Xeon price drop on 22nd?

TombKeeper · 06-29-07, 04:50 PM

Anyone heard anything if the Xeons are dropping in price on the 22nd too or is it just the C2D?

Peepaw · 06-29-07, 05:25 PM

I haven't heard about a price drop on xeons, but I'm usually about the last to know.

GTengineer · 06-29-07, 05:31 PM

I believe they will drop too but don't quote me on that. Of course they would still be more expensive than its counterpart C2D. I think the prices which are pretty set in stone are the extremes.

Reefa_Madness · 06-29-07, 08:09 PM

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6493

I saved that link a while back and have just been waiting for an opportunity to drag it up.

Hope it answers your question...since you didn't specify just which chip it was that you were inquiring about...I can't really answer it for you.

TombKeeper · 06-29-07, 08:59 PM

Was looking at the 5120/5130.... read that article better than the first time I read it earlier and the E5335 looks interesting (2Ghz Quad-core 8Mb 1333) for $316 US ... about $350 CDN or so....Article doesn't mention anything about the 51XX series

Reefa_Madness · 06-29-07, 09:05 PM

Only reference to 51xx series that I saw is this...

"Intel’s low-voltage quad-core Xeon DP 5148 will not receive any price cuts in July 2007 and will continue to cost $519, per processor, in 1,000 unit quantities."

GTengineer · 06-29-07, 09:07 PM

Am I reading this right?? The Q6600 and the X3220 will both have the same price ($266)?? If this is the case wouldnt it make more sense to go with the Xeon?

TombKeeper · 06-29-07, 09:27 PM

Someone else asked the same question and supposedly, they're both the exact same cpu.... the Xeon *might* a better cpu ("cherry picked").....

GTengineer · 06-29-07, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TombKeeper

Someone else asked the same question and supposedly, they're both the exact same cpu.... the Xeon *might* a better cpu ("cherry picked").....

yes I know but right now the Xeon version is slightly more expensive (they typically are). Unless these are very rough price estimation. I don't understand why anyone would pick a Q6600 over the Xeon if this was the case.

Evilsizer · 06-29-07, 09:33 PM

well since xeons are ment for server settings it would make sense to cherry pick for the xeon line. keep tdp low and charge more since they would be ment for long term operation.

TombKeeper · 06-29-07, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilsizer

well since xeons are ment for server settings it would make sense to cherry pick for the xeon line. keep tdp low and charge more since they would be ment for long term operation.

What's the point? There's still P3/Athlon systems around that have run 24/7..... Aren't cpus supposed to last about 10 years? Who the heck keeps the same cpu for more than 5-7 years?

Evilsizer · 06-29-07, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TombKeeper

What's the point? There's still P3/Athlon systems around that have run 24/7..... Aren't cpus supposed to last about 10 years? Who the heck keeps the same cpu for more than 5-7 years?

you would be suprised.... i do tech support and one customer called in. there pc was a duron 1ghz with 128mb of ram with XP and they were tring to use a program that requires a min of 256mb's of ram. GO figure they wanted to program to work perfectly but didnt want to spend the money on more ram.

server envoriments have different requirments then home/desktop pc's. since the xeons have a slightly higher price it makes perfect since they would cherry pick them.

MadMan007 · 06-29-07, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GTengineer

Am I reading this right?? The Q6600 and the X3220 will both have the same price ($266)?? If this is the case wouldnt it make more sense to go with the Xeon?

That's how is is now for the single-socket Xeons as well. Remember these prices are bulk prices. Street prices for retail packaging don't always match that but Xeon C2Ds always had a slight price premium.

Roisen · 06-30-07, 03:27 AM

Are the Q6600 and the X3220 interchangeable? (Could I take out my E6400 and drop in the X3220?)

I always thought the new xeons used 771 pins

TombKeeper · 06-30-07, 07:56 AM

The Xeon 3xxx are 775 socket... but 'home' desktop doesn't mention anything about being able to use them...the 'server' class Mbs do (even entry level type). It was the same thing with AMD 939 and the Opteron 939 - but people were able to use them no prob.

Roisen · 07-01-07, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TombKeeper

The Xeon 3xxx are 775 socket... but 'home' desktop doesn't mention anything about being able to use them...the 'server' class Mbs do (even entry level type). It was the same thing with AMD 939 and the Opteron 939 - but people were able to use them no prob.

I'm confused... So I'm not supposed to be able to use them, but I can?

GTengineer · 07-01-07, 01:02 AM

I think what he is trying to say is that you will not find a "desktop" motherboard that says "supports Xeon processors" but yes if they are socket 775 you can drop it in your board.

TombKeeper · 07-01-07, 09:51 PM

Yes, but you won't receive any tech support from anyone since it's not actually "made" to run Xeon's.......

I have an opteron cpu in my AMD64 Mb and works great... so it might be the same with using a Xeon in any socket 775 board - remember it's only the Xeon 3xxx series that are socket 775. The rest are 771...wont work for sure...

Shakir_Akbari · 07-26-07, 03:08 AM

this should stir things up a bit

neweggs price on the Intel Xeon X3220 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Retail = $315 (USD)

at that price there is a chance i'll get that over the binned q6600, and pray that it will work in a ga-g33m-ds2r mobo

any thoughts?

Stratcat · 07-26-07, 04:51 AM

^^^

My thoughts -

Don't expect G-0's; They are still shipping B3's. I just got one this afternoon (WED) from a very late nite Monday order.

X3220 B3 L640F SL9UP - 5/07 pack - VID = 1.2875V

3.4G (9 multi) @ 1.475Vcore and still testing - 62*C Coretemp/47*C SpeedFan - Quad Orthos (four instances - one for each core)

Everything else same as in my sig, except change the processor line.

