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P4 D805 at P5B Deluxe Wifi board Bios 0507, got this crazy temp at picture below and weird CPUZ VCore at 2.464 ?

Fyi, the same CPU on other board 945 was constantly idling at 40C and load 55C.

Question, isn't that CPU temp supposed to be throttling like hell ? Or its just sensor ?

Comment or suggestion please ?

[MERKiN]

That 72*C is... really high, most chips start acting up in the 60s. So thats why i think its throttling like you say it is. Its way way way too hot to do anything properly.

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Yeah, I though so but look at the ThrottleWatch screen middle row "TM2 Throttling History", no even single spike and also the frequency too which is a reliable way to detect throttling right ? or no ?

Any other tool that I can use to detect throttling consistently ?

Is it possible that high temp reading caused by crappy/un-calibrated cpu sensor ?

About the VCore difference, I think CPUZ isn't correct displaying it !

[johnsally]

is cpu throttle enabled in bios?

[Nandro]

Mind dosent throttle right at 70, but thats the limit it reaches at 3.9-4ghz If I go lower the max temp is about 68C so I run her at 3.8 or so till I get better cooling.

[Nautica]

Id check to ensure you have the tm2 enabled in the bios then reseat the hsf with a fresh t.i.m application.

have you tried to use any 3rd party apps to check your temp? theres a few out there like core temp you could try to see if it reads it any diffrently.

[Nandro]

the sensor could be positioned a bit off also, I remember on my amd boards you could actually bend them up a bit to be more accurate. Didnt go well for comapring temps with others because there's werent bent. I never had an intel board before this so I dont know if its a movable sensor in the socket.

[bing]

Originally Posted by johnsally

is cpu throttle enabled in bios?

Yes, it is enabled at BIOS. Everything is at "DEFAULT" safe & boring mode !

[bing]

Originally Posted by Nautica

Id check to ensure you have the tm2 enabled in the bios then reseat the hsf with a fresh t.i.m application.

have you tried to use any 3rd party apps to check your temp? theres a few out there like core temp you could try to see if it reads it any diffrently.

Where ? This is not Core, its just P4 D805 ! If I'm not mistaken, the CoreTemp program can not detect anything below Core generation right ?

The latest SpeedFan is not updated yet to detect this mobo sensor !

[pscout]

I have only run my p5b-d with e6400 ... it is the only conroe mobo that i have that I didn't test with one of my pressler/smithfields

Are you sure your hsf is seated right on the cpu temp issue? Is it constantly reading 70 or just at load? If it's that hot you should be able to verify with a finger test depending on what your hsf is?

What hsf are you using and is it the same one you ran the 805 with on your 945 board?

As far as cpu settings go, i have all mine disabled ... eist/c1e would never operate on mine anyway since it folds at 100% load 724.

This mobo doesn't seem to have sporadic flakey temp readings from asus probe like my p5w dh does.

Did you run with 0405 bios? ... that is what i have been using but i would expect a newer bios to improve things not break them but it is software so bugs are possible.

I think i have read that cpu-z doesnt read vc properly on new conroe mobo's ... i would rely on asus probe over it.

Also, my p5b-d reads higher cpu temps on my 6400 at same load and vc as when i run it in the ds3. over a 10C difference using the same hsf on both mobos!
Sort of like the abit vs asus temp deltas on the older p4 mobos?

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Originally Posted by pscout

Are you sure your hsf is seated right on the cpu temp issue? Is it constantly reading 70 or just at load? If it's that hot you should be able to verify with a finger test depending on what your hsf is?

What hsf are you using and is it the same one you ran the 805 with on your 945 board?

Well, I'm pretty sure the hsf is properly seated, its a stock cooler with luke warm same as before when they were at 945 board. Those are the same hsf & D805, also look at above CPUZ, it was only running standard clock speed !

Lets "assume" that the HSF isn't properly seated, the throttling screen must be full with lot of spikes right ? Which proggy did you use to detect cpu throttle ?

As far as cpu settings go, i have all mine disabled ... eist/c1e would never operate on mine anyway since it folds at 100% load 724.

This mobo doesn't seem to have sporadic flakey temp readings from asus probe like my p5w dh does.

Did you run with 0405 bios? ... that is what i have been using but i would expect a newer bios to improve things not break them but it is software so bugs are possible.

Good idea, I will download all those BIOS revisions and starting to do the hunt on each versions !

I think i have read that cpu-z doesnt read vc properly on new conroe mobo's ... i would rely on asus probe over it.

Yeah, 2.64 Volt is scary !

Even it was caused by sensor and isn't reflecting the true temp (much more lower or normal), my problem is the fan is running too loud !

Also, my p5b-d reads higher cpu temps on my 6400 at same load and vc as when i run it in the ds3. over a 10C difference using the same hsf on both mobos!
Sort of like the abit vs asus temp deltas on the older p4 mobos?

10C ? Wow, that is huge. What was that abit vs asus things all about ?

Before I sort it out 1st, looks like I have to live with this boring stock speed.

[johnsally]

Originally Posted by bing

Well, I'm pretty sure the hsf is properly seated, its a stock cooler with luke warm same as before when they were at 945 board. Those are the same hsf & D805, also look at above CPUZ, it was only running standard clock speed !

Lets "assume" that the HSF isn't properly seated, the throttling screen must be full with lot of spikes right ? Which proggy did you use to detect cpu throttle ?




Good idea, I will download all those BIOS revisions and starting to do the hunt on each versions !



Yeah, 2.64 Volt is scary !

Even it was caused by sensor and isn't reflecting the true temp (much more lower or normal), my problem is the fan is running too loud !




10C ? Wow, that is huge. What was that abit vs asus things all about ?

Before I sort it out 1st, looks like I have to live with this boring stock speed.

i think its showing 2.64, because maybe you have an older bios? i think you are running at 1.32 with 2 cores it thinks its 2.64 on cpuz.

[pscout]

I don't monitor for throttling ... folding will error if my temps get too high, long before throttle kicks in. So i watch temps and monitor all my folding instances closely for errors.

There were some old threads and articles around comparing how asus mobos tended to read temps much lower than abits, Not really a problem once you figure out what normal is for the mobo and cpu.

The stock fan running loud is cuz the bios is telling it to since it thinks temps are too high, and maybe they really are?

Have you replaced/cleaned that waxy TIM that stock hsf's have and put some better as5 or similar on the cpu/hsf? Too much or too little can create heat probs.

I am assumming as well that the stock cooler is dust free?

Is this running in a case, ... does it have good airflow, .... there are some good stickies over in the cooling section.


running out of ideas here ...

[Nandro]

Are you running with the side off the case? If not try that and see if it helps at all. Maybe something is blocking air flow.

[greenmaji]

I would think the sensor is off and make it trottle on purpose (up the volts) and see what the temp sensor says when it does it.
Then check what the trottle temp is suppose to be for your processor on specfinder, and do some subtraction to get what the temps really are.

^^^^This is the intended use of trottle watch by the way IIRC.

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Originally Posted by greenmaji

I would think the sensor is off and make it trottle on purpose (up the volts) and see what the temp sensor says when it does it.
Then check what the trottle temp is suppose to be for your processor on specfinder, and do some subtraction to get what the temps really are.

^^^^This is the intended use of trottle watch by the way IIRC.

Thanks for the good idea.

Will work out for the temperature offset once I got a chance to pull it out from the casing and run it on the bench.

Intel TM2 supposed to be fool proof right ? Other wise this will force me to push that C2D purchase button.

[greenmaji]

Its suppose to be fool proof.. your not suppose to be able to kill one with heat (troddle kicks in and it cools down)