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Haha @ the two dorks in that intel price drop ad. Gotta love stock photography. If I didnt have ths qx6700 I would definitely pick that e6700 up now for an easy 4.0+ ghz...
 
man, the price of that E6600 is quite nice!

I only wish the q6600 was a little bit lower (though still a nice price where it is, just not for my empty wallet :))
 
jivetrky said:
man, the price of that E6600 is quite nice!

I only wish the q6600 was a little bit lower (though still a nice price where it is, just not for my empty wallet :))
not so empty if you lower that x800 a tad :santa:
 
The E6420 is calling my name, I just listed my board/processor/ram on craiglist to see if I can make the move. It's not that I begrudge my fellow overclockers, its just that the sixpacks are more likely to give me what I want for this stuff, lol.
 
OMG QUAD CORE!!! That's what's gonna make me finally upgrade from my opteron 165... except $500+ is wayyy too steap... maybe when they eventually hit $300 (who knows how long that takes)...
 
Probably not as long as you might think. Moore's law has to prevail, computing power doubles every 18 months, despite the fact that its no longer NECESSARY, it still continues to hold true. I thought it could never continue when we got to the beginings of 939 and the end of netburst, the introduction of Dualcores was an instant leap back on schedule for moore's law then. Given moores law, expect Quadcores to be widely available at upper mainstream pricing by early 09. Of course software multithreading will have to make some leaps to keep that in line, but I think that technology is already driving software apps into discrete threading to make use of dualcores that are most definately mainstream now. I think we've reached the point where the clockspeed march is no longer sustainable so it'll be a battle for more cores in less space for a while.
 
Big Mike said:
Probably not as long as you might think. Moore's law has to prevail, computing power doubles every 18 months, despite the fact that its no longer NECESSARY, it still continues to hold true. I thought it could never continue when we got to the beginings of 939 and the end of netburst, the introduction of Dualcores was an instant leap back on schedule for moore's law then. Given moores law, expect Quadcores to be widely available at upper mainstream pricing by early 09. Of course software multithreading will have to make some leaps to keep that in line, but I think that technology is already driving software apps into discrete threading to make use of dualcores that are most definately mainstream now. I think we've reached the point where the clockspeed march is no longer sustainable so it'll be a battle for more cores in less space for a while.
Well... a 4-speed car has better performance than a 2-speed car (if there are any... I know Dodge had 3-speed automatic)...

Even cars are getting into 6-speed automatic now... lol I know there's not much similarity, but you get the drift... I'm sure we'll get to a point where more cores will be pointless... like does a car really need more than 6 gears? (i'm speaking street legal)...
 
If raytraced games gain popularity the CPU wars won't be over yet, unless GPUs are quickly ramped with optimizations for that type of work. If I was going to make an engine analogy I'd probably compare CPU cores to # of cyilnders or physical engines, the transmission would be more analogous to hyperthreading or maybe a cache, the transmission just allows you to use your available work doing power more effectively for the job, the engine or cylinders do the work, beyond a certain point though more cylinders are just, well, more cylinders sucking down power at cruising speeds and making more power than the car can put to the ground (or instruction cycles that have nothing to execute in the case of a multicore cpu). I think you'll see software morphing to use the power and at least 8 cores can be used effectively in a desktop PC in the future, a big hurdle will be using stuff like the crossbar bus etc and making the hardware more able to deal with and take advantage of splitting threads to individual cores to continue to see large improvements in performance.

Most 6 speeds out there are for fuel economy, gears 1-5 are performance gears and 6 is way overdriven to get good highway MPG, as an aside.
 
Big Mike said:
If raytraced games gain popularity the CPU wars won't be over yet, unless GPUs are quickly ramped with optimizations for that type of work. If I was going to make an engine analogy I'd probably compare CPU cores to # of cyilnders or physical engines, the transmission would be more analogous to hyperthreading or maybe a cache, the transmission just allows you to use your available work doing power more effectively for the job, the engine or cylinders do the work, beyond a certain point though more cylinders are just, well, more cylinders sucking down power at cruising speeds and making more power than the car can put to the ground (or instruction cycles that have nothing to execute in the case of a multicore cpu). I think you'll see software morphing to use the power and at least 8 cores can be used effectively in a desktop PC in the future, a big hurdle will be using stuff like the crossbar bus etc and making the hardware more able to deal with and take advantage of splitting threads to individual cores to continue to see large improvements in performance.

