Single core 2.... Celeron-L

Joeteck · 06-22-07, 02:18 PM

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hUMANbEATbOX · 06-22-07, 02:20 PM

yes and?

Joeteck · 06-22-07, 02:23 PM

Just came out, and Intel's website has nothing about it.....

No need for Pentium D, or the Pentium 4 any longer....

This is a Pentium 4 replacement...

Perfect for the person who wants to go core 2 duo, but do not have the funds yet...

Can get all the parts plus a $60 CPU...

hUMANbEATbOX · 06-22-07, 02:40 PM

i agree.

but i didn't know what you were trying to say with this thread, just going by the first post.

i've been linking ppl to conroe-l's at newegg for a few days now. they look like great budget cpu's, probably a lot of fun for the money.

GTengineer · 06-22-07, 02:42 PM

not bad but aren't the E21XX's well below $100 too? (I cant find them at the egg).

hUMANbEATbOX · 06-22-07, 02:50 PM

i think about $80 for the e2140. $45 for a 420.

*edit* yep: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116037

Joeteck · 06-22-07, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hUMANbEATbOX

i think about $80 for the e2140. $45 for a 420.

*edit* yep: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116037

The e2140 is a Pentium, not a core 2...big difference... Says Pentium right on the box.

So its like a Pentium D essentially.

TheCheat · 06-22-07, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeteck

The e2140 is a Pentium, not a core 2...big difference... Says Pentium right on the box.

So its like a Pentium D essentially.

The e2140 is based off the conroe core, but with less cache, 1 meg if im not mistaken.

GTengineer · 06-22-07, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCheat

The e2140 is based off the conroe core, but with less cache, 1 meg if im not mistaken.

Agreed but I thought it was based on the Allendale?

EDIT: No, I think you are right .... Conroe architecture

nd4spdbh2 · 06-22-07, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GTengineer

Agreed but I thought it was based on the Allendale?

EDIT: No, I think you are right .... Conroe architecture

conroe and allendale = core 2 arcitecture... all the same... just allendales are native 2mb chache where as conroes are native 4mb chache.

IMO an E2140 is the ultimate budge chip... dual core, essentially a E4300 minus 200mhz and 1mb of chache.

hUMANbEATbOX · 06-22-07, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeteck

The e2140 is a Pentium, not a core 2...big difference... Says Pentium right on the box.

So its like a Pentium D essentially.

they call it a pentium, but it is a core 2 duo with 1mb total cache, so 512kb each core.

i'm not sure if they are allendale, and just have half of the cache disabled, or if they have a native 1mb total cache. i would guess they are allendale for now, but i'm sure intel will come out with a new core soon that IS native 2x512kb.

nd4spdbh2 · 06-22-07, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hUMANbEATbOX

they call it a pentium, but it is a core 2 duo with 1mb total cache, so 512kb each core.

i'm not sure if they are allendale, and just have half of the cache disabled, or if they have a native 1mb total cache. i would guess they are allendale for now, but i'm sure intel will come out with a new core soon that IS native 2x512kb.

im sure they will... but it wouldnt be 512kb each core... as the way the cache is on a C2D or core 2 arcitecture is that its shared between cores.

inkfx · 06-22-07, 04:21 PM

According to the newegg specs it's an Allendale. And is there even a difference in performance if one chip has it "disabled" and the other is "native"? I know L2s OCed worse than the B2 but performance is the same. So what does it matter?

hUMANbEATbOX · 06-22-07, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by inkfx

According to the newegg specs it's an Allendale. And is there even a difference in performance if one chip has it "disabled" and the other is "native"? I know L2s OCed worse than the B2 but performance is the same. So what does it matter?

well, yeah, it does if one chip oc's better

that factors into performance.

as fas as stock clocks, then really no diff..

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Originally Posted by nd4spdbh2

im sure they will... but it wouldnt be 512kb each core... as the way the cache is on a C2D or core 2 arcitecture is that its shared between cores.

ahh yes, sorry

inkfx · 06-22-07, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hUMANbEATbOX

well, yeah, it does if one chip oc's better

that factors into performance.

as fas as stock clocks, then really no diff..

I meant clock for clock. Of course one chip OCed higher is gonna do better..

hUMANbEATbOX · 06-22-07, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by inkfx

I meant clock for clock. Of course one chip OCed higher is gonna do better..

of course i knew what you meant.

but clock for clock doesn't really mean much IMO, unless we are comparing totally diff architectures. when comparing the same arch, i think the bottom line is, "what clocks higher and at what volts and temps".

Jhonas · 06-22-07, 05:10 PM

Intel used the Pentium brand because people who don't know computer know Pentium as a brand name. Sounds good as a a budget chip, but you keep on getting less and less cache for the money, from 2mb down to 1 and then 512. thats not going to be good for performance, no matter how hard you clock it.

Joeteck · 06-22-07, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hUMANbEATbOX

they call it a pentium, but it is a core 2 duo with 1mb total cache, so 512kb each core.

i'm not sure if they are allendale, and just have half of the cache disabled, or if they have a native 1mb total cache. i would guess they are allendale for now, but i'm sure intel will come out with a new core soon that IS native 2x512kb.

So its a dual core celeron with a funky name

the real question is, what mobo's can see them??

MadMan007 · 06-22-07, 11:27 PM

They are single core. Should work in mobos that take C2Ds? Maybe a BIOS update is needed to recognize the CPU though.

BossBorot · 06-22-07, 11:29 PM

where are the fry's combos with these cheap core2 processors? the cheapest they have is the e4300 combo

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hUMANbEATbOX Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: WINNIPEG REPRUHZENT!	i think about $80 for the e2140. $45 for a 420. edit yep: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116037 __________________ i7 970 @ 4.2ghz - 1.275v 3x4gb 560ti and my baby Lucy <---- Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Jhonas Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Intel used the Pentium brand because people who don't know computer know Pentium as a brand name. Sounds good as a a budget chip, but you keep on getting less and less cache for the money, from 2mb down to 1 and then 512. thats not going to be good for performance, no matter how hard you clock it.
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