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ChasR · 06-07-06, 11:21 AM

Here's my take on folding production. These numbers are from dedicated machines or idle periods on non-dedicated machines. WUs vary a lot on the same core so your mileage will vary above and below these figures from WU to WU, core to core.
Edits in red

A64 Production

Ambers: 70ppd/GHz/core
Gromacs: 60ppd/GHz/core
DGromacs: 155ppd/GHz/core
GBGromacs: 75ppd/GHz/core
Tinkers: 85ppd/GHz/core
Non Current but interesting WUs:
Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 125ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 175ppd/GHz/core
QMDs: 135ppd/GHz/core without using SSE2

The unit of measure ppd/GHz is used because performance within a family of processors scales linearly. Saves having to figure out how many GHz a 3800+ or Intel 650 is since AMD and Intel quit using the GHz to identify the cpu.

Single core A64s with 512 MB caches produce about 185ppd/GHz on p1481 (364 points). Single core A64s with 1 MB caches produce around 210 ppd/GHz on p1481.

Athlon XP production:

Ambers: 66ppd/GHz
Gromacs: 53ppd/GHz
DGromacs: 82ppd/GHz
GBGromacs: 72ppd/GHz
Tinkers: 85ppd/GHz
Big Gromacs (600 pointers): 112ppd/GHz
Big Gromacs (364 pointers): 123ppd/GHz
QMDs: 98ppd/GHz

These numbers come from my XP-M (Barton) fleet, all similar to sig rig #3.

Older XPs and XPs on slower FSB may not produce as well on the big Gromacs, particularly p1481, due to memory bandwidth bottlenecking.

Intel Dothan, Yonah, Conroe Production

Ambers: 65ppd/GHz/core
Gromacs: 65ppd/GHz/core
DGromacs: 145ppd/GHz/core Dothan/Yonah, 225ppd/GHz Merom
GBGromacs: 65ppd/GHz/core
Tinkers: 65ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 150ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 315ppd/GHz/core, DC 2 MB Cache 205ppd/GHz/core, DC 4MB Cache 330ppd/GHz/core
QMDs: 115ppd/GHz stock FSB, 160+ppd/GHz on OC'd desktop E6600 - 250ppd/GHz/single instance

Intel Netburst not using HT(p4 based, numbers based on Dual channel ram @ 2-2-2)

Ambers: 40ppd/GHz/core
Gromacs: 40ppd/GHz/core
DGromacs: 95ppd/GHz/core P4C to 110ppd/GHz/core Pressler
GBGromacs: 45ppd/GHz/core
Tinkers: 49ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 85ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 95 to 170ppd/GHz/core depending on cache size
QMDs: Celeron 90ppd/GHz, P4C 145ppd/GHz, P4E 155ppd/GHz

P3
Ambers: 52ppd/GHz
Gromacs: 45ppd/GHz
DGromacs: 45ppd/GHz
GBGromacs: 48ppd/GHz
Tinkers: 55ppd/GHz
Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 102ppd/GHz
Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 155ppd/GHz

If you have data that doesn't seem to come close to the above, please let me know.

sno.lcn · 06-07-06, 11:26 AM

Nice work ChasR!

LandShark · 06-07-06, 11:30 AM

great info here!! I vote for the sticky for this thread!!

p.s. ChasR, the NetBurst architecture chips' DGromac time seems to be on the low side.... e.g. my 4ghz Presler with average memroy speed (<800mhz) is getting mid to high 800s ppd running 2 DGromac regardless the kind of protein. it's at least 105-110ppd/ghz/core in my case.

p.p.s. and you might want to point out that the current Core chip's number is from a Merom, not Conroe (which I bet will be different due to the higher fsb & memory speed)

Macaholic · 06-07-06, 11:56 AM

Merom

DGromacs: 225.94ppd/GHz/core
Gromacs: 72.13ppd/GHz/core

Rav · 06-07-06, 12:25 PM

Good post. Not sure if you are interested in older CPUs, althought it might be useful to people who are looking for borgs. I'll update as other cores come through.

PIII-EB Coppermine-T 256k Cache
GBGromacs: 48ppd/GHz/core

-Rav

Speedmonkay · 06-07-06, 01:00 PM

mmmmmm tasty data .... nice work

Why isnt this stickied yet ??

harlam357 · 06-07-06, 01:23 PM

Ditto on the sticky!

