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Old 05-29-07, 09:39 AM Thread Starter   #1
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Haire and Tortoise Redux


Looks like the CJ vs AC folding battle continues.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...hp?s=&u=134998

C'mon CJ, got any more rigs to add to the fire. I'm running on 2 full timers, 3 borgs, 3 off and 2 turn-em on when it's not so hot! Barcelona is still about 6 months away

How long have we been at this? (since page 5 I think)

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Old 05-29-07, 08:41 PM   #2
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Hi, AC. Good to hear from you.

Yes, I think we've been going back and forth for almost 2 years now. I just can't seem to get ahead and stay there.

You have me out gunned but the weather seems to be the great equalizer, at least for the summer.

I have 2-p4 hyperthreads, 1 gpu and 1 smp folder for a total of 6 instances.

I'm not sure if my borg is still producing or not but even if it is then it won't contribute much. It's so minimal that it's not worth my time to go next door and check on it.

My gpu gives me 660pts/day and the smp completes 1 every 15 hours if I get work units that will complete. These two account for nearly all of my daily points.

I just had one smp wu stop at 84% and got no credit. It is working on the same one again and is at 76% currently. It will be interesting to see if it completes or just wastes my folding time again like some of them have recently. If I had gotten even partial credit for work completed I would be several thousand points closer to you; 3000+ points for today alone, but then that's the risk with beta smp wus isn't it .

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Old 05-29-07, 09:36 PM   #3
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This has to be one of , if not the longest running race around here ... at least in the current era.

Keep it up

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Old 05-29-07, 10:31 PM   #4
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I whole heartedly agree pete... can't think of any two since I've been here who have been back and forth more than these two.

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Old 05-30-07, 09:23 AM Thread Starter   #5
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@CJ, Sorry about the SMP, need to check that overclock. I just know at some point you will get one of them C2Ds or Zeons and put some hurt on but hopefully not before my quad rig gets built. Weather here has been cool and smoky at night warm and partly smoky during the day with occasional clouds. It's still cool enough to keep a rig or two running 24/7. The layers run all year. I'll keep watching that rearview mirror read to stomp the gas

Pete and H, thanks for the recognition, that has been a cool ride to the top. We had a few other people with us like RP and 794613 (Jim) that smoked us during the heat of battle

Enough jibber-jabber, Let's Fold!

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Old 05-30-07, 09:28 AM   #6
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CJ5:I just had one smp wu stop at 84% and got no credit. It is working on the same one again and is at 76% currently. It will be interesting to see if it completes or just wastes my folding time again like some of them have recently.
Well, it did finish with a "Thank you for your contribution" message but it's been more than 10 hrs and I still haven't gotten any points.

Oh well, I keep reminding myself it's not just about the points.
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Old 05-30-07, 06:12 PM   #7
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Looks like I got some back pay at the 6pm update! 3293 points

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...hp?s=&u=150399

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Old 05-30-07, 11:46 PM Thread Starter   #8
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In the face of battle with more threats coming up the hill. Forces me to light another rig Fires up 2.9G Sandy, tomorrow the Opti 170 sharpens it's double edge sword. Might just have to SMP a borg

Bringing It Cajun Style!

edit: Orders case of Cajun Style Cheesy Poofs (hope you all like em hot!)

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Old 05-31-07, 07:15 AM   #9
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I'd like to think it was me that lit this fire under you, but I'm way out gunned. My 3 computers and 1 borg (possibly 2 borgs) don't do anything but nudge you occassionally and wake the sleeping Cajun Wabbit.

So, it must be Orion and Hack that you are concerned about.

P.S. Yes, I do like my Cheesy Poofs spicy so pass some this way...please!
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Old 05-31-07, 08:46 AM Thread Starter   #10
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Must have been the bullets, seems you had me on your tail since fall. I finally passed a few weeks back but now it's struggle to keep ahead.
As for the real terror, there's Hack, Orion, LordAbnis and Ned

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Old 05-31-07, 09:47 AM   #11
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Right now my smp folder is in the garage and temps get over 80 degrees F daily. With 90+ degree weather outdoors, I don't know how much longer I'll be able to fold with it unless I can find a suitable place inside where it's airconditioned. Last year I had to severly underclock it just to keep it folding. The answer is not so simple as to just bring it inside, unfortunately.

