[Gamerkun]

So my current system is:

- Nvidia 7600gt
- 1 gb corsair value
- 160 gb hitachi sata 3.0
- Amd 3500+
- Asus a8n-e motherboard

And Im devating on either upgrading it or buying a whole new system~

The whole reason foy wanting to get a new system is that i don't know how inferior my current AMD 3500+ is to the curent DualCore monsters. If any of u had this system and 1100$ to spend, what would u do? Keeping in mind u r going for performance. What i mean with performance u ask?

Well, im trying to get a system that won't lag nor crash if i run my azureus, 2 msn's, winamp, mirc, yahoo msn, gtalk, some ftp client and decide to start encoding some video (h264) on meGUI << or at least a system that would lag the less than my current one (althought i keep blaming my ram O__o!)

[greenmaji]

Would selling the current system to add to the budget be an option?
If so a very solid Conroe rig is within your budget.

[res0r9lm]

I have about the same system as what you have now except cpu is opty 165 and ram is 3gb and mine runs smooth as glass while encoding video.

[ChillPhatCat]

Same system as my main rig, only 2x 7950's on the SLI version of my board and 2x 150 Gb Raptors in raid 0 for the main drive.

[Gamerkun]

Originally Posted by res0r9lm

I have about the same system as what you have now except cpu is opty 165 and ram is 3gb and mine runs smooth as glass while encoding video.

So, u suggest adding RAM? If so, what kind of ram would be my best choice? (some newegg links would help xD)

@greenmaji

It's not completely out of the question, the thing is~ i've never done it, for starters i wouldn't even know how to or where to sell it nor how much it is actually worth (my system that is).

[res0r9lm]

I have 2x512mb corsair 3200xl and I added 2x1gb of supertalent. supertalent is better than corsair value ram but not the best. I got supertalent 2gb kit w/ heatspreader for $159 at ewiz and was cheaper than newegg also you could upgrade to dual core cpu and total cost would be around $300 for ram and cpu.

[wingman99]

Originally Posted by Gamerkun

So my current system is:

- Nvidia 7600gt
- 1 gb corsair value
- 160 gb hitachi sata 3.0
- Amd 3500+
- Asus a8n-e motherboard

And Im devating on either upgrading it or buying a whole new system~

The whole reason foy wanting to get a new system is that i don't know how inferior my current AMD 3500+ is to the curent DualCore monsters. If any of u had this system and 1100$ to spend, what would u do? Keeping in mind u r going for performance. What i mean with performance u ask?

Well, im trying to get a system that won't lag nor crash if i run my azureus, 2 msn's, winamp, mirc, yahoo msn, gtalk, some ftp client and decide to start encoding some video (h264) on meGUI << or at least a system that would lag the less than my current one (althought i keep blaming my ram O__o!)

Memory won't help with the lag only with stalls from swap files.

The multitasking crashes are caused by modren computers. I have been testing this for 7 years they just are not able handel the task well.

They say the Conroe is solid, i will find out when i test it in june.

The pc that is the base of the solid testing is a p3 1.4, 7800 GT CO SuperClocked, XP sp2

Im running a game and server, a net movie also here on the form it's smooth as glass. if the programs will run, it won't crash on a p3

I've always been a multitasker, the best was the p3 that's where it ended two
now im just a multitask tester with the new systems lol.

[res0r9lm]

I don't think windows would use the swapfile if it had enough ram. the question is how much can XP use.

[Gamerkun]

Long story short~ i could get ram and a new cpu~ im completely clueless about what i should get (brand-wise, what's good and what's the fair price for it) ~ anyone wanna help me out with some suggestion on CPU + RAM links from newegg or some other online site i could get stuff from?

[res0r9lm]

you can get the 3800+ X2 for $90 and super talent ddr400 2gb kit $130

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820609058
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103052

I think that will hold you over for awhile and you will be happy with the encoding speed. The opteron 165 might overclock a little better it's around $60 more but you get 2x1mb cache and mine will do above 2.6 ghz without any vcore tweaks

[Gamerkun]

Originally Posted by res0r9lm

you can get the 3800+ X2 for $90 and super talent ddr400 2gb kit $130

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820609058
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103052

I think that will hold you over for awhile and you will be happy with the encoding speed. The opteron 165 might overclock a little better it's around $60 more but you get 2x1mb cache and mine will do above 2.6 ghz without any vcore tweaks

Ok i ordered the ram already~ but im holding my horses on the processor since i'd like to know if that's the best i can/should get (if im upgrading~ i might as well put some money into it=p)

Is the AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Toledo 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - OEM better or more suitable for my system than other Dual Core? (Im completely clueless so im not even sure that if i get a Dual core processor my mainboard will run with it)~

[greenmaji]

The best CPU for your rig is the one that has the multipler to do the job
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=391768
It would be wise to use that guide and figure out what the max HTT is of your motherboard and select a processor accordingly

and btw.. http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...3&l2=15&l3=171
your motherbord is fine for dual core support

[Gamerkun]

I have learned not to buy cheap ram anymore u.u'

[res0r9lm]

Whats the problem? I had bought some corsair value select for a computer I was building for someone else and after a week it went bad and there has been alot of complaints about those modules I sort of blew it because hey it corsair so it's got to be good another thing thats almost comical I used a antec sonata 2 case for a build and I ran it for a few days and they came and picked up when they got home it wouldn't start psu tested bad that was eithier one heck of a ride or one of the worst built psu's in history.

[Gamerkun]

Let's just say the pc is slower now ~ my CPU usage is at 54% at all times =S

My pc is actually faster without the 2 GB ram i bought =S

[E4300]

If you click on the applications tab wouldn't you see which programs are utilising so much CPU power?

I'd suggest checking the applications tab with the 2Gb RAM and without.
A screenshot would help.

[res0r9lm]

The amount of ram shouldn't have anything to do with processor usage. The facts are the a8n-e board drops ram speed down to ddr200 and lowers timings if all four slots are used. what you need to do is go into bios and manually set timings to 3-8-3-3-11-14-5-3-2 and ddr400 or if you are overclocking fsb ddr 333 or less

[Gamerkun]

Originally Posted by res0r9lm

The amount of ram shouldn't have anything to do with processor usage. The facts are the a8n-e board drops ram speed down to ddr200 and lowers timings if all four slots are used. what you need to do is go into bios and manually set timings to 3-8-3-3-11-14-5-3-2 and ddr400 or if you are overclocking fsb ddr 333 or less

I don't even know how to overclock~ but if u say that the a8n-e drops ram speed when all 4 slots are used (which is the current case)~ would u mind giving me easy to follow or step-by-step instructions to set the timing right (taking in account that i've never attempted going into the bios).

[res0r9lm]

to get into bios press delete while booting. go to Avanced tab >> cpu configuration >> dram configration then make it look like pic.

[Gamerkun]

Ok i just made it look like in ur pic (althought it had to say "manual" instead of "auto" on Timing mode O.o)

Gonna try it for a couple of days to see how it works