TIS · 06-10-06, 11:26 PM

stickyme

Hack30 · 06-11-06, 09:33 AM

This must be made a sticky, i insist.

If not a sticky then incorperated into the complete idiots guide for reference.

ChasR · 06-11-06, 02:00 PM

P3 added to the list:

P3
Ambers: 52ppd/GHz
Gromacs: 45ppd/GHz
DGromacs: 45ppd/GHz
GBGromacs: 48ppd/GHz
Tinkers: 55ppd/GHz
Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 102ppd/GHz
Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 155ppd/GHz

AlabamaCajun · 06-11-06, 04:10 PM

That Merome PPD sounds too high. I don't think you can get an 64% increase per Ghz. :?

edit: changed 70% to 64% bad calculator

ChasR · 06-11-06, 06:09 PM

Merom, Conroe and Woodcrest all have much better SSE2/3 execution than Pentium M, and Yonah so this result shouldn't be too surprising. Note that it's performance on regular Gromacs (72ppd/GHz/core) is about 10% better than Pentium M/Yonah production. It should also be noted that Gromacs production varies more than + or - 10% on the various WUs and 65ppd/GHz is an average on P-M and Yonah so the difference depends on which WU mac was folding..

Silver · 06-11-06, 08:50 PM

Ran it against my small farm and for the processors I have it seems rather in line. Found the Celly D's to pull 42PPD/GHz. One of the 754's was at 80PPD/Ghz but tweaked it a tad and it is now at 85.048 which seems to me close enough given the variables.

Chasr, why is the Merom pulling so well on the 364's and do you think this will improve or not on the conroes? Stictly SSE? Seems the A64's would hold their own if it were not for the SSE handicap.

As it stands now, A64 wins out on Ambers, GBGromacs and Tinkers while merom/conroe win out on Gromacs and Dgromacs. Problem is when the non standards come (and I think they will) the lack of full SSE implementation on the A64 makes the Merom/Conroe a hands down winner.

ChasR · 06-12-06, 12:09 AM

I would expect the Merom and Conroes to do very well on the the 364 pointers, how much better than the P-M and Yonah remains to be seen as I have no data on them. The numbers are coming from a P-M. I'm not sure the merom or conroe will have enough bandwidth to fold two p1481s (they will need close to 5000-6000 MB/sec) concurrently at full speed.

LandShark · 06-12-06, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlabamaCajun

That Merome PPD sounds too high. I don't think you can get an 70% increase per HGZ. :?

mainly b/c DGromacs use SSE2 (and bonus point!), and all Core architecture can performan TWO SSE(2/3) instruction in ONE cycle instead of one instruction per cycle on other processor! Thus that will give them a good boost on pretty much anything that's heavy on SSE(2/3)!!

squads · 06-20-06, 08:48 PM

could this be possibly be made a sticky? I have to keep finding this thread and it seems pretty relavent.

EDIT: I just subscribed to it, but still its a good thread

sno.lcn · 08-27-06, 07:13 PM

Bump. I've seen a lot of threads that this here would answer perfectly

ChasR · 08-27-06, 08:01 PM

Added a few more edits on Conroe production.

I missed answering Silvers question about the difference between A64 and Dothan/Yonah/Conroe & relatives on 364 pointers. I don't beleive it has anything to do with any SSE handicap on the part of an A64 and know of no way to quantify whatever handicap there may be. Cache size appears to be the determining factor in p147x/81 production. 2 MB per instance works great particularly with the low latency of the Intel Core family.

LandShark · 08-27-06, 08:18 PM

Nik, David, could you guys "sticky" this handy thread please!!

David · 08-28-06, 05:54 AM

Stuck for now, might need to tidy up the stickies again soon.

harlam357 · 08-28-06, 09:36 AM

Thanks David!

All I can say is, "man, 'bout time!"

ChasR will keep this a great reference for us all with his usual ppd/ghz skill. Of that I have no doubt.

Shelnutt2 · 10-26-06, 08:25 PM

bump for the new guys.

godofgorks · 10-26-06, 08:31 PM

yeah a lot of the stickies were pulled since they are linked to in the all inclusive welcome to fah sticky...

great thread though, probably looked at it a lot in the past week...

David · 10-27-06, 04:05 AM

Going to add the info in a lot of the unstuck stickies to the site, then throw up a link in a sticky about the site or something.

