Brisbane 4000+ posting bad temps (45 idle 65 load)

TDubbs05 · 03-14-07, 08:55 PM

Alright well my friends rig is up and running however i'm finding some weird probs temp wise. It's got a brisbane 4000+ on an ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe and it's posting temps of 45 C idling and 65 C Load at 1.2 v. It's also giving chipset temps ranging between 4 and 10 C at idle and 58 C Load. Now i know these temps are bs but what might be causing it?

Also, whenever i set the cpu voltage in the bios, i doesn't seem to go through in windows. I've been using Smart Guardian and cpuz to check the voltages, temps, etc and nothing seems to work. I updated the bios today w/ no noticeable changes. Is this just a MB issue or what?

imposter · 03-14-07, 09:01 PM

Core temp i think has similar problems, should be fixed in new release not sure. ill get back to you on this. But for now use speedfan. and use the CPU temp. it might not be 100 accurate but is ok for the time being. there is also a possibility of a bad thermal sensor.

AlabamaCajun · 03-14-07, 09:47 PM

I've seen the same thing. I just synced up the numbers with the BIOS setup environment sensors.

TDubbs05 · 03-14-07, 09:49 PM

that's the weird thing...the bios is giving me the same temps

AlabamaCajun · 03-15-07, 08:01 AM

Something wrong with the thermal connection, warped IHS or bracket possible.

I'm thinking of a 4400Bris, hope this problem is a simple correction not like the Windsors.

imposter · 03-15-07, 02:34 PM

Yea they will sort out the errors soon.

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Originally Posted by The Coolest

Yes, you're not the only one who is reporting a very low temperature.
I have no idea why this happens as the way that the DTS is read in the Brisbane is the same as in the older CPUs. There is not offset field either.
I will try to contact AMD and will see what they have to say about it.

thats in related to coretemp i am sure other programs have the same problem.

http://www.alcpu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=219 <-- related link.

ps2cho · 03-15-07, 06:35 PM

Get him to ensure that the HSF clips are fully down on all sides.
Then check TIM and reseat.

mAJORD · 03-16-07, 04:42 AM

I have the DFI LP 590 (I assume that's what you've shortend in your sig) and it does the exact same on brisbane cores.

BIOS and speedfan both report inaccurte HIGH readings. Core temp displays too Lower readings.

Both my windsor CPU's in the same board report much more normal temps.

bottom line it's a reporting prob. I'm gussing later bios revisions, and core temp revisions may fix it

Vengance_01 · 03-16-07, 01:22 PM

Yea I have the same issue with my X2 3600. Only way to find out would to pop the top off and use a probe.

MassiveOverkill · 03-16-07, 04:51 PM

The latest version of CoreTemp seems to report my temps more accurately, where BIOS shows my temps at like 65C at idle, CoreTemp reports 21/27C idle and 40/45C at load with about ~1.35 volts with a stock cooler.

TDubbs05 · 03-17-07, 02:23 PM

huh well weird. btw this isn't my computer so my sig isn't for the comp i'm talking about. well i'm pretty sure that the hs is down and working properly. even then how could the temps be that bad? i mean this is stock volts w/o an oc. I'll check out coretemp cause sounds like massiveoverkill might be having some success with this issue. thanks for all the help so far.

imposter · 03-17-07, 09:52 PM

New core temp just released, fully supports Brisbane. http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ enjoy =).

Vengance_01 · 03-18-07, 12:53 AM

I have tried Core temp and I still think its low. But I will watch my temps.

imposter · 03-18-07, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengance_01

I have tried Core temp and I still think its low. But I will watch my temps.

its new core temp version alot of improvements, that is as accurate as the DTS reports give, anything else is bad calibration.

funnyperson1 · 03-18-07, 12:58 AM

Yea CoreTemp still seems low 22/24C at 2.8ghz stock vcore. Its around 22C in my room right now.

Vengance_01 · 03-18-07, 01:01 AM

guys, my Ultra BX6 has a temp probe. What I have done it attached it to the side of my IHS to give me some idea whats going on. Its reporting 45C using DVD Shrink. 2500MHZ 1.3-1.325 volts. Core temp reads 35,39 for each core. So I am guessing add 10C to the probe mabey? so 55C max atm.

imposter · 03-18-07, 01:06 AM

Well keep in mind if the heat was at the Tjunction your heatsink wouldn't be doing a great job in removing the heat. if you heatsink is 10 degrees higher thats ok. that means the heatsink is doing its job in removing the heat. Those temps look fine.

funnyperson1 are you using core temp .95?