I'll have to ponder this situation. Ouch, thinking makes my head hurt.
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Old 05-31-07, 11:10 AM   #12
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Ok, I have a plan.

I'll switch cases and take the older p5ad2 e-premium (curently indoors) which is gpu folding out of service for now. But, the p5wdh deluxe mb (currently in the hot garage) which is smp folding has heat pipe cooling and must remain upright. But, the indoor case is Lian Li. So, after the switch I'll have to turn the case on it's head. Turning the case upside down will require redoing the water cooling or scraping it (haven't deceided yet). Then, I'll have to put my gpu folding card into the p5wdh deluxe mb which means smp and gpu folding on the same computer.

This seems better than underclocking the smp folder and keeping it in the hot garage.....I think?
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Old 05-31-07, 12:27 PM Thread Starter   #13
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I say do it. Running a system outside in the balmy air is a torture, now basements are great, wish I had one!

The reason I bought the MATX boards is for layers that run cool. It's all stock volts and max oc at stock. I need to add one more but that means buying more boards which I'm all tapped out on RL projects

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Old 05-31-07, 12:53 PM   #14
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Hey... AC... I heard you were lookin' for me. Be back tomorrow...

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Old 05-31-07, 03:36 PM Thread Starter   #15
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Hey... AC... I heard you were lookin' for me. Be back tomorrow...
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Old 05-31-07, 03:51 PM   #16
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Ok, I have a plan.

I'll switch cases and take the older p5ad2 e-premium (curently indoors) which is gpu folding out of service for now. But, the p5wdh deluxe mb (currently in the hot garage) which is smp folding has heat pipe cooling and must remain upright. But, the indoor case is Lian Li. So, after the switch I'll have to turn the case on it's head. Turning the case upside down will require redoing the water cooling or scraping it (haven't deceided yet). Then, I'll have to put my gpu folding card into the p5wdh deluxe mb which means smp and gpu folding on the same computer.

This seems better than underclocking the smp folder and keeping it in the hot garage.....I think?
I would not bother trying to run the gpu client with the smp client ... most of the time (depending on wu's) i expect you would get worse production, and not running the gpu client on it would save you a lot of heat and power too.

On the heatpipe ... i thought orientation didn't matter, but then i have no experience ... all the ones in my hsf's or mobos are upright or horizontal. But i doubt that it would matter much anyway on the p5wdh ... or you could just put a small fan on the NB and/or pvm heatsink if it running high oc, high mch V or high vc.

Run it upside down now to see what happens before you go though the trouble of swapping cases.

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Old 06-01-07, 09:56 AM   #19
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pscout: I would not bother trying to run the gpu client with the smp client ... most of the time (depending on wu's) i expect you would get worse production
After I thought about it I figured this was probably the case and I would have to fold in Windows in order fold on both clients.
I realize it would be more efficient to fold on seperate computers but if I were to only run one computer wouldn't it gain me more ppd to fold both gpu and smp simultainously in Windows then smp only...or not?

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pscout: On the heatpipe ... i thought orientation didn't matter
I'm pretty sure it does. I think I read something about it on the Asus site sometime back but it's been so long ago I can't say for sure.
I would think that the physics of the process would require gravity to bring the condensed coolant back to the chipset much like the old propane fired ammonia refridgerators worked, but I'm only speculating. I don't know for sure.

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Heatpipes; from the info I've seen, they have wicks or capillaries that pull the condensate back to the hot junction. The liquid to gas threshold is at about 30-35C so that plays more of a factor. When the gas hits the cooler radiator and condenses on the walls of the pipe. Wick action pulls the liquid back to the hot junction. Pressure from the expanding gas may play a role in forcing liguid back to hot junction. If gravity does play an extra role then my ninjas are working about half their potential but I've never seen a difference. Ammonia based systems did require gravity due to design.

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