Vipersfate · 10-27-06, 04:14 AM

Sounds like a good solid guide. What about the Pentium 4s Prescotts, with HT?

ChasR · 10-27-06, 07:41 AM

These numbers are all from P4s with HT but running one instance. It's not possible to give reliable numbers on them when running two instances because each instance influences the speed of the other. In general you can go from less than 50% of these numbers per instance to 65% of these numbers per instance depending on the WUs.

Intel Netburst without using HT (p4 based, numbers based on Dual channel ram @ 2-2-2)

Ambers: 40ppd/GHz/core
Gromacs: 40ppd/GHz/core
DGromacs: 95ppd/GHz/core P4C to 110ppd/GHz/core Pressler
GBGromacs: 40ppd/GHz/core
Tinkers: 49ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 85ppd/GHz/core
Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 95 to 170ppd/GHz/core depending on cache size
QMDs: Celeron 90ppd/GHz, P4C 145ppd/GHz, P4E 155ppd/GHz

allen1090 · 02-24-07, 03:38 PM

any chance this could get an update for SMP folding?

allen1090 · 02-24-07, 04:15 PM

jws, this is already in the sticky with all the usefull links

Morvak · 07-13-07, 03:30 PM

I have a question - with my rig below (sig) - if I were to get involved, what kind of output would my modest machine put out? Would I be a user always at the low end of the contribution list if I fold 24/7? Middle of the list? Are those that have farms the ones at the tops of the charts?

And would my machine be a Gromac? (i dont understand any of that LOL)

TIA!

06-07-06, 11:21 AM	#1
ChasR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta	Folding Production by CPU/Core Here's my take on folding production. These numbers are from dedicated machines or idle periods on non-dedicated machines. WUs vary a lot on the same core so your mileage will vary above and below these figures from WU to WU, core to core. Edits in red A64 Production Ambers: 70ppd/GHz/core Gromacs: 60ppd/GHz/core DGromacs: 155ppd/GHz/core GBGromacs: 75ppd/GHz/core Tinkers: 85ppd/GHz/core Non Current but interesting WUs: Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 125ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 175ppd/GHz/core QMDs: 135ppd/GHz/core without using SSE2 The unit of measure ppd/GHz is used because performance within a family of processors scales linearly. Saves having to figure out how many GHz a 3800+ or Intel 650 is since AMD and Intel quit using the GHz to identify the cpu. Single core A64s with 512 MB caches produce about 185ppd/GHz on p1481 (364 points). Single core A64s with 1 MB caches produce around 210 ppd/GHz on p1481. Athlon XP production: Ambers: 66ppd/GHz Gromacs: 53ppd/GHz DGromacs: 82ppd/GHz GBGromacs: 72ppd/GHz Tinkers: 85ppd/GHz Big Gromacs (600 pointers): 112ppd/GHz Big Gromacs (364 pointers): 123ppd/GHz QMDs: 98ppd/GHz These numbers come from my XP-M (Barton) fleet, all similar to sig rig #3. Older XPs and XPs on slower FSB may not produce as well on the big Gromacs, particularly p1481, due to memory bandwidth bottlenecking. Intel Dothan, Yonah, Conroe Production Ambers: 65ppd/GHz/core Gromacs: 65ppd/GHz/core DGromacs: 145ppd/GHz/core Dothan/Yonah, 225ppd/GHz Merom GBGromacs: 65ppd/GHz/core Tinkers: 65ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 150ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 315ppd/GHz/core, DC 2 MB Cache 205ppd/GHz/core, DC 4MB Cache 330ppd/GHz/core QMDs: 115ppd/GHz stock FSB, 160+ppd/GHz on OC'd desktop E6600 - 250ppd/GHz/single instance Intel Netburst not using HT(p4 based, numbers based on Dual channel ram @ 2-2-2) Ambers: 40ppd/GHz/core Gromacs: 40ppd/GHz/core DGromacs: 95ppd/GHz/core P4C to 110ppd/GHz/core Pressler GBGromacs: 45ppd/GHz/core Tinkers: 49ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 85ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 95 to 170ppd/GHz/core depending on cache size QMDs: Celeron 90ppd/GHz, P4C 145ppd/GHz, P4E 155ppd/GHz P3 Ambers: 52ppd/GHz Gromacs: 45ppd/GHz DGromacs: 45ppd/GHz GBGromacs: 48ppd/GHz Tinkers: 55ppd/GHz Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 102ppd/GHz Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 155ppd/GHz If you have data that doesn't seem to come close to the above, please let me know. __________________ 16 Quads, 3 C2Ds, 11 SC, 23 GPUs and some friends and family. Many thanks to HayesK for his support. Last edited by ChasR; 11-01-06 at 04:49 PM.

06-07-06, 11:26 AM	#2
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06-07-06, 11:56 AM	#4
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06-07-06, 12:25 PM	#5
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06-07-06, 11:30 AM	#3
LandShark Super Shark Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Deep Blue Sea (Maryland)	great info here!! I vote for the sticky for this thread!! p.s. ChasR, the NetBurst architecture chips' DGromac time seems to be on the low side.... e.g. my 4ghz Presler with average memroy speed (<800mhz) is getting mid to high 800s ppd running 2 DGromac regardless the kind of protein. it's at least 105-110ppd/ghz/core in my case. p.p.s. and you might want to point out that the current Core chip's number is from a Merom, not Conroe (which I bet will be different due to the higher fsb & memory speed) __________________ ~~~ Currently In Semi-Active Mode ~~~ Got SOLD? MOVE your own thread! How many GHz of Intel + Nvidia folding power? Dunno! Lost count! \| F@H Vista Sidebar gadget \| F@H Yahoo Widget \| F@H iGoogle gadget \| \| My Heatware \| My New HTPC 3.0: Server/Client setup + Better energy efficiency \|

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06-11-06, 02:00 PM	#10
ChasR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta	P3 added to the list: P3 Ambers: 52ppd/GHz Gromacs: 45ppd/GHz DGromacs: 45ppd/GHz GBGromacs: 48ppd/GHz Tinkers: 55ppd/GHz Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 102ppd/GHz Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 155ppd/GHz __________________ 16 Quads, 3 C2Ds, 11 SC, 23 GPUs and some friends and family. Many thanks to HayesK for his support.

06-11-06, 04:10 PM	#11
AlabamaCajun Team 32 Folding Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: A Labyrinth	That Merome PPD sounds too high. I don't think you can get an 64% increase per Ghz. :? edit: changed 70% to 64% bad calculator __________________ Main Rigs Developement -Phen2-940 AM2, DFI790FX-M2R,Corsair-PC6400 CL4 HD3870,3750XF CDs, Labels, Printing etc- 5000BBE, GA790FX, Wintec 800 4G.HD2600XT Rendering Server- 4x Barcelona 8347s. Tyan S4980 Quad, 16G (2G Kingston per socket). Folding, Testing- Ubuntu and WIN7 - 5600X2 Windsor, Agena 9600, Brisy 5000BBE Theme Park Builder 3D The Game- Build-em and Ride-em. Last edited by AlabamaCajun; 06-12-06 at 02:18 PM.

06-11-06, 06:09 PM	#12
ChasR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta	Merom, Conroe and Woodcrest all have much better SSE2/3 execution than Pentium M, and Yonah so this result shouldn't be too surprising. Note that it's performance on regular Gromacs (72ppd/GHz/core) is about 10% better than Pentium M/Yonah production. It should also be noted that Gromacs production varies more than + or - 10% on the various WUs and 65ppd/GHz is an average on P-M and Yonah so the difference depends on which WU mac was folding.. __________________ 16 Quads, 3 C2Ds, 11 SC, 23 GPUs and some friends and family. Many thanks to HayesK for his support. Last edited by ChasR; 06-11-06 at 11:55 PM.

06-11-06, 08:50 PM	#13
Silver Senior Citizen (aka old fart) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas, Georgia	Ran it against my small farm and for the processors I have it seems rather in line. Found the Celly D's to pull 42PPD/GHz. One of the 754's was at 80PPD/Ghz but tweaked it a tad and it is now at 85.048 which seems to me close enough given the variables. Chasr, why is the Merom pulling so well on the 364's and do you think this will improve or not on the conroes? Stictly SSE? Seems the A64's would hold their own if it were not for the SSE handicap. As it stands now, A64 wins out on Ambers, GBGromacs and Tinkers while merom/conroe win out on Gromacs and Dgromacs. Problem is when the non standards come (and I think they will) the lack of full SSE implementation on the A64 makes the Merom/Conroe a hands down winner. __________________ Xeons 1.6LV at 3.2Ghz 3000+ (754) at 2.5Ghz 2800+ (754) at 2.5Ghz P4 2.8C-478 at 3.4Ghz Celeron 315D at 3.4Ghz Celeron 310D at 3.0Ghz Celeron 335D at 3.7Ghz Celeron 315D at 2.8Ghz C2D E6300 at 3.2Ghz C2D E6300 at 3.0Ghz FOLDING FOR TEAM 32 - 30.7 Ghz Avatar by Shocker - Many Thanks Sir! Last edited by Silver; 06-11-06 at 08:55 PM.

