Vista Licensing 32bit and 64bit

dominick32 · 02-04-07, 10:37 PM

Guys. Some of you are probably aware that I am ditching my current rig and building up a new Vapochilled QX6700, P5B Deluxe, 4 Gigs of OCZ Titanium Ram rig. I purchased Vista Ultimate Edition 32 bit OEM from Newegg.com

My question to you: Lets say in 3 months I would like to get my hands on a copy of 64 Bit Ultimate OEM.

1. Will my license and CD key allow me to activate both the 32 bit or 64 bit Vista, and vice versa?

2. Will Microsoft send me a copy of the 64 bit Vista if I pay them shipping charges and prove to them that I own a copy of 32-bit ultimate?

or #3. Am I crap out of luck because the OEM edition cannot be upgraded, transferred, etc. etc.

Thanks in advance,
Dom

sno.lcn · 02-04-07, 10:43 PM

From what I understand, it's #3, from what I understand, with the key you can activate one or the other, even with the ones that come with both

dominick32 · 02-04-07, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

From what I understand, it's #3, from what I understand, with the key you can activate one or the other, even with the ones that come with both

Wow, so this means I need to buy another copy of 64 bit Vista in the future for $200?? Thats ludicris.

deathman20 · 02-04-07, 11:55 PM

You could sell it or cancel the order before it comes and take my suggestion as well. I tried to do more digging into it this afternoon and it just seems to be SOL all around with OEM's. Only plus side is you could have it on 2 PC's for the same price as the full blown Ultimate edition.

ponkan pinoy · 02-05-07, 12:41 AM

If you are absolutely certain that you won't need 64-bit for the entire lifetime of the machine then the OEM's probably the best choice, otherwise deathman's suggestion of cancelling the order would probably be wise.

dominick32 · 02-05-07, 08:37 AM

This is a really tough decision guys... LOL
64 bit or 32 bit????????????????????
Cancel or dont cancel the order? Damn you Microsoft.

Surfrider77 · 02-05-07, 09:32 AM

Dom, my personal opinion is go with 64 bit. You will only kick yourself in the ass, and/or be out $200 down the road.

I plan on going Vista Ultimate 64bit when RC1 hits the streets. I wont even waste my time on 32bit, as everything is slowly migrating over to 64.

d.chatten · 02-05-07, 09:35 AM

For retail versions of Vista you can use the same license/product key to install and activate both the 32bit and 64bit versions of Vista but only on one machine at a time and you can only install the 64bit or 32bit, not both, you can however install Vista 32bit and at a later date install Vista 64bit, if you then decide to go back to Vista 32bit or Vista 64bit, you can.

For OEM versions of Vista you can only use the license/product key for the version you have, eg:32bit product key for the 32bit version only, not the 64bit version, and the 64bit product key for the 64bit version only.

dominick32 · 02-05-07, 09:54 AM

Damn guys. Looks like Newegg is going to be getting a return from me.
Let me just double check on some things. Do we have 64 bit signed drivers for this stuff:

1. EVGA 8800GTX
2. Creative XFI Xtreme Music
3. 965 Chipset Drivers
4. Marvell/Yukon Wan Winiport Drivers
5. Intel Matrix Storage Manager

Also, what kind of software compatibility issues am I looking at here?

Thanks.
Dom

dominick32 · 02-05-07, 09:57 AM

Check this out guys. NEWEGGS return policy:
Retail software : Unopened within 30 days
OEM Software: NON REFUNDABLE!!!!

I am **** out of luck!

deathman20 · 02-05-07, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominick32

Damn guys. Looks like Newegg is going to be getting a return from me.
Let me just double check on some things. Do we have 64 bit signed drivers for this stuff:

1. EVGA 8800GTX
2. Creative XFI Xtreme Music
3. 965 Chipset Drivers
4. Marvell/Yukon Wan Winiport Drivers
5. Intel Matrix Storage Manager

Also, what kind of software compatibility issues am I looking at here?

Thanks.
Dom

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes (actually I never installed anything for this so it was automatically installed already)
4) Yes (but getting the latest is advised)
5) They did for 32-bit I haven't installed the software for 64-bit and I am running raid but I know they had 64-bit beta's

Remember you can kill required signatures.

