Morgan vs Thunderbird.

RoadWarrior · 12-06-01, 12:30 AM

Hi guys,

My budget looks like getting me either a 1G-1.2G Moggie, or a 1G-1.2G 200 Thud. Now I've been looking around the reviews on Toms and other places, and see some moggie scores beating thuds, and some thud scores beating moggies.

So I was wondering what benchmarks are the ones to look at for telling the difference between the ones that favour the thud because of more cache and the ones that favour the newer features in the morgan.
Also are there any indications that newer games etc will take better advantage of a morgan than a thunderbird due to SSE support etc.?
Also what are the morgans looking like for overclockability, there are many thunderbird results available, but the morgans being newer don't seem to have many results in yet. Are there any places to look other than the main site's ocdb, which only has a couple of morgans in it?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Road Warrior

flounder43 · 12-06-01, 12:34 AM

There was a thread some time ago that discussed which was faster, morgan or athlon, and the gist of it is that the Athlon still wins...

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sho...=morgan+athlon

Luie · 12-06-01, 05:09 AM

Yep, Athlon TB still wins because of the bigger cache size.

proze · 12-06-01, 05:57 AM

the morgans will be as difficult to unlock as the xps, and they have much less cache than the tbirds. i doubt a few extra sse instructions are going to make a bigger difference than the lack of cache, so i'm pretty sure the tbird would be a faster processor.

WarriorII · 12-07-01, 08:51 AM

In car anology.

Big Block (T-Bird) vs Small Block (Morgan)....
Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,.........................

[ HINT: There ain't NO replacement for DISPLACEMENT]

12-06-01, 12:30 AM	Thread Starter #1
RoadWarrior Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada	Morgan vs Thunderbird. Hi guys, My budget looks like getting me either a 1G-1.2G Moggie, or a 1G-1.2G 200 Thud. Now I've been looking around the reviews on Toms and other places, and see some moggie scores beating thuds, and some thud scores beating moggies. So I was wondering what benchmarks are the ones to look at for telling the difference between the ones that favour the thud because of more cache and the ones that favour the newer features in the morgan. Also are there any indications that newer games etc will take better advantage of a morgan than a thunderbird due to SSE support etc.? Also what are the morgans looking like for overclockability, there are many thunderbird results available, but the morgans being newer don't seem to have many results in yet. Are there any places to look other than the main site's ocdb, which only has a couple of morgans in it? Thanks in advance for any help, Road Warrior __________________ Folder in disgrace. Folding rigs may be back online eventually, just as soon as real life gives me enough breaks. Black Belt Ubercloxx0r "Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous Folders have fallen or may fall into the grip of OCAU and all the odious apparatus of [H]ardOCP rule, we shall not flag or fail." "We shall go on to the end, we shall fold on the Newcastles, we shall fold on the Northwoods and Prescotts, we shall fold with growing confidence and growing strength on Venice, we shall defend our Forum, whatever the cost may be, we shall fold on the Winchesters, we shall fold on the Bartons, we shall fold on the Applebreds and Thunderbirds, we shall fold on the Coppermines; we shall never surrender!"
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12-06-01, 12:34 AM	#2
flounder43 Senior Lawyer-clocker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Minneapolis	There was a thread some time ago that discussed which was faster, morgan or athlon, and the gist of it is that the Athlon still wins... http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sho...=morgan+athlon
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12-06-01, 05:09 AM	#3
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12-06-01, 05:57 AM	#4
proze Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Pretoria, RSA	the morgans will be as difficult to unlock as the xps, and they have much less cache than the tbirds. i doubt a few extra sse instructions are going to make a bigger difference than the lack of cache, so i'm pretty sure the tbird would be a faster processor. __________________ Athlon XP1700+ (13311), Gigabyte GA-7VAX, 256MB Samsung PC2700 at 166Mhz, MTS Glaciator, Powercolor Radeon 8500 64MB, SBLive! Value, onboard Realtek 10/100 NIC. Duron 600@1102, Voltage-Modded A7V, 256MB at 142mhz CAS2, MTS Glaciator II, 64MB Gainward GF2 Pro, Maestro II PCI, CNET 10/100 NIC. PLUS* more experience than your grandmother. Bow to me, for I AM ROOT!
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12-07-01, 08:51 AM	#5
WarriorII Moderator #666 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Moderating	In car anology. Big Block (T-Bird) vs Small Block (Morgan).... Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,Big Block, Small Block,......................... [ HINT: There ain't NO replacement for DISPLACEMENT] __________________ To Honor Those who went before their time. God Bless them all Fight the Fight worth Fighting *FOLD for Team 32* IS THERE A CURE AMONG US? Black Belt Overclocker MyHeatware under WarriorII Become a fan on Facebook! \| Help improve overclockers.com! Get involved! \| Follow us on Twitter!
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