Overclocked A64 3500 venice... Not that impressive?

NorCalJason · 08-11-06, 11:16 PM

Well... after a LOT of trouble, I finally got my new motherboard/processor combo up and running. Although, on games (WoW) it seems SLOWER than my old combo?

Old Combo:

Athalon XP OC'd to 2.2ghz.
1 gig mixed ram (old 256 + older 256 + new kinsgston DDR400)
ATI X1600 pro
7400rpm Hard Drive

New Combo

A64 Venice 3500 OC'd slightly (wouldn't take anymore) @ 2.3ghz
512 mem (kingston DDR400)
Ati X1600 pro
7400rpm Hard Drive

When loading windows, it loads a LOT faster, other than that.... NOt impressive? In fact, since I can't use the extra ram, it plays WoW WORSE (it constantly stutters during game play).

I've updated all the devices with new drivers. Did a clean install of windows XP SP2, and defragged my HD.

Am I missing something?

Oh... the old setup 3DMark05'd at 4200. New setup is at 4700.

Jason

||Console|| · 08-12-06, 01:06 AM

well i think you know whats wrong you need more ram .
2.3ghz on a vennice 3500+ isnt that stock 2.2ghz? for sure even with no voltage jump we can get the oc up what settings and what hardware are you running

inkfx · 08-12-06, 03:23 AM

The ram is definately holding you back in WoW. World of Warcraft loves huge amounts of memory and the more the better. What motherboard are you using? Like Console said, you should be able to push more out of that system than 2.3Ghz. What sort of cooling are you using and what kind of temps are you getting?

hitbyaprkedcar7 · 08-12-06, 06:56 AM

Try to push it to at least 2.5, and definatly invest in a 2 gig kit for WoW. I dont personaly play it (not my type of game) But my friend trys with 512mb of ram, and its horribly stuttery and laggy. I brought over a 512 stick one day, popped it in, and it ran so much smoother. Amazing what another 512 can do...

Get atleast a gig, but id recomend 2 gigs

NorCalJason · 08-12-06, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ||Console||

2.3ghz on a vennice 3500+ isnt that stock 2.2ghz? for sure even with no voltage jump we can get the oc up what settings and what hardware are you running

The motherboard is a ECS KV2 Lite.

I followed the instructions on the sticky here to find the limits of my memory, HTT, FSB, and processor.

My memory didn't like anything over 210mhz.
HTT maxed out at 210x5
FSB went to 240mhz
Processor didn't like anything above 235x10.
All at 1.55v

Temps are still low. Under full load it gets to ~36c, and it Idle I've seen 28c.

||Console|| · 08-12-06, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalJason

The motherboard is a ECS KV2 Lite.

I followed the instructions on the sticky here to find the limits of my memory, HTT, FSB, and processor.

My memory didn't like anything over 210mhz.
HTT maxed out at 210x5
FSB went to 240mhz
Processor didn't like anything above 235x10.
All at 1.55v

Temps are still low. Under full load it gets to ~36c, and it Idle I've seen 28c.

well try it again to find the max htt again @like 7multy but @stock V not 1.5

Celada · 08-12-06, 02:57 PM

Reduce the multi for the htt, use a diveder for the ram and you are god to go

NorCalJason · 08-12-06, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Celada

Reduce the multi for the htt, use a diveder for the ram and you are god to go

Been there...done that.

Reduced HTT to 600 (3x), Ran memory divider at 133htz, put multi to 5x.

That's how I got the FSB to 240. At 245, it refused to boot.

NorCalJason · 08-12-06, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ||Console||

well try it again to find the max htt again @like 7multy but @stock V not 1.5

I'll give this a try to see what happens. Why at stock voltage?

freeagent · 08-12-06, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalJason

I'll give this a try to see what happens. Why at stock voltage?

because not every cpu needs alot of voltage to oc.. some actually oc better at low volts.

||Console|| · 08-12-06, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalJason

I'll give this a try to see what happens. Why at stock voltage?

because @ that voltage you will be putting out more heat than needed , since you are going to be running way below stock speeds @ a 7 multi you wont need the high voltage/heat to boot @ those low speeds . I just cant see a venice only overclocking 100mhz , Since your ram doesnt seem to oc and it has high timmings defently use dividers and you will oc much farther

NorCalJason · 08-12-06, 06:23 PM

**update**

Flashed new bios. Disabled the 'AMD cooling' feature in the BIOS.

Got it up to 270mhz x 8, once. Couldn't get it near that again (wierd?)

Right now it's running 240x11. or 2.64ghz.

exactopposite · 08-12-06, 07:27 PM

glad u got that figured out

NorCalJason · 08-12-06, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by exactopposite

glad u got that figured out

Yeah me too. And btw... this thing freaking screams! The difference between 2200htz and 2640htz is amazing!

