AM2 over clocking, the cheaper the chip the better the OC??

hank123 · May 27, 2007

AM2 over clocking the cheaper the chip the better the OC??

I am new to your forms and I have been searching and looking at all the different OCings that you all are doing.

It seems that the AM2 3600+ OC the best for you guys. You get the chip at 1.9 and OC to 2.9-3.0 or more.

I have a AM2 3800+ 65w that I have over clocked to 2.3 from 2.0. I see that some people over clock it to about 2.7 when bumping the voltage up to about 1.4 ( i think). I have a Asus m2npv-vm Mobo that wont allow me to bump the voltage up on the chip so I can over clock any more.

So my next move is to get a different mobo so I can push it farther.
this is the one i'm looking at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130071

and now I'm thinking that I should buy a 3600+ AM2 chip cause it will OC better then the 3800+ AM2.

whats your thoughts? And I assume that 65nm over clocks better than 90nm.

Denbob99 · May 27, 2007

Yes the 65nm cores OC better and give out less heat allowing it to take more voltage with lower heat then 90nm. I'd personally get a new mobo as any mobo that disallows voltage bumps is lame =/ As for getting a new chip it depends if you feel you need more CPU power

hank123 · May 27, 2007

how do you feel about that MSI mobo? And also should I go for a higher speed 65nm than the 3600+? you all seem to get the best over clocking with it. I mean come on going from 1.9 to 2.9-3.0 thats a sweet gain!

could you see pushing a 4800+ 2.5g am2 65nm to about 3.2-3.6 or so?

||Console|| · May 27, 2007

hank123 said:
how do you feel about that MSI mobo? And also should I go for a higher speed 65nm than the 3600+? you all seem to get the best over clocking with it. I mean come on going from 1.9 to 2.9-3.0 thats a sweet gain!

could you see pushing a 4800+ 2.5g am2 65nm to about 3.2-3.6 or so?

I cant see that hapening , most amd chips ahve problems over 3.1-3,2ish . but from what I have seen the 3600+ 's are clocking relly good i would love to play with one

ps2cho · May 27, 2007

If you enjoy MicroATX I am REALLY pleased with my Biostar TF7050. It has great features, 7.1 HD Audio, integrated 7050 GPU, PCI-E and all the overclocking options you will need.

This board is working out great for me.

harlam357 · May 27, 2007

Denbob99 said:
I'd personally get a new mobo as any mobo that disallows voltage bumps is lame =/

Heard that... thanks ECS... or not. :-/

I'm looking for a new mobo for my brisbane too. Of course, I'm looking hard at a DFI SLI-570.

Douken · May 28, 2007

X2 3600+ Brisbane Hands Down

MassiveOverkill · May 28, 2007

See my sig for mobo and OC.

Serlant · May 28, 2007

when did you get the 3800+ cause 2.3 isn't very much, im having some temp problems atm but i normally run whats in my sig, but right now im doing 2.6ghz @1.25v i find it hard to believe you can only do 2.3 at 1.35v unless you get a very very very very bad chip? :S seems like something else is at fault

and i guess you hear alot of the 3600+ brisbanes going to 2.9-3ghz is because they're the cheapest so alot more people buy them, which means more chance of good overclocks etc, also and oc of 2.6ghz to 2.9-3ghz sounds nowhere near as impressive as a 1.9-2.9-3ghz overclock.

siresword · May 28, 2007

so its true - the 3600 will OC better than .. say something like the FX62?
nobody here likes the unlocked multi's anymore ? are they a thing of the past ?

g14novak · May 28, 2007

hank123 said:
AM2 over clocking the cheaper the chip the better the OC??

I am new to your forms and I have been searching and looking at all the different OCings that you all are doing.

It seems that the AM2 3600+ OC the best for you guys. You get the chip at 1.9 and OC to 2.9-3.0 or more.

I have a AM2 3800+ 65w that I have over clocked to 2.3 from 2.0. I see that some people over clock it to about 2.7 when bumping the voltage up to about 1.4 ( i think). I have a Asus m2npv-vm Mobo that wont allow me to bump the voltage up on the chip so I can over clock any more.

So my next move is to get a different mobo so I can push it farther.
this is the one i'm looking at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130071

and now I'm thinking that I should buy a 3600+ AM2 chip cause it will OC better then the 3800+ AM2.

whats your thoughts? And I assume that 65nm over clocks better than 90nm.