06-12-06, 12:09 AM	#14
ChasR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta	I would expect the Merom and Conroes to do very well on the the 364 pointers, how much better than the P-M and Yonah remains to be seen as I have no data on them. The numbers are coming from a P-M. I'm not sure the merom or conroe will have enough bandwidth to fold two p1481s (they will need close to 5000-6000 MB/sec) concurrently at full speed. __________________ 16 Quads, 3 C2Ds, 11 SC, 23 GPUs and some friends and family. Many thanks to HayesK for his support.

06-20-06, 08:48 PM	#16
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08-27-06, 07:13 PM	#17
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08-27-06, 08:01 PM	#18
ChasR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta	Added a few more edits on Conroe production. I missed answering Silvers question about the difference between A64 and Dothan/Yonah/Conroe & relatives on 364 pointers. I don't beleive it has anything to do with any SSE handicap on the part of an A64 and know of no way to quantify whatever handicap there may be. Cache size appears to be the determining factor in p147x/81 production. 2 MB per instance works great particularly with the low latency of the Intel Core family. __________________ 16 Quads, 3 C2Ds, 11 SC, 23 GPUs and some friends and family. Many thanks to HayesK for his support.

08-27-06, 08:18 PM	#19
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08-28-06, 05:54 AM	#20
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08-28-06, 09:36 AM	#21
harlam357 Senior Fold-a-holic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: @Home... Folding@Home	Thanks David! All I can say is, "man, 'bout time!" ChasR will keep this a great reference for us all with his usual ppd/ghz skill. Of that I have no doubt. __________________ Q9550(C1)@(450x8) 3.6GHz 1.28v \| Gigabyte EP45-UD3P v1.0 F8 bios \| 2x2gb G.Skill@DDR900 5-5-5-15 2T 2.05v \| EVGA GTX275 \| Antec P180 - Corsair 650TX \| WD740GD - WD3200AAKS \| Samsung 2433BW FOLD32: 2xGTX285@1548MHz, GTX275@1566MHz, 2xGTX260-216@1458MHz, Bloomfield 920@3.8GHz, Yorkfield Q9550@3.6GHz, 3xKentsfield Q6600@3.4~3.0GHz, Wolfdale E8400@3.0GHz HFM.NET - Client Monitoring Application for Folding@Home \| I'm a Team 32 Folding Mentor - Ask me about Folding \| Team 32 Folding@Home Intro \| Team 32 F@H FAQ \| Folding/Gaming Room Project \| H's HTPC Build \| Heat (41-0-0)

10-26-06, 08:25 PM	#22
Shelnutt2 Overclockers Team Content Editor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: /home/	bump for the new guys. __________________ Build!.Borg!.Recruit!.Folding.for.Team.32! Gigabyte P35-DS3R, E6300, 2x512MB Team Group DDR2 667, EVGA 7800GT Dell 1505, T5400, 2x512mb DDR2 533Mhz, ATI Mobile X1400, Intel Wireless 3945ABG Heat Your teacher is a dumbass. The equation is exact. ~Frodo Baggins Damn....It's 12:00 AM and I thought my 805 would be a magic pumkin and turn into a conroe.........boy was I fooled ~Stilletto This is what I get for not only being a newb, but also disregarding instructions! ~ShadowPho I hate women... but im not gay lol. ~MrCrowley Love can fade but knowledge stays forever (unless you develop alzheimers). ~Constantinos

10-26-06, 08:31 PM	#23
godofgorks Team 32 Folding Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central PA	yeah a lot of the stickies were pulled since they are linked to in the all inclusive welcome to fah sticky... great thread though, probably looked at it a lot in the past week... __________________ Lappy - Dell 710m, Pentium-M 735, 2gb Desktop- DFI Ultra Infinity, 2600 XP-M, 1gb TCCD, x800pro 16P, 36gb Raptor 2x 1Tb Webserver - Duron 1ghz, 512mb, 2x 8gb WD RAID 1 my HEAT

