RPM based, I think you will find it to be much easier to install/uinstall/upgrade software packages using a package manager such as apt-get.

For a server I would say debian stable would be a good choice.

http://www.debian.org

rrcoot · May 14, 2006

khiloa said:
You can give Fedora a try, but for anything long term I would urge you to try something that is not RPM based, I think you will find it to be much easier to install/uinstall/upgrade software packages using a package manager such as apt-get.

For a server I would say debian stable would be a good choice.

http://www.debian.org

Fedora Core has yum which is a package manager that is just as easy to use as apt-get. Some people have commented before that it is a 'sloppy' implementation of a package manager because it is a python script, but I have never had any problems with it.

klingens · May 14, 2006

yum is not a packagemanager. RPM is. yum is a downloader and automatic dependency resolver and a frontend to rpm.

All that said: neither rpm nor yum are the problem but the packages themselves. They just aren't made with enough care and the lack of central repositories, with each packagesource doing it "their way(tm)", makes rpm distros simply unmaintainable over the long term.

Flamed_Chip · May 14, 2006

rrcoot said:
Fedora Core has yum which is a package manager that is just as easy to use as apt-get. Some people have commented before that it is a 'sloppy' implementation of a package manager because it is a python script, but I have never had any problems with it.

The Gentoo package manager, Portage, is also written in Python. That in no way makes it "sloppy."

khiloa · May 14, 2006

Flamed_Chip said:
The Gentoo package manager, Portage, is also written in Python. That in no way makes it "sloppy."

No, it is very good, but it is getting quite slow.

inkfx · May 14, 2006

I dont think I will be using this long term. I just wanted something Linux and a friend of mine suggested this so I thought "why not?". I havn't gotten a chance to burn the CDs untill tonight. I hope everything goes smoothly.

khiloa · May 14, 2006

Well, if it is just a quick test to see what it is all about, then FC should do a good enough job.

Midnight Dream · May 14, 2006

inkfx said:
looking at fedora core

Please dont. The distro tends to get scared when people look at it, and then loses all its RPMs everywhere. Quite a mess. I suggest something less scarable, like Debian. It can handle its packages better.

Richard · May 14, 2006

One of the best things about linux is there's no need to commit to a specific distro. Download and burn them all. Try each one for a week or so. Come back to the ones that you like. If you get to a dead end, try to find a way out. If you break it, keep starting over until you don't break it, or learn how to fix it.

That's one thing I'll say about all of these distros. I've always learned ~something. I can tell you what I've learned, but it won't stick until you do it for yourself.

Fedora, isn't a "bad" distro. It's just that there are better choices. The kicker is that the "best" choice seems to be dependant on the person's comfort zone with linux. That only comes with time.

In an ideal world, the easiest distro would also be the best. However, linux's GNU library of software and driver development could hardly be considered - ideal. Therefore, it is very important that the user educates him/herself in a myriad of subjects; in order to be a "holistic" linux user.

inkfx · May 16, 2006

Well I seem to have run into a little problem when trying to format the computer. I burned Fedora Core onto 5 CDs using Nero 7 Ultra Edition. I turn the computer on and stick in disk 1, the computer boots but when it comes time to install the OS it just goes to a black screen with a little white underscore blinking at the top. Do you think it didnt burn properly or maybe there is something else wrong?

itshondo · May 16, 2006

I recommend you check out PCLinuxOS- I CD to burn, and if you like the Live CD, then you can very easily install it.

And updating is a breeze.

Adragontattoo · May 16, 2006

inkfx said:
Well I seem to have run into a little problem when trying to format the computer. I burned Fedora Core onto 5 CDs using Nero 7 Ultra Edition. I turn the computer on and stick in disk 1, the computer boots but when it comes time to install the OS it just goes to a black screen with a little white underscore blinking at the top. Do you think it didnt burn properly or maybe there is something else wrong?

Does it give you any info on uncompressing kernel or anything prior to switching to the black screen??

I know that on the work lappie (Compaq NC6000) the first time I tried to load Ubuntu for whatever reason it hung for a bit. I thought it had crashed so I rebooted and the installer ran without a hitch.

I tried to learn on Redhat about 2 or so years ago, my suggestion is find a better distro to use. Fedora probably has gotten better but I have learned 30x as much from 2 weeks of use with Ubuntu as I did in 2 months of :bang head

with Redhat.

Cheator · May 16, 2006

Fedora is easy, in my mind. I think its a good idea to try.

I would suggest buring as slow as possible.

ponkan pinoy · May 17, 2006

Another thing you can do if the root directory of the fedora cd has a file with the md5 hashes for all the files on the cd, is to do a check on every file. http://www.md5summer.org/ has a windows utility that creates and checks md5 hashes

inkfx · May 18, 2006

Adragontattoo said:
Does it give you any info on uncompressing kernel or anything prior to switching to the black screen??

No, it doesnt tell me anything. I just see the BIOS screen then the POST screen and after that it just goes straight to the black screen with the blinking underscore. Do you think maybe it has something to do with the boot priority? I could check but it wouldn't be untill tomorrow.

inkfx · May 20, 2006

Anyone have some ideas? Id really like to get this other computer running.

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