Conroe or Allendale

danzio · 08-30-07, 08:00 AM

I just ordered components for a new system build and based on many posts here decided on the E2140 from Newegg. The ones they are selling (at least today) are Allendale cores and I see most of the posts refer to Conroes. I also think (based on other posts) that the difference between the two is the Conroe has 2mb L2 cache, although 1mb is disabled, whereas the Allendale has only 1mb to begin with. Then it begs the question, if the Conroe's reduced to 1mb due to the disabling, what if any difference is there between the two CPU's,

and finally my real question, will the Allendale OC to the numbers I am seeing in many of the posts?

Thanks,

sofarfrome · 08-30-07, 08:06 AM

Conroes also have a 1066FSB whereas Allendale has 800FSB. The Allendales will OC well, I have a 2140 that will OC to 3.1GHz with a small increase in vcore.

Maverick0984 · 08-30-07, 08:24 AM

Conroe > Allendale

Try to get a hold of a Conroe, that being said, you won't be disappointed with an Allendale either.

Evilsizer · 08-30-07, 08:55 AM

Allendale core based cpus need a tad more volts to oc vs the conroe base ones. I had a E4300 which is allendale based that did 3ghz on stock volts. It still the luck of the draw so you may not hit the numbers you are seeing, you might get close however.

PMental · 08-30-07, 10:08 AM

My e2140 overclocked to 3.2Ghz (100%) at 1.4v.

That's enough for me

White_Pawn · 08-30-07, 11:12 AM

I didn't think the E2xxx ever came in a conroe core?

UBB · 08-30-07, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sofarfrome

Conroes also have a 1066FSB whereas Allendale has 800FSB.

I thought the difference between a Conroe and an Allendale was Allendale only has 2mb L2 cache.

hUMANbEATbOX · 08-30-07, 11:32 AM

The fsb is pretty much insignificant, just like the multi. The main, and important diff between the Allendales and the Conroes, is the cache. Conroe has 4mb native, but 2mb is disabled by Intel. Allendale has 2mb native. The e21x0's are Allendale, but the have 1mb of cache disabled. There have been no Conroe e21x0's.

e6300's and e6400's used to be Conroe, but were since converted over to Allendale. My e6300 is a Conroe, and it clocks significantly better than Allendale e6300's. But for a budget CPU like a e2140, being Allendale really doesn't matter. They still clock great for the money spent.

sofarfrome · 08-30-07, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBB

I thought the difference between a Conroe and an Allendale was Allendale only has 2mb L2 cache.

nope...check the specs

DomoRawks · 08-31-07, 05:35 AM

Conroe has an extra instruction set that Allendale lacks as well as more cache.

Still, allendales OC to buggery just like conroes.

th3 · 08-31-07, 05:50 AM

Allendale lacks VT, that might be a consideration for some. For example, if you want to run a 64bit guest OS on a 32bit host OS you need Conroe, 64bit support alone is not enough in that case. Not a big problem but for software testing and development purposes its nice to have that option.

E2140 is great, the small cache isnt much of a problem from what i can see, perfect placeholder for Yorkfield.

08-30-07, 08:00 AM	Thread Starter #1
danzio Member Join Date: Jul 2004	Conroe or Allendale I just ordered components for a new system build and based on many posts here decided on the E2140 from Newegg. The ones they are selling (at least today) are Allendale cores and I see most of the posts refer to Conroes. I also think (based on other posts) that the difference between the two is the Conroe has 2mb L2 cache, although 1mb is disabled, whereas the Allendale has only 1mb to begin with. Then it begs the question, if the Conroe's reduced to 1mb due to the disabling, what if any difference is there between the two CPU's, and finally my real question, will the Allendale OC to the numbers I am seeing in many of the posts? Thanks, __________________ Intel E2140,Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L,Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 2GB Kit,EVGA 8800GTS 320:-) Sigma Shark PSU 580W. Antec P-160 Case (W (2) 120MM Fans), SamsungSyncmaster 225BW 20" WS Monitor NEC ND2510-A DVDBurner,LITE-ON CDRW LTR52327S
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08-30-07, 08:06 AM	#2
sofarfrome Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Conroes also have a 1066FSB whereas Allendale has 800FSB. The Allendales will OC well, I have a 2140 that will OC to 3.1GHz with a small increase in vcore. __________________ ASUS P8P67-Pro B3: i2600K; GSkill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 (2x4GB); Apogee GTX; Thermochill PA120.3; Swiftech D655; XFX-5870HD; WD 500GB Sata lll Raid-0; LG Blu-ray burner; Silverstone 750W modular; Windows 7 64Bit
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08-30-07, 08:24 AM	#3
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08-30-07, 08:55 AM	#4
Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	Allendