What's the problem here and how do i fix it?

Sage2050 · 06-19-07, 10:18 AM

AMD A64 3200+
1gb (2x512)MB DDR400
GeForce 7900GS (latest drivers)

torin3 · 06-19-07, 10:35 AM

Looks like standard artifacting. Are you overclocking the card? If so, I would bump it down a bit. Also, if you aren't overclocking, you may be having heat issues. Is the airflow being blocked to/from the card?

dem0lish3r · 06-19-07, 10:56 AM

Yeah, looks like u got a case of the artifacts there. Get lots of rest and keep ur fluids up and u should be fine. oh, also look at temps.

Sage2050 · 06-19-07, 11:02 AM

i'm not OCing at all, but my card is running at 52C right now and i'm not even running any programs. this is with the fan at 25%.

i'm going to bump it up to 100% and wait a few minutes to see what it drops to.

update: it only dropped by 1 degree

Raptord · 06-19-07, 11:30 AM

Bumping the fan up by 75% should make a MUCH bigger difference than that. If I bump my GTO's fan speed by only 10%, i see a 3 degree drop in idle temp. You might be doing something incorrectly.

Mathersalan · 06-19-07, 11:37 AM

Or he may have cute little dust bunnies living inside the heatsink

One Bull · 06-19-07, 11:49 AM

jup, or bad airflow.. But the real difference should be on load temps anyway. Game some and check temps then, or run atitool while monitoring temps.

Sage2050 · 06-19-07, 12:45 PM

i forgot to log the temp monitor, but it topped out at 60C while i was playing and then took about 5 minutes to cool back down to 51.

Section8 · 06-19-07, 11:12 PM

Get yourself some compressed air and make sure there is no dust ubder the fan shroud blocking the air flow. Try getting a big window fan and take the side off of the case and blow the fan right onto the card. Play CSS for an hour and see if it still happens.

Sage2050 · 06-20-07, 12:06 PM

ok, things are getting worse. there's no dust in the fan, but temps have shot up to 57C IDLE (fan at 25%) and hit 60 when playing a non-intensive game (Warcraft 3, fan at 40%). this is getting pretty ridiculous.

Dan0512 · 06-20-07, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptord

Bumping the fan up by 75% should make a MUCH bigger difference than that. If I bump my GTO's fan speed by only 10%, i see a 3 degree drop in idle temp. You might be doing something incorrectly.

That's a 7900gtx heatsink you're talking about, and he probably has one of these on his card-

http://image.pcbee.co.kr/img/2006/BA/t_fan1-f.jpg

So you really can't make that comparison, as logical as it might sound.

@Sage2050:

Have you tried reinstalling drivers?

dan

Sage2050 · 06-20-07, 01:24 PM

i just updated the drivers like 2 days ago, so that's not the problem (was having heat issues before that as well, so its not the new drivers either)

UglyChild · 06-20-07, 03:03 PM

Your card could simply be dying.

Dan0512 · 06-20-07, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage2050

i just updated the drivers like 2 days ago, so that's not the problem (was having heat issues before that as well, so its not the new drivers either)

Did you perform a driver clean before updating the driver?

I also suggest you try downclocking the memory a bit, it could be a dud in the worst case

.

dan

Sage2050 · 06-20-07, 03:46 PM

yep, i used driver cleaner pro twice (once in safe mode prior to installing the new drivers). the memory and clock are both at stock.

LeAd_Poisoning · 06-20-07, 04:21 PM

try a forceware change as some forceware versions do have incompatabilities with certain games, or games at certain settings especially - like CSS

Section8 · 06-20-07, 09:23 PM

Get Riva Tuner and set the fan speed to 100% see if that helps.

Sage2050 · 06-20-07, 09:50 PM

yeah, ive done that. my temps drop to 51-52 or 49 when the AC is on, but im still seeing a good bit of artifacting. and running the fan at the default 40% is almost out of the question.

Section8 · 06-21-07, 11:31 PM

Well sounds like you need to RMA it. If your warrenty is up on it then you will have to take the heatsink off yourself clean off the old thermal paste and the old RAM thermal pads and replace them. The RAM has thick thermal pads on them that you will have to buy otherwise the heatsink will not make contact with them again if you don't use the thick pads not a thermal paste like on the CPU. AS5 is fine for the CPU but you have to get thermal pads for the RAM.

