AMD dishes the dirt on upcoming Phenom products

Evilsizer · 07-28-07, 05:39 PM

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-products.html

that i would post this up since i havent seen it in here yet.

Kuroimaho · 07-28-07, 09:35 PM

These infos are like a smokescreen.
We want benches to know, does this whole lineup worth anything ?

harlam357 · 07-29-07, 12:05 AM

All I can say is, if Phenom isn't compatible with today's AM2 mobos then I'll be one ill'ed out AMD fanboy.

AlabamaCajun · 07-29-07, 09:27 AM

I think this Leo maneuver is just going to be a die shrink for CPUs with some getting cache enhancements. Putting my bets on the 45nm CPUs will work in SKT AM2 (most boards). Some mobos just may have issues, always happens.

Kuroimaho · 07-29-07, 11:03 AM

I concur, just a die shrink but comes with it's usual requirements mobos with weaker pwm, jumping voltages might fail.
They said they really want the cpus to be backwards compatible with their mobos which is not a bad idea if makes people stick with AMD.

AlabamaCajun · 07-29-07, 01:30 PM

I'm cautious for the overclockers using non-AM2 plus boards for high OCs on quads. I agree with what you said, I don't think the PWMs/VRegs will be able to handle the load. Current draw goes way up on some of the low stock clock CPUs when you push them. Bring on 2 more cores and the noise levels in the VRegs will climb and I don't see that corrected until we get AM2+ boards with multi-regulation or split filtered rails. What I saying here is that the volt rail from the MOSFETS is split into 4 parallel rails each with it's own caps. Ultimately you would want 4 independent regulators but that will raise the board price by $20-$50 (e35-e70).

harlam357 · 07-29-07, 07:06 PM

As I've seen on my Biostar 7025... the vregs get uber hot when pushing the OC. No telling what kind of power it's really drawing compared to a stock clocked 3600, but I believe I have a pretty leaky 3600, so I'm sure it's really pulling some juice. Hopefully with the addition of some sinks on the vregs I can get the power stabilized enough to do some quad OC'ing. That's definitely my plan.

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07-29-07, 12:05 AM	#3
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07-29-07, 09:27 AM	#4
AlabamaCajun Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: A Labyrinth	I think this Leo maneuver is just going to be a die shrink for CPUs with some getting cache enhancements. Putting my bets on the 45nm CPUs will work in SKT AM2 (most boards). Some mobos just may have issues, always happens. __________________ Main Rigs Developement -Phen2 1090T on Asus 870 Fun -Callisto 555BE, Asus 990FX Sabortooth,ATI HD3870 CDs, Labels, Printing etc- 5000BBE, GA790FX, Wintec 800 4G.HD2600XT Rendering Server- 4x Barcelona 8347s. Tyan S4980 Quad, 16G (2G Kingston per socket). Folding, Testing- Vista, Regor 265 X2 on Asus 880, dead- Phen2-940 AM2, DFI790FX-M2R,Corsair-PC6400 CL4 Theme Park Builder 3D The Game- Build-em and Ride-em.
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07-29-07, 11:03 AM	#5
Kuroimaho Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan, Tokyo, Ueno.	I concur, just a die shrink but comes with it's usual requirements mobos with weaker pwm, jumping voltages might fail. They said they really want the cpus to be backwards compatible with their mobos which is not a bad idea if makes people stick with AMD. __________________ Zalman Zmachine GT1000 I7920 4G Apogee GTZ I7, Bloodrage, 6GB, Intel X25-V, 2X WD3000GLFS R0, Hitachi 7K3 X4 R5, 580 GTX, IIYAMA 27", Corsair HX750, Steelseries 7G, XAI, SX Zalman TNN300 Q6600 3.4G, Asus P5E-VM, 2GB, WD3000GLFS, 2x501LJ, Apple 23" Zalman TNN500 Phenom 2 550 X4 3.5G, GA-MA790FX-UD5P, TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX,Tesla C1060, WD3000GLFS 3x1TB WD, Apple 30".
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07-29-07, 01:30 PM	#6
AlabamaCajun Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: A Labyrinth	I'm cautious for the overclockers using non-AM2 plus boards for high OCs on quads. I agree with what you said, I don't think the PWMs/VRegs will be able to handle the load. Current draw goes way up on some of the low stock clock CPUs when you push them. Bring on 2 more cores and the noise levels in the VRegs will climb and I don't see that corrected until we get AM2+ boards with multi-regulation or split filtered rails. What I saying here is that the volt rail from the MOSFETS is split into 4 parallel rails each with it's own caps. Ultimately you would want 4 independent regulators but that will raise the board price by $20-$50 (e35-e70). __________________ Main Rigs Developement -Phen2 1090T on Asus 870 Fun -Callisto 555BE, Asus 990FX Sabortooth,ATI HD3870 CDs, Labels, Printing etc- 5000BBE, GA790FX, Wintec 800 4G.HD2600XT Rendering Server- 4x Barcelona 8347s. Tyan S4980 Quad, 16G (2G Kingston per socket). Folding, Testing- Vista, Regor 265 X2 on Asus 880, dead- Phen2-940 AM2, DFI790FX-M2R,Corsair-PC6400 CL4 Theme Park Builder 3D The Game- Build-em and Ride-em.
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07-29-07, 07:06 PM	#7
harlam357 Senior Fold-a-holic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: @Home... Folding@Home	As I've seen on my Biostar 7025... the vregs get uber hot when pushing the OC. No telling what kind of power it's really drawing compared to a stock clocked 3600, but I believe I have a pretty leaky 3600, so I'm sure it's really pulling some juice. Hopefully with the addition of some sinks on the vregs I can get the power stabilized enough to do some quad OC'ing. That's definitely my plan. __________________ HFM.NET - Client Monitoring Application for Folding@Home \| Team 32 Super Sticky \| Project Quadteron \| Heat (66-0-0)
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