TDubbs05 · 03-18-07, 01:33 AM

thanks for that coretemp ref. everything's fine...coretemps what you need for all the actual info. it's posting 19C idle now...i'll let you guys know how it does when it's oc'd. thx again all

imposter · 03-18-07, 10:55 AM

Keep in mind its 65nm right? its suppose to run cool =P.

Np

imp

funnyperson1 · 03-18-07, 01:03 PM

They are cool running chips, but I can guarantee you that it is not running at 19C. Tdubbs, unless your thermostat is set below 66F right now, it is physically IMPOSSIBLE for your chip to be running at 19C. With air cooling, a processor can only run as cool as the ambient air.

I am running CT .95, and I don't think that TheCoolest was able to find out why Brisbanes were reporting such low temps for this release. I remember someone else posted a conversation with him where he said he wasn't sure why it was happening and that he had emailed AMD about it.

03-14-07, 08:55 PM	Thread Starter #1
TDubbs05 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ	Brisbane 4000+ posting bad temps (45 idle 65 load) Alright well my friends rig is up and running however i'm finding some weird probs temp wise. It's got a brisbane 4000+ on an ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe and it's posting temps of 45 C idling and 65 C Load at 1.2 v. It's also giving chipset temps ranging between 4 and 10 C at idle and 58 C Load. Now i know these temps are bs but what might be causing it? Also, whenever i set the cpu voltage in the bios, i doesn't seem to go through in windows. I've been using Smart Guardian and cpuz to check the voltages, temps, etc and nothing seems to work. I updated the bios today w/ no noticeable changes. Is this just a MB issue or what? __________________ Tim __________________________________________ i7 2600K \| ASRock P67 Extreme6 \| Crucial C300 128GB \| HIS 4870 \| Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme \| Areca 1210 RAID 5 \| Lian-Li V1020B
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03-14-07, 09:01 PM	#2
imposter Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bronx,newyork	Core temp i think has similar problems, should be fixed in new release not sure. ill get back to you on this. But for now use speedfan. and use the CPU temp. it might not be 100 accurate but is ok for the time being. there is also a possibility of a bad thermal sensor. __________________ HeatWare <--Coretemp Slave tester!!!!--> Have one on the house. "Its prefectly good minus all the bad stuff" -Ben333
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03-14-07, 09:47 PM	#3
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03-14-07, 09:49 PM	Thread Starter #4
TDubbs05 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ	that's the weird thing...the bios is giving me the same temps __________________ Tim __________________________________________ i7 2600K \| ASRock P67 Extreme6 \| Crucial C300 128GB \| HIS 4870 \| Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme \| Areca 1210 RAID 5 \| Lian-Li V1020B
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03-15-07, 08:01 AM	#5
AlabamaCajun Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: A Labyrinth	Something wrong with the thermal connection, warped IHS or bracket possible. I'm thinking of a 4400Bris, hope this problem is a simple correction not like the Windsors. __________________ Main Rigs Developement -Phen2 1090T on Asus 870 Fun -Callisto 555BE, Asus 990FX Sabortooth,ATI HD3870 CDs, Labels, Printing etc- 5000BBE, GA790FX, Wintec 800 4G.HD2600XT Rendering Server- 4x Barcelona 8347s. Tyan S4980 Quad, 16G (2G Kingston per socket). Folding, Testing- Vista, Regor 265 X2 on Asus 880, dead- Phen2-940 AM2, DFI790FX-M2R,Corsair-PC6400 CL4 Theme Park Builder 3D The Game- Build-em and Ride-em.
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03-16-07, 04:42 AM	#8
mAJORD Registered Join Date: Mar 2007	I have the DFI LP 590 (I assume that's what you've shortend in your sig) and it does the exact same on brisbane cores. BIOS and speedfan both report inaccurte HIGH readings. Core temp displays too Lower readings. Both my windsor CPU's in the same board report much more normal temps. bottom line it's a reporting prob. I'm gussing later bios revisions, and core temp revisions may fix it
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03-16-07, 01:22 PM	#9
Vengance_01 Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tustin Ranch, CA	Yea I have the same issue with my X2 3600. Only way to find out would to pop the top off and use a probe. __________________ Workstation and Mobile Workstation Dell XPS 1330: Core 2 T7500, 3GB Ram, 320GB HD, 13.3 LED, 8400GS, 20inch Dell 2007WFP When at Home.
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MassiveOverkill Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Florida	The latest version of CoreTemp seems to report my temps more accurately, where BIOS shows my temps at like 65C at idle, CoreTemp reports 21/27C idle and 40/45C at load with about ~1.35 volts with a stock cooler. __________________ MSI 890GXM-G65 LAN Gear MOM Phenom II 1055T 3.8 Ghz 1.4V Batch 1015DPAW Corsair H50 w/120x38 Asus 5850CU 1000/1125 4x2048 OCZ DDR3 1600 Obsidian Western Digital WD1002FAEX GSkill Titan 128 gig SSD Silverstone SST 75F-P 3DMark06 21837