No idea if I will keep it, seeing as the G-0's seem to be showing good stuff...but this dayem thing is cranking out Distributed Computing, like a mofo!

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06-29-07, 05:31 PM	#3
GTengineer Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yorktown, VA	I believe they will drop too but don't quote me on that. Of course they would still be more expensive than its counterpart C2D. I think the prices which are pretty set in stone are the extremes.
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Reefa_Madness DRAM Guru Senior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St. Johns, FL	http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6493 I saved that link a while back and have just been waiting for an opportunity to drag it up. Hope it answers your question...since you didn't specify just which chip it was that you were inquiring about...I can't really answer it for you. __________________ In memory of Gracie, my sweet, sweet wife and mother of my children. Darling, we will miss you dearly. May you rest in peace (born to this world on March 30, 1976; went to her Heavenly Father on Good Friday, April 22, 2011). http://animoto.com/play/E0wFhd6tN0nA...ent=challenger Heat
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06-29-07, 08:59 PM	Thread Starter #5
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	Was looking at the 5120/5130.... read that article better than the first time I read it earlier and the E5335 looks interesting (2Ghz Quad-core 8Mb 1333) for $316 US ... about $350 CDN or so....Article doesn't mention anything about the 51XX series __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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06-29-07, 09:05 PM	#6
Reefa_Madness DRAM Guru Senior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St. Johns, FL	Only reference to 51xx series that I saw is this... "Intel’s low-voltage quad-core Xeon DP *5148* will not receive any price cuts in July 2007 and will continue to cost $519, per processor, in 1,000 unit quantities." __________________ In memory of Gracie, my sweet, sweet wife and mother of my children. Darling, we will miss you dearly. May you rest in peace (born to this world on March 30, 1976; went to her Heavenly Father on Good Friday, April 22, 2011). http://animoto.com/play/E0wFhd6tN0nA...ent=challenger Heat
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06-29-07, 09:07 PM	#7
GTengineer Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yorktown, VA	Am I reading this right?? The Q6600 and the X3220 will both have the same price ($266)?? If this is the case wouldnt it make more sense to go with the Xeon?
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06-29-07, 09:27 PM	Thread Starter #8
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	Someone else asked the same question and supposedly, they're both the exact same cpu.... the Xeon might a better cpu ("cherry picked")..... __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	well since xeons are ment for server settings it would make sense to cherry pick for the xeon line. keep tdp low and charge more since they would be ment for long term operation. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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Roisen Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Folding in Ames, IA	Are the Q6600 and the X3220 interchangeable? (Could I take out my E6400 and drop in the X3220?) I always thought the new xeons used 771 pins
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06-30-07, 07:56 AM	Thread Starter #15
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	The Xeon 3xxx are 775 socket... but 'home' desktop doesn't mention anything about being able to use them...the 'server' class Mbs do (even entry level type). It was the same thing with AMD 939 and the Opteron 939 - but people were able to use them no prob. __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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07-01-07, 01:02 AM	#17
GTengineer Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yorktown, VA	I think what he is trying to say is that you will not find a "desktop" motherboard that says "supports Xeon processors" but yes if they are socket 775 you can drop it in your board.
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07-01-07, 09:51 PM	Thread Starter #18
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	Yes, but you won't receive any tech support from anyone since it's not actually "made" to run Xeon's....... I have an opteron cpu in my AMD64 Mb and works great... so it might be the same with using a Xeon in any socket 775 board - remember it's only the Xeon 3xxx series that are socket 775. The rest are 771...wont work for sure... __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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07-26-07, 03:08 AM	#19
Shakir_Akbari Registered Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London / Chicago	this should stir things up a bit neweggs price on the Intel Xeon X3220 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Retail = $315 (USD) at that price there is a chance i'll get that over the binned q6600, and pray that it will work in a ga-g33m-ds2r mobo any thoughts?
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07-26-07, 04:51 AM	#20
Stratcat Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago - USA	^^^ My thoughts - Don't expect G-0's; They are still shipping B3's. I just got one this afternoon (WED) from a very late nite Monday order. X3220 B3 L640F SL9UP - 5/07 pack - VID = 1.2875V 3.4G (9 multi) @ 1.475Vcore and still testing - 62C Coretemp/47C SpeedFan - Quad Orthos (four instances - one for each core) Everything else same as in my sig, except change the processor line. No idea if I will keep it, seeing as the G-0's seem to be showing good stuff...but this dayem thing is cranking out Distributed Computing, like a mofo! ~ Strat ~ __________________ CPU: X3220 B3 L640F SL9UP 1.2875 VID - 3.4G [8 X 425] 1.4875V - 44 Idle\|62 Load (Core Temp 0.95) Mobo: Asus P5B-Dlx Rev 1.03G - AS5 Everything - Bios 0910 Final H20: Swiftech: MCP350 --> Two MCR120's in Parallel + Two Enermax 95 CFM --> MCW6000 - AS5 DDR-II: G.Skill PC6400 HZ Micron D9 [2 x 1GB] 1:1 425MHz \| 4-4-4-10 \| 2.10V HDD: WD 36G SATA-I Raptor Video: ATI Radeon X1950Pro - Stock Reference Model Monitor: Viewsonic/Optiquest Q115 - 21" Audio: TB Santa Cruz + Klipsch Promethia 2.1 PSU: OCZ PowerStream 520ADJ - 33A +12V Rail - 1% Output Regulation UPS: APC RS1000 - 1KVA 600W - USB Hibernate Case: "we don't need no stinkin' case" O/S: WinXPro-SP2 - Reg Tweaked - Opera 9.22 Stability: Quad Orthos/Memtest86+/PCMark05/3DMark06 - Currently Running Distributed Computing 24/7
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