Surfrider77 · 02-05-07, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominick32

Check this out guys. NEWEGGS return policy:
Retail software : Unopened within 30 days
OEM Software: NON REFUNDABLE!!!!

I am **** out of luck!

You may simply try and call them on the phone. You arent actually getting a refund, you are getting an exchange (32b for 64b) on an unopened item. Newegg are generally very good over the phone. Its worth a shot.

custom90gt · 02-06-07, 05:40 PM

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ons/64bit.mspx
may help you out

02-04-07, 10:37 PM	Thread Starter #1
dominick32 Senior Solid State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York	Vista Licensing 32bit and 64bit Guys. Some of you are probably aware that I am ditching my current rig and building up a new Vapochilled QX6700, P5B Deluxe, 4 Gigs of OCZ Titanium Ram rig. I purchased Vista Ultimate Edition 32 bit OEM from Newegg.com My question to you: Lets say in 3 months I would like to get my hands on a copy of 64 Bit Ultimate OEM. 1. Will my license and CD key allow me to activate both the 32 bit or 64 bit Vista, and vice versa? 2. Will Microsoft send me a copy of the 64 bit Vista if I pay them shipping charges and prove to them that I own a copy of 32-bit ultimate? or #3. Am I crap out of luck because the OEM edition cannot be upgraded, transferred, etc. etc. Thanks in advance, Dom __________________ Next Level Hardware Solid State Drive Technology Discussion Thread ...3770k@4.5 GHz...Noctua Dh14...Asus z77 dlx...Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB... ARES 8Gb 2x4.... crossfire 2 x diamond 6970's at stock clocks...4TB x2 in raid 1...corsair hx1050 psu... Dominick32 states "Bow down to your SSD god dominick32 and kiss my feet which are actually made of pure light. Jason4207 Responds: "Upon closer inspection to go in for that foot kiss I'm noticing that the 'light' isn't doing you any justice. This should help. :) Circa 2010
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02-04-07, 10:43 PM	#2
sno.lcn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA	From what I understand, it's #3, from what I understand, with the key you can activate one or the other, even with the ones that come with both
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02-04-07, 11:55 PM	#4
deathman20 High Speed Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Where the Cheese Heads Live	You could sell it or cancel the order before it comes and take my suggestion as well. I tried to do more digging into it this afternoon and it just seems to be SOL all around with OEM's. Only plus side is you could have it on 2 PC's for the same price as the full blown Ultimate edition. __________________ -=The Gamer=- MSI Z68A-GD65 (G3) \| i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz \| 1.3875V \| 28C Idle / 65C Load (LinX) 8Gig G.Skill Ripjaw PC3-12800 9-9-9-24 @ 1600Mhz w/ 1.5V \| TR Ultra eXtreme 120 w/ 2 Fans Sapphire 7950 VaporX 1150/1500 w/ 1.2V/1.5V \| 32C Idle / 64C Load \| 2x 128Gig Crucial M4 SSD's BitFenix Shinobi Window Case \| SilverStone DA750 \| Dell 2405FPW 24" Screen -=The Server=- Synology DS1511+ \| Dual Core 1.8Ghz CPU \| 30C Idle / 38C Load 3 Gig PC2-6400 \| 3x Samsung F4 2TB Raid5 \| 2x Samsung F4 2TB Heat
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02-05-07, 12:41 AM	#5
ponkan pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oakland, CA	If you are absolutely certain that you won't need 64-bit for the entire lifetime of the machine then the OEM's probably the best choice, otherwise deathman's suggestion of cancelling the order would probably be wise.
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02-05-07, 08:37 AM	Thread Starter #6
dominick32 Senior Solid State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York	This is a really tough decision guys... LOL 64 bit or 32 bit???????????????????? Cancel or dont cancel the order? Damn you Microsoft. __________________ Next Level Hardware Solid State Drive Technology Discussion Thread ...3770k@4.5 GHz...Noctua Dh14...Asus z77 dlx...Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB... ARES 8Gb 2x4.... crossfire 2 x diamond 6970's at stock clocks...4TB x2 in raid 1...corsair hx1050 psu... Dominick32 states "Bow down to your SSD god dominick32 and kiss my feet which are actually made of pure light. Jason4207 Responds: "Upon closer inspection to go in for that foot kiss I'm noticing that the 'light' isn't doing you any justice. This should help. :) Circa 2010
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02-05-07, 09:32 AM	#7
Surfrider77 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Abroad...	Dom, my personal opinion is go with 64 bit. You will only kick yourself in the ass, and/or be out $200 down the road. I plan on going Vista Ultimate 64bit when RC1 hits the streets. I wont even waste my time on 32bit, as everything is slowly migrating over to 64. __________________ Corsair 600T ASUS Z77 V-Pro Intel 3770K 4.5GHz - 1.20vCore 16GB G.Skill @ 2400MHz Two EVGA 670 in SLI - P14.6k 3DM'11 - X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty 180GB Intel 520 SSD Corsair AX850 Power Supply 5x2TB RAID5 Storage - Synology DS1010+ NAS 4x1TB RAID5 Storage - Synology DS409 NAS
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02-05-07, 09:35 AM	#8
d.chatten Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom	For retail versions of Vista you can use the same license/product key to install and activate both the 32bit and 64bit versions of Vista but only on one machine at a time and you can only install the 64bit or 32bit, not both, you can however install Vista 32bit and at a later date install Vista 64bit, if you then decide to go back to Vista 32bit or Vista 64bit, you can. For OEM versions of Vista you can only use the license/product key for the version you have, eg:32bit product key for the 32bit version only, not the 64bit version, and the 64bit product key for the 64bit version only. __________________ Asus P5W DH Deluxe Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Zelman CNPS9500 AT Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 4x1GB BFG GeForce 7800 GTX OC 256MB Enermax Galaxy DXX EGX1000EWL 1000W Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD x3 Pioneer DVR-115DBK x2 Plextor DVDR PX-716A CoolerMaster Stacker 830 Evolution
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02-05-07, 09:54 AM	Thread Starter #9
dominick32 Senior Solid State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York	Damn guys. Looks like Newegg is going to be getting a return from me. Let me just double check on some things. Do we have 64 bit signed drivers for this stuff: 1. EVGA 8800GTX 2. Creative XFI Xtreme Music 3. 965 Chipset Drivers 4. Marvell/Yukon Wan Winiport Drivers 5. Intel Matrix Storage Manager Also, what kind of software compatibility issues am I looking at here? Thanks. Dom __________________ Next Level Hardware Solid State Drive Technology Discussion Thread ...3770k@4.5 GHz...Noctua Dh14...Asus z77 dlx...Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB... ARES 8Gb 2x4.... crossfire 2 x diamond 6970's at stock clocks...4TB x2 in raid 1...corsair hx1050 psu... Dominick32 states "Bow down to your SSD god dominick32 and kiss my feet which are actually made of pure light. Jason4207 Responds: "Upon closer inspection to go in for that foot kiss I'm noticing that the 'light' isn't doing you any justice. This should help. :) Circa 2010
	QUOTE Thanks