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torin3 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seeing how many GPUs I can cram in one box	Looks like standard artifacting. Are you overclocking the card? If so, I would bump it down a bit. Also, if you aren't overclocking, you may be having heat issues. Is the airflow being blocked to/from the card? __________________ Please fold for Team 32! Board: EVGA 4-Way SLI Classified (E762) Memory: GSkill Ripjaws 6x2GB DDR3 CPU: i7 970 at 4.26Ghz Video card: 2x EVGA GTX 460 Cooling: EK Eddy CPU block and full coverage motherboard block & 2 120mmx240mm heater cores. My Heat
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06-19-07, 10:56 AM	#3
dem0lish3r Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pretoria, South Africa	Yeah, looks like u got a case of the artifacts there. Get lots of rest and keep ur fluids up and u should be fine. oh, also look at temps.
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06-19-07, 11:02 AM	Thread Starter #4
Sage2050 Member Join Date: Apr 2005	i'm not OCing at all, but my card is running at 52C right now and i'm not even running any programs. this is with the fan at 25%. i'm going to bump it up to 100% and wait a few minutes to see what it drops to. update: it only dropped by 1 degree Last edited by Sage2050; 06-19-07 at 11:11 AM.
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06-19-07, 11:30 AM	#5
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06-19-07, 12:45 PM	Thread Starter #8
Sage2050 Member Join Date: Apr 2005	i forgot to log the temp monitor, but it topped out at 60C while i was playing and then took about 5 minutes to cool back down to 51.
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06-19-07, 11:12 PM	#9
Section8 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Get yourself some compressed air and make sure there is no dust ubder the fan shroud blocking the air flow. Try getting a big window fan and take the side off of the case and blow the fan right onto the card. Play CSS for an hour and see if it still happens. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K---> Koolance 370, HWLabs GTX240, D5 Vario 3 X EVGA 480 GTX SC watercooled--> VID-NX480 blocks, HWLabs GTX 480, D5 Vario, Koolance RP-452X2 Corsair 800D Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 MB SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W PSU 16G CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT (4 x 4GB) PC3 12800 2 X Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G SATA 3 in RAID 0 1 X OCZ Vertex 120G, 1 X WD Caviar Black 1TB Dell 3007 WFP-HC Z-5500's Windows 7 64bit
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06-20-07, 12:06 PM	Thread Starter #10
Sage2050 Member Join Date: Apr 2005	ok, things are getting worse. there's no dust in the fan, but temps have shot up to 57C IDLE (fan at 25%) and hit 60 when playing a non-intensive game (Warcraft 3, fan at 40%). this is getting pretty ridiculous.
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06-20-07, 01:24 PM	Thread Starter #12
Sage2050 Member Join Date: Apr 2005	i just updated the drivers like 2 days ago, so that's not the problem (was having heat issues before that as well, so its not the new drivers either)
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06-20-07, 03:03 PM	#13
UglyChild Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mother Russia	Your card could simply be dying.
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06-20-07, 03:46 PM	Thread Starter #15
Sage2050 Member Join Date: Apr 2005	yep, i used driver cleaner pro twice (once in safe mode prior to installing the new drivers). the memory and clock are both at stock.
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06-20-07, 04:21 PM	#16
LeAd_Poisoning Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: top gear	try a forceware change as some forceware versions do have incompatabilities with certain games, or games at certain settings especially - like CSS
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06-20-07, 09:23 PM	#17
Section8 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Get Riva Tuner and set the fan speed to 100% see if that helps. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K---> Koolance 370, HWLabs GTX240, D5 Vario 3 X EVGA 480 GTX SC watercooled--> VID-NX480 blocks, HWLabs GTX 480, D5 Vario, Koolance RP-452X2 Corsair 800D Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 MB SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W PSU 16G CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT (4 x 4GB) PC3 12800 2 X Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G SATA 3 in RAID 0 1 X OCZ Vertex 120G, 1 X WD Caviar Black 1TB Dell 3007 WFP-HC Z-5500's Windows 7 64bit
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06-20-07, 09:50 PM	Thread Starter #18
Sage2050 Member Join Date: Apr 2005	yeah, ive done that. my temps drop to 51-52 or 49 when the AC is on, but im still seeing a good bit of artifacting. and running the fan at the default 40% is almost out of the question.
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06-21-07, 11:31 PM	#19
Section8 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Well sounds like you need to RMA it. If your warrenty is up on it then you will have to take the heatsink off yourself clean off the old thermal paste and the old RAM thermal pads and replace them. The RAM has thick thermal pads on them that you will have to buy otherwise the heatsink will not make contact with them again if you don't use the thick pads not a thermal paste like on the CPU. AS5 is fine for the CPU but you have to get thermal pads for the RAM. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K---> Koolance 370, HWLabs GTX240, D5 Vario 3 X EVGA 480 GTX SC watercooled--> VID-NX480 blocks, HWLabs GTX 480, D5 Vario, Koolance RP-452X2 Corsair 800D Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 MB SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W PSU 16G CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT (4 x 4GB) PC3 12800 2 X Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G SATA 3 in RAID 0 1 X OCZ Vertex 120G, 1 X WD Caviar Black 1TB Dell 3007 WFP-HC Z-5500's Windows 7 64bit
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