The 3800's stock clock is 2.4..

Anyway, yea, the 65nm's clock much better than the 90nms'. Id say get a new motherboard, if yours doesn't allow volt changing, your losing about 1/2 your oc right there.

That and the 3800 65nm can be pushed pretty far. What CPU cooler are you using? I had my 3800 at 2.8 completely stable with really good temps.

Serlant · May 28, 2007

overclocked FROM 2.0 TO 2.4 stock on a 3800+ x2 is 2ghz

Omsion · May 28, 2007

siresword said:
so its true - the 3600 will OC better than .. say something like the FX62?
nobody here likes the unlocked multi's anymore ? are they a thing of the past ?

Not really - the speed records are still held by the old FXs, iirc. It's more of a bang for the buck issue, and what is now consistently good OCing across the cheaper chips.

siresword · May 28, 2007

Omsion said:
Not really - the speed records are still held by the old FXs, iirc. It's more of a bang for the buck issue, and what is now consistently good OCing across the cheaper chips.

okayy i get it
so if i wanted to see as high as i could get - the FX would be a better choice ?

malvindo · May 28, 2007

ps2cho said:
If you enjoy MicroATX I am REALLY pleased with my Biostar TF7050. It has great features, 7.1 HD Audio, integrated 7050 GPU, PCI-E and all the overclocking options you will need.

This board is working out great for me.

hm, ur TF7050, when attach with big GFX 1 1/2 or 2 slot , do still got room for 1 PCI?

freeagent · May 28, 2007

i thought all amds topped out at around the same spot, between 2.8-3.1, or at least thats how it used to be in the 939 days, i would assum that would still apply. tho with the 6000, you would think that most of em would hit at least 3ghz with some volts, at least thats what i always hoped for when i ran with them

hank123 · May 30, 2007

Serlant said:
when did you get the 3800+ cause 2.3 isn't very much, im having some temp problems atm but i normally run whats in my sig, but right now im doing 2.6ghz @1.25v i find it hard to believe you can only do 2.3 at 1.35v unless you get a very very very very bad chip? :S seems like something else is at fault

and i guess you hear alot of the 3600+ brisbanes going to 2.9-3ghz is because they're the cheapest so alot more people buy them, which means more chance of good overclocks etc, also and oc of 2.6ghz to 2.9-3ghz sounds nowhere near as impressive as a 1.9-2.9-3ghz overclock.

Oh ya I got it to 2.4 but it becomes unstable. It will run windows and it will run OK for 15 mins to 2 hours.

Backed it down to 2.35 and same thing. went all the way down to 2.3 and its like a rock. I know if I could bump the voltage up to 1.4 it would be fine. I think theres a few issues that play into the hold me not being able to OC very far. Mobo being 1 and Kingston value ram being 2. although I have gotten the Kingston to OC way over 800 MHZ and run alright. Its DDR2 667 by the way.

hank123 · May 30, 2007

g14novak said:
The 3800's stock clock is 2.4..

Anyway, yea, the 65nm's clock much better than the 90nms'. Id say get a new motherboard, if yours doesn't allow volt changing, your losing about 1/2 your oc right there.

That and the 3800 65nm can be pushed pretty far. What CPU cooler are you using? I had my 3800 at 2.8 completely stable with really good temps.

um its just the 65w AM2 3800+. I didn't know they made a 65nm AM2 3800+. Stock cooling and its says cool OC to 2.3. It wont go any higher than 42 Celsius and thats with both cores loaded up to 100% for over 10 mins.

AlabamaCajun · May 30, 2007

Have you found the HT divider (Listed as LDT or K8-NB on some boards).
Set it to 4X leave the CPU multi on Auto or the highest it will go which I think is 9. You ram should be at 800 when you reach 2.4G cpu on the 667 MEM divider.

hank123 · May 30, 2007

AlabamaCajun said:
Have you found the HT divider (Listed as LDT or K8-NB on some boards).
Set it to 4X leave the CPU multi on Auto or the highest it will go which I think is 9. You ram should be at 800 when you reach 2.4G cpu on the 667 MEM divider.

hey friend.

Ya thats the thing my mobo a ASUS m2npv-vm wont let me change crap. I can change the CPU multi the highest it will go is x10 thats also the Auto set. I can change the ram voltage to 1.9 and thats about it.

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