02-05-07, 09:57 AM	Thread Starter #10
dominick32 Senior Solid State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York	Check this out guys. NEWEGGS return policy: Retail software : Unopened within 30 days OEM Software: NON REFUNDABLE!!!! I am ** out of luck! __________________ Next Level Hardware Solid State Drive Technology Discussion Thread** ...3770k@4.5 GHz...Noctua Dh14...Asus z77 dlx...Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB... ARES 8Gb 2x4.... crossfire 2 x diamond 6970's at stock clocks...4TB x2 in raid 1...corsair hx1050 psu... Dominick32 states "Bow down to your SSD god dominick32 and kiss my feet which are actually made of pure light. Jason4207 Responds: "Upon closer inspection to go in for that foot kiss I'm noticing that the 'light' isn't doing you any justice. This should help. :) Circa 2010
	QUOTE Thanks

02-06-07, 05:40 PM	#13
custom90gt Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pueblo CO, when I'm not playing army	http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ons/64bit.mspx may help you out __________________ Desktop \| i5 3570k @ 4.8GHz \| 16GB Ripjaws \| 2x 128GB Samsung 830 Raid 0 \| GTX 670 @ ???/???? \| 2408WFP \| Lenovo X230 \| i7-3520M \| 16GB \| 256GB Crucial M4 msata \| 12.5" IPS \| HP Mediasmart EX490 \| E5300 \| 4GB Mushkin \| 6TB space, but could use more \| Back home again.
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