JOW! · 08-13-06, 12:15 AM

just curious, how many volts are you putting in to get 2640? I'm putting 1.55 through my 3500+ to get 2600 stable.

||Console|| · 08-13-06, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NorCalJason

Yeah me too. And btw... this thing freaking screams! The difference between 2200htz and 2640htz is amazing!

Yea there is a big jump =) I told ya we could get that overclock up higher with a lil bit of work =) Now the only thing you have to watch out for is ....
Overclocking is adictive =) have fun

NorCalJason · 08-13-06, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JOW!

just curious, how many volts are you putting in to get 2640? I'm putting 1.55 through my 3500+ to get 2600 stable.

I'm at 1.55 also.

IWasHungry · 08-13-06, 04:02 AM

Nice work. But I still think you need >512MB of RAM there silly. <3

NorCalJason · 08-13-06, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IWasHungry

Nice work. But I still think you need >512MB of RAM there silly. <3

I completely agree. I'm trying to decide if I add 512k or try to stretch another gig or two... AND... what speed I need.

NorCalJason · 08-15-06, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IWasHungry

Nice work. But I still think you need >512MB of RAM there silly. <3

***Update***

Added 1gb patriot kit of DDR400 ram. I now have a stability issue I"m trying to figure out, but on WoW this rig screams!

Jason

08-11-06, 11:16 PM	Thread Starter #1
NorCalJason Registered Join Date: Jun 2005	Overclocked A64 3500 venice... Not that impressive? Well... after a LOT of trouble, I finally got my new motherboard/processor combo up and running. Although, on games (WoW) it seems SLOWER than my old combo? Old Combo: Athalon XP OC'd to 2.2ghz. 1 gig mixed ram (old 256 + older 256 + new kinsgston DDR400) ATI X1600 pro 7400rpm Hard Drive New Combo A64 Venice 3500 OC'd slightly (wouldn't take anymore) @ 2.3ghz 512 mem (kingston DDR400) Ati X1600 pro 7400rpm Hard Drive When loading windows, it loads a LOT faster, other than that.... NOt impressive? In fact, since I can't use the extra ram, it plays WoW WORSE (it constantly stutters during game play). I've updated all the devices with new drivers. Did a clean install of windows XP SP2, and defragged my HD. Am I missing something? Oh... the old setup 3DMark05'd at 4200. New setup is at 4700. Jason
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\|\|Console\|\| Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Halifax, NS	well i think you know whats wrong you need more ram . 2.3ghz on a vennice 3500+ isnt that stock 2.2ghz? for sure even with no voltage jump we can get the oc up what settings and what hardware are you running __________________ [CPU]---[E8400 E0 @ 4.5ghz 1.38v][MainBoard]---[XFX 780I] [GFX]---[ATI 6950 2Gig ][RAM]---[OCZ PC-6400 2x2gig 5-4-4-15 @ 1.9v ] [PSU]---[Corsair HX 620w][Cooling]---[Antec 900 / TR 120E ] [Display]---[ Ben-Q E2200HD 1920x1080][HDDs]---[ 3x250 Seagate 7200.10 Raid 0 /2x1Tb WD Storage] " If that Bong is filled with the right stuff you wouldn't give a damn how much noise the cooling system made lol" ViperJohn
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inkfx Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas	The ram is definately holding you back in WoW. World of Warcraft loves huge amounts of memory and the more the better. What motherboard are you using? Like Console said, you should be able to push more out of that system than 2.3Ghz. What sort of cooling are you using and what kind of temps are you getting? __________________ \| Dell Studio17 Laptop \| \| T9300 @ 2.5Ghz - ATI 3850 - 3GB RAM - Seagate 320GB 7200rpm - 17" (1920x1200) Glossy widescreen \| Windows 7 64-bit \|
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Celada Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Slovenia	Reduce the multi for the htt, use a diveder for the ram and you are god to go
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08-12-06, 06:23 PM	Thread Starter #12
NorCalJason Registered Join Date: Jun 2005	update Flashed new bios. Disabled the 'AMD cooling' feature in the BIOS. Got it up to 270mhz x 8, once. Couldn't get it near that again (wierd?) Right now it's running 240x11. or 2.64ghz.
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exactopposite Member Join Date: Dec 2005	glad u got that figured out
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JOW! Member Join Date: Jan 2006	just curious, how many volts are you putting in to get 2640? I'm putting 1.55 through my 3500+ to get 2600 stable.
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IWasHungry Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seattle, WA	Nice work. But I still think you need >512MB of RAM there silly. <3
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