Most 6 speeds out there are for fuel economy, gears 1-5 are performance gears and 6 is way overdriven to get good highway MPG, as an aside.
Well, Mr. Specific... thanks!! :D :D

I personally like more gears... simply b/c I once had a 4-speed manual car, and HATED how high my RPMs were in 4th gear while driving on the highway...
 
g0dM@n said:
Well... a 4-speed car has better performance than a 2-speed car (if there are any... I know Dodge had 3-speed automatic)...

Even cars are getting into 6-speed automatic now... lol I know there's not much similarity, but you get the drift... I'm sure we'll get to a point where more cores will be pointless... like does a car really need more than 6 gears? (i'm speaking street legal)...

There was a 2-speed auto called the powerglide It is still very popular for drag racing because they can be made very strong, and a single shift means the engine is working almost the entire quarter/eighth mile.

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About quad cores, one of the lead designers at Cryotek stated that quad cores will do a ton more for gaming that dual cores ever will. You can start doing things that really take advantage of multi threading, like sophisticated AI. This guy said that the reason we haven't seen really any effect from dualies is because it's hardly worth the effort to take advantage of them. Quads are where the return starts to be worth the investment.
 
Heck my stupid escort ZX2 has 5 gears and on the freeway I wish it had a 6th gear, stupid thing sits near 3500rpm at 70 which is kinda loud.
 
Its tempting, but Im holding out, I'll probably go quad core as my next upgrade. Amd or intel, whatever is best at the time.
 
Big Mike said:
Heck my stupid escort ZX2 has 5 gears and on the freeway I wish it had a 6th gear, stupid thing sits near 3500rpm at 70 which is kinda loud.
loud and probably less efficient on gas... though 3500 isn't too bad...

i'll tell ya what car i had that was 4-speed... it was a 1991 Toyota Tercel... no power anything, literally. And an ugly, ugly interior... the vinyl or w/e melted and cracked the seats in the back... eww!! glad i have something diff now (nothing special now either)

terran2k said:
Its tempting, but Im holding out, I'll probably go quad core as my next upgrade. Amd or intel, whatever is best at the time.

same plan here, bro...
 
The only thing that makes me sad about mwave is
(*Limit 1pcs/customer)
and this little pic on the E4300s :cry:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/mbimages/nostock.gif

also, after shipping mwave is about right on target with newegg cause the egg is doing free shipping on all C2Ds

So E6320 from
egg = $176 + free shipping = $176 (no limit)
mwave = $169 + $7.63 = $176.63 (limit 1)

:)
 
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Not real surprising I guess, I figured some people that wanted to step up might like the prices, I haven't dealt with mwave though, if the egg is in the ballpark I'll probably get a chip there just cuz i've ALWAYS bought parts there and never had one problem.
 
...computing power doubles every 18 months, despite the fact that its no longer NECESSARY, it still continues to hold true...
Ha! It is necessary, as far as I'm concerned. :beer:

As long as there is fierce competition in the marketplace -- driven by glorious profits -- technology innovations will never cease, even when there are theoretical barriers.
 
scrappydog said:
Ha! It is necessary, as far as I'm concerned. :beer:

As long as there is fierce competition in the marketplace -- driven by glorious profits -- technology innovations will never cease, even when there are theoretical barriers.

Well, I can't say I disagree, but ultimately its the software designers that decide how rediculously much computational power is actually USABLE by us, lol. That and the profits aren't very glorious anymore since AMD and Intel got a lot closer to a level playing field and started slugging it out, but they'll always be fighting for "mostest and bestest" as long as they can find a way to do it that consumers will be willing to pay for.
 
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