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03-17-07, 02:23 PM	Thread Starter #11
TDubbs05 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ	huh well weird. btw this isn't my computer so my sig isn't for the comp i'm talking about. well i'm pretty sure that the hs is down and working properly. even then how could the temps be that bad? i mean this is stock volts w/o an oc. I'll check out coretemp cause sounds like massiveoverkill might be having some success with this issue. thanks for all the help so far. __________________ Tim __________________________________________ i7 2600K \| ASRock P67 Extreme6 \| Crucial C300 128GB \| HIS 4870 \| Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme \| Areca 1210 RAID 5 \| Lian-Li V1020B
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03-17-07, 09:52 PM	#12
imposter Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bronx,newyork	New core temp just released, fully supports Brisbane. http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ enjoy =). __________________ HeatWare <--Coretemp Slave tester!!!!--> Have one on the house. "Its prefectly good minus all the bad stuff" -Ben333
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03-18-07, 12:53 AM	#13
Vengance_01 Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tustin Ranch, CA	I have tried Core temp and I still think its low. But I will watch my temps. __________________ Workstation and Mobile Workstation Dell XPS 1330: Core 2 T7500, 3GB Ram, 320GB HD, 13.3 LED, 8400GS, 20inch Dell 2007WFP When at Home.
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03-18-07, 12:58 AM	#15
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	Yea CoreTemp still seems low 22/24C at 2.8ghz stock vcore. Its around 22C in my room right now. __________________ "Strong with the fold this boy is, fold you must"-NASSoccer its a shame you cant ban people for being ignorant fanboys.... My Heatware [Gigabyte MA790X-UDP4][PHII 940BE][Thermalright Ultra90][2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC][Palit HD4850][Enhance 5150GH][Windows 7,Ubuntu 12.04]
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03-18-07, 01:01 AM	#16
Vengance_01 Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tustin Ranch, CA	guys, my Ultra BX6 has a temp probe. What I have done it attached it to the side of my IHS to give me some idea whats going on. Its reporting 45C using DVD Shrink. 2500MHZ 1.3-1.325 volts. Core temp reads 35,39 for each core. So I am guessing add 10C to the probe mabey? so 55C max atm. __________________ Workstation and Mobile Workstation Dell XPS 1330: Core 2 T7500, 3GB Ram, 320GB HD, 13.3 LED, 8400GS, 20inch Dell 2007WFP When at Home.
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03-18-07, 01:06 AM	#17
imposter Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bronx,newyork	Well keep in mind if the heat was at the Tjunction your heatsink wouldn't be doing a great job in removing the heat. if you heatsink is 10 degrees higher thats ok. that means the heatsink is doing its job in removing the heat. Those temps look fine. funnyperson1 are you using core temp .95? __________________ HeatWare <--Coretemp Slave tester!!!!--> Have one on the house. "Its prefectly good minus all the bad stuff" -Ben333
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03-18-07, 01:33 AM	Thread Starter #18
TDubbs05 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ	thanks for that coretemp ref. everything's fine...coretemps what you need for all the actual info. it's posting 19C idle now...i'll let you guys know how it does when it's oc'd. thx again all __________________ Tim __________________________________________ i7 2600K \| ASRock P67 Extreme6 \| Crucial C300 128GB \| HIS 4870 \| Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme \| Areca 1210 RAID 5 \| Lian-Li V1020B
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03-18-07, 10:55 AM	#19
imposter Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bronx,newyork	Keep in mind its 65nm right? its suppose to run cool =P. Np imp __________________ HeatWare <--Coretemp Slave tester!!!!--> Have one on the house. "Its prefectly good minus all the bad stuff" -Ben333
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03-18-07, 01:03 PM	#20
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	They are cool running chips, but I can guarantee you that it is not running at 19C. Tdubbs, unless your thermostat is set below 66F right now, it is physically IMPOSSIBLE for your chip to be running at 19C. With air cooling, a processor can only run as cool as the ambient air. I am running CT .95, and I don't think that TheCoolest was able to find out why Brisbanes were reporting such low temps for this release. I remember someone else posted a conversation with him where he said he wasn't sure why it was happening and that he had emailed AMD about it. __________________ "Strong with the fold this boy is, fold you must"-NASSoccer its a shame you cant ban people for being ignorant fanboys.... My Heatware [Gigabyte MA790X-UDP4][PHII 940BE][Thermalright Ultra90][2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC][Palit HD4850][Enhance 5150GH][Windows 7,Ubuntu 12.04]
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