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Old 12-19-06, 11:32 PM Thread Starter   #1
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If you change your motherboard....


If you buy a new motherboard is it really necessary to format and erase your hard drive, or can you just remove the drivers for the motherboard and install the ones for the new one?

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A reformat is highly recommended after a motherboard swap. Since you are running windows, you might as well wipe all the crud and start fresh anyway. Just think of it as an early spring cleaning

If you cannot afford the time/effort, you could get by with using Driver Cleaner and just installing the new drivers.
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Old 12-19-06, 11:45 PM Thread Starter   #3
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A reformat is highly recommended after a motherboard swap. Since you are running windows, you might as well wipe all the crud and start fresh anyway. Just think of it as an early spring cleaning

If you cannot afford the time/effort, you could get by with using Driver Cleaner and just installing the new drivers.
Now which would i be selecting in driver cleaner to get rid of all the motherboard drivers, would it just be the nforce chipset drivers, im using a chaintech vnf-250 right now with the nforce3

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the only reason i ask this is cus i reformatted the other day and now i got a new motherboard on the way and i really really didnt want to have to go thru that again lol i got gigs and gigs of info that i would have to transfer back to another computer and then back to this one again, it takes hours.

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I have never (never!!!) heard of a good Mobo swap without a fresh OS load. It might be possible (after many hours of work arounds), but every glitch/hiccup that happens down the road will have you wondering if it's the Mobo swap or something else.

It sucks having to start from scratch, but in the end it feels great to have nice, clean system to play around with.
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Old 12-19-06, 11:53 PM Thread Starter   #6
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I have never (never!!!) heard of a good Mobo swap without a fresh OS load. It might be possible (after many hours of work arounds), but every glitch/hiccup that happens down the road will have you wondering if it's the Mobo swap or something else.

It sucks having to start from scratch, but in the end it feels great to have nice, clean system to play around with.
gona be another long night when all these parts come in

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If it were me in your situation, I would just bite the bullet and take a few extra hours to reformat, save myself a potential hassle in the future
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Old 12-20-06, 12:27 AM Thread Starter   #8
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Found this article on anandtech
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y



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This article is written for Microsoft Windows XP, the information is still valid for Windows 2000 (all versions) but may vary slightly.

When swapping out motherboards it's common practice to reinstall the OS (windows), because of a chipset incompatibility, this is unnecessary. There is a time and place for OS reinstalls, but if your OS is running like a champ, and your just upgrading to a new mobo/cpu/ram, or just a new mobo you have other options.

There are two methods available, the first involves running a repair on the OS, the other uses a program called Sysprep. I strongly recommend the sysprep method over the repair method because it makes less changes to the OS and gets the job done. In fact, this tool is meant specifically for the job.

There are down sides to the repair method commonly used, other than the fact it takes 10x as long. Here are the potential problems to the repair method (also called an in-place upgrade).
[L=Loss of program settings.]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=312369[/L]
[L=Data loss.]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=312368[/L]
And you must reinstall ALL windows updates and service packs, since the files copied from the CD are not patched.

Sysprep
First let me describe what Sysprep is, and why it's useful to us. Sysprep is a tool used in creating HDD images for mass deployment, where the hardware can vary from machine to machine. The general idea is, you setup a PC, install all the software you want, make all the setting changes to the OS and applications. Then run Sysprep, which will remove all hardware IDs from the OS. At this point, you would want to create an image of the machine, but we are not creating images for mass deployment. I am just outlining what the tool does, we will be using it differently.

The next time the PC boots it will run a Mini-Setup Wizard and re-detect your hardware just like the first time Windows was installed. You can setup the image to have drivers ready for your different hardware, but that ins't necessary for what we are doing. We are only deploying this to a single PC, yours, and you can download the drivers by hand yourself.

Now lets go into the actual process.

1. Download drivers for your motherboard and especially your network card. When you blow away your current setup it's nice to have these ready to install. The network card is essential, you mush have this driver handy in case XP doesn't. Otherwise you will be downloading from another PC just so you can get on the internet.

Also of special note is the mass storage controller. If you are using a non-naitive drive controller on the new motherboard, you will need to add these OEM driver to the sysprep.inf. Anything that requires a floppy driver disk and using F2 during the normal windows setup requires a mass storage controller. See the links below for adding OEM drivers. The section of sysprep.inf you'll need to look at is [SysprepMassStorage] and the -bmsd switch on sysprep.exe.

2. Extract the Sysprep 2.0 files from your XP CD (\support\tools\deploy.cab) to c:\sysprep. The deploy.cab can be downloaded [L=here.]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7a83123d-507b-4095-9d9d-0a195f7b5f69&DisplayLang=en[/L]
I'm not sure if Sysprep 2.0 works on Windows 2K, I assume so (have not tested this). I know Sysprep 1.1 does work, that can be downloaded [L=here.]http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/tools/sysprep/default.asp[/L]

3. Run Sysprep.exe

4. Select Mini-Setup, PnP, and then Reseal. Your PC should shut down when complete.

5. Install the new motherboard and or other hardware.

6. Boot the machine, it will show screens similar to when XP was first installed, this is the Mini-Setup Wizard.

7. At this point the instructions will vary depending on your hardware, you will be prompted for drivers that Windows does not already have.

8. Once you have installed the drivers you are ready to go.

Possible issues/advice with Sysprep.
[L=General SysPrep Info.]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302577[/L]
[L=Adding OEM drivers.]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;254078[/L]
[L=Error in recovery console: The Password Is Not Valid.]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308402[/L]
[L=BSOD error: STOP 0x0000007B or INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316401[/L]
[L=Unsupported Scenarios.]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828287[/L]

note: This article was originally posted by me on the Hard|Forums in case this looks familiar to anyone.

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Old 12-20-06, 01:15 AM   #9
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Hey, it's worth a shot. If it doesn't work out, then there's always plan B

I'd be very interested in hearing how it turns out, make sure you have all of your drivers and a good backup of your data.

I wonder if you will have to activate windows again?
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Old 12-20-06, 01:21 AM Thread Starter   #10
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Hey, it's worth a shot. If it doesn't work out, then there's always plan B

I'd be very interested in hearing how it turns out, make sure you have all of your drivers and a good backup of your data.

I wonder if you will have to activate windows again?
I dont know, but my particular version isnt exactly....validated...if you know what i mean.

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