Final Fantasy 12 [spoilers page 2]

UnrealAlex · 10-30-06, 06:34 PM

Is it just me or do the graphics look worse than in FFX?
It looks like they went with the FF8 customizations as well, which are crapy imo...I was hoping for another FFX

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/fina...reenindex.html

sephiroth_749 · 10-30-06, 06:43 PM

ive played the demo and teh graphics look better than that picture and it seems like a really good game from what parts that ive have played. the battel system has been redone and is kind of cool in a way.

UnrealAlex · 10-30-06, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sephiroth_749

ive played the demo and teh graphics look better than that picture and it seems like a really good game from what parts that ive have played. the battel system has been redone and is kind of cool in a way.

What about the story line? Is it as interesting as FFX?
I'm gona have to borrow my friend's PS2

UBERCOOL · 10-30-06, 07:53 PM

I have the game and I think it is freaking amazing. I am pretty sure that the cinematics are done with the same cgi as the final fantasy VII movie. Also, that screen shot is terrible, in game graphics are a lot better than that.

mage_x · 10-30-06, 08:25 PM

From what I've heard, the story is very good and is the most mature of the series. I'll probably be picking this up tomorrow (if they have any).

Gabbiani · 10-31-06, 09:25 AM

So far its been very good. Only @ 2 hours in though.

Graphics wise, go /whine somewhere else. The ps2 is ancient. Seems they had to pick and choose where to put the detail. Faces have good detail, whie terrain is lacking. Sitting still its easy to pick out stuff that isn't pretty, but the motions are very fluid. Everything looks better while moving, which is what you are doing pretty much all of the time.

Combat feels a lot like FFXI, but much faster and the story/world feels much better.

shard · 10-31-06, 10:53 AM

Picked it up at the midnight release, and I absolutely LOVE IT! Played for 3 hours, and hit the sack, had to work in the morning

But it looks fantastic even on my aging Direct View TV, and the story line so far is by far the best premise I have seen in ANY FF game to date, that and the art style if simply amazing

blueswitch · 10-31-06, 11:10 AM

I'm surprised to hear everyone liking the story, from what I have heard the story wasn't very good and the main character is shallow. I hear the new fighting system is really cool...but that you end up doing nothing but melee attacks all the time. From what I have seen though the graphics do look pretty good...the enemies look pretty original.

zexmarquies01 · 10-31-06, 01:30 PM

wow, i'm suprised people are complaining about the graphics NOW.

it has been said over a YEAR ago, that Square decided to use almost Half ( not quite half ) the polygons in the characters than they did in FFX.

i'm tempted to pick this up myself. but i need to hear some reviews on it, and hear how good the story is.

and god, i could only hope its more like FF8, and less like FFX.

Fireside85281 · 10-31-06, 03:37 PM

I read awhile back that for Square to push the graphics, they raised texture levels while decreasing resolution. It didn't sound like a good idea at the time.

mage_x · 10-31-06, 03:39 PM

I picked up it up today before school just so I would get one before they ran out. They still had a wall full of CE's, though. Very nice metal case.

UnrealAlex · 10-31-06, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zexmarquies01

wow, i'm suprised people are complaining about the graphics NOW.

it has been said over a YEAR ago, that Square decided to use almost Half ( not quite half ) the polygons in the characters than they did in FFX.

why would they do that? and what didn't you like about FFX, it was awesome D:
Hardcore FF fans say it was bad but it was my first FF game, and I tried FF7 and 8 afterwards and couldn't enjoy them as much.

mage_x · 10-31-06, 05:16 PM

I hated FFX compared to all the others.

genghisjohn · 10-31-06, 05:39 PM

Circuit City has it for 38$.
Walmart will match the price, can't wait to play it!!!

RedDragonXXX · 10-31-06, 06:02 PM

Check out the great review at gametrailers

From the sound of that, it doesn't seem that great.

blueswitch · 10-31-06, 08:41 PM

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Check out the great review at gametrailers

From the sound of that, it doesn't seem that great.

I watched that earlier today Red and thought the same thing....it's probably not a bad game, but the negatives were gameplay and story...which is what an RPG mostly is built on...if the game is repedative to play why do I care how good the music score is....I dunno my roomate will probably pick this up eventually so maybe I'll try it then if she does buy it.

tenchi86 · 10-31-06, 10:37 PM

Just picked it up, will be giving it a full test over the next few days and will be sure to post back.

RedDragonXXX · 10-31-06, 11:19 PM

Hmmm, I'm thinking about picking this up. Just need to dig out my PS2 out of the closet.

I don't remember but does PS2 support HD and if yes has anyone played it on HDTV?

Fireside85281 · 10-31-06, 11:26 PM

Picked up a copy and gave it a go on the 2407. It didn't look too crisp, but it does support 16:9 widescreen! Maybe I can make it look nicer if I check out the settings more though.

zexmarquies01 · 10-31-06, 11:32 PM

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Hmmm, I'm thinking about picking this up. Just need to dig out my PS2 out of the closet.

I don't remember but does PS2 support HD and if yes has anyone played it on HDTV?

well, the PS2 WILL do progressive scan. can't remember off hand at what resolution. But i'd bet its at 480p.

And its the GAMES what will dictate wheather it will use Progressive scan or not, not the console itself.

And the reason some people give it a low score on the Story, is the fact that your main character isn't charted with the quest to save the world, as we are all used to. The game is much more political in terms of the story. The reason is that the people who made the story for Final Fantasy Tactics, and vagrant story created the story for FFXII. Basicly, for those who loved the type of story that FF Tactics gave, you should like this story as well.

and i LOVED FF tactics! the story was great! very in-debth, and could get quite confusing at times. Simply because the game is more political, and the story makers of tactics wrote the story for 12, i REALLY want to play this game now!

so make sure you check the back of the box, and on the bottom where it tells you how many players it is, and how much space it uses on memory cards, it will also tell you if its progressive scan capable or not.

and like firside said, some games will allow the full use of a Widescreen. But some won't, again you have to check the back of the Game's box to find out.

And yes, square did use nearly half the polygon count on FFXII compaired to FFX, so they could increase the texture detail, and use less space so they could fill the game with a bit more content, such as flashier spells, more different looking monsters, and naturally, more FMV's.

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10-30-06, 08:25 PM	#5
mage_x Member Join Date: Oct 2002	From what I've heard, the story is very good and is the most mature of the series. I'll probably be picking this up tomorrow (if they have any).
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10-31-06, 09:25 AM	#6
Gabbiani Member Join Date: Dec 2004	So far its been very good. Only @ 2 hours in though. Graphics wise, go /whine somewhere else. The ps2 is ancient. Seems they had to pick and choose where to put the detail. Faces have good detail, whie terrain is lacking. Sitting still its easy to pick out stuff that isn't pretty, but the motions are very fluid. Everything looks better while moving, which is what you are doing pretty much all of the time. Combat feels a lot like FFXI, but much faster and the story/world feels much better. __________________ E6400 @ 440 x 8 and going faster Gigabyte DS3 f5 bios BBA x800 xl @ 450/1100 2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 (Boots @ 1.8V with DS3) Raptor for OS / Seagate 7200.10 x2 Raid 0 for everything else TDX + Maze4 + '77 HC x2 + DD pump + Custom Double Wide OCZ 520w Monster Benq 20.1" Widescreen The Ugly Cubeling
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blueswitch Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Denver, CO	I'm surprised to hear everyone liking the story, from what I have heard the story wasn't very good and the main character is shallow. I hear the new fighting system is really cool...but that you end up doing nothing but melee attacks all the time. From what I have seen though the graphics do look pretty good...the enemies look pretty original. __________________ Fold for Team 32! _________________________________________ MSI MS-1029 Turion MT-37, Lancaster 2ghz X700, 128mb 2gb OCZ PC3200 My Heatware
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Fireside85281 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tempe, AZ	I read awhile back that for Square to push the graphics, they raised texture levels while decreasing resolution. It didn't sound like a good idea at the time.
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mage_x Member Join Date: Oct 2002	I picked up it up today before school just so I would get one before they ran out. They still had a wall full of CE's, though. Very nice metal case.
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10-31-06, 05:16 PM	#13
mage_x Member Join Date: Oct 2002	I hated FFX compared to all the others.
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RedDragonXXX Senior RAM Pornographer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Check out the great review at gametrailers From the sound of that, it doesn't seem that great.
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RedDragonXXX Senior RAM Pornographer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Hmmm, I'm thinking about picking this up. Just need to dig out my PS2 out of the closet. I don't remember but does PS2 support HD and if yes has anyone played it on HDTV?
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Fireside85281 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tempe, AZ	Picked up a copy and gave it a go on the 2407. It didn't look too crisp, but it does support 16:9 widescreen! Maybe I can make it look nicer if I check out the settings more though.
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