10-27-06, 04:05 AM	#24
David Super [dichloro(bis(mesityl) imidazolidine)ruthenium methylidene catalysed] Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding in a synthesis laboratory in Glasgow	Going to add the info in a lot of the unstuck stickies to the site, then throw up a link in a sticky about the site or something. __________________ [Super Moderator] \|\| [Penguininja :: Folding@Home Team 32 on the X2] [Penguininja :: Rosetta@Home on the T2400] Laptop :: HP DV8372EA - T2400 / 2 GB RAM / 2x80GB HDD / 7600 go // Windows 7 [and Debian] Desktop :: X2 2.7 GHz @ 2.97 GHz / 6 GB RAM / 2.7 TB of HDD / GeF 8300 // Sabayon 5 McNab, Nelson and Rozgowska, Synthesis, 2009, 13, 2171 Pandian, Hillier, Vincent, Burton, Ashworth, Nelson, Percy and Rinaudo, Chem Phys Lett, 2009, 476, 37 Ashworth, Miles, Nelson, Percy and Singh, Tetrahedron, 2009, 65, 9637 Currently only semi-active - really busy at Uni.

10-27-06, 04:14 AM	#25
Vipersfate Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Valparaiso, IN	Sounds like a good solid guide. What about the Pentium 4s Prescotts, with HT? __________________ The Rig: : AMD Athlon II X3 425 @ 2.9Ghz : ECS IC780M-A2 : 4GB DDR3 1333 OCZ GOLD : Asus EAH5750 : Her Rig : Intel E5200 2.5Ghz @ Stock : ASrock 775i945GZ: 3GB DDR2 800 : HIS 4650HD : The Lappy : AMD Athlon II X2 M300 : Toshiba L505: 3GB DDR2 800 : ATi 4200 : The Server : Pentium 4 3.0Ghz 1MB : Optiplex 280: 1GB DDR2 800 : ATi 3650HD :

10-27-06, 07:41 AM	#26
ChasR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta	These numbers are all from P4s with HT but running one instance. It's not possible to give reliable numbers on them when running two instances because each instance influences the speed of the other. In general you can go from less than 50% of these numbers per instance to 65% of these numbers per instance depending on the WUs. Intel Netburst without using HT (p4 based, numbers based on Dual channel ram @ 2-2-2) Ambers: 40ppd/GHz/core Gromacs: 40ppd/GHz/core DGromacs: 95ppd/GHz/core P4C to 110ppd/GHz/core Pressler GBGromacs: 40ppd/GHz/core Tinkers: 49ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (600 pointers) 85ppd/GHz/core Big Gromacs (364 pointers) 95 to 170ppd/GHz/core depending on cache size QMDs: Celeron 90ppd/GHz, P4C 145ppd/GHz, P4E 155ppd/GHz __________________ 16 Quads, 3 C2Ds, 11 SC, 23 GPUs and some friends and family. Many thanks to HayesK for his support. Last edited by ChasR; 10-27-06 at 08:09 AM.

02-24-07, 03:38 PM	#27
allen1090 Team 32 Folding Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Edmonton	any chance this could get an update for SMP folding? __________________ Q6600 B3 @3.28 >> Ultra 120ex P5k Deluxe 2xgb1 Crucial Ballistax 8800gts 640 A3@ 646/899 >> BenQ FP241W + Samsung 940B Seagate 320+200 Z-5500

02-24-07, 04:15 PM	#28
allen1090 Team 32 Folding Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Edmonton	jws, this is already in the sticky with all the usefull links __________________ Q6600 B3 @3.28 >> Ultra 120ex P5k Deluxe 2xgb1 Crucial Ballistax 8800gts 640 A3@ 646/899 >> BenQ FP241W + Samsung 940B Seagate 320+200 Z-5500

07-13-07, 03:30 PM	#29
Morvak Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	I have a question - with my rig below (sig) - if I were to get involved, what kind of output would my modest machine put out? Would I be a user always at the low end of the contribution list if I fold 24/7? Middle of the list? Are those that have farms the ones at the tops of the charts? And would my machine be a Gromac? (i dont understand any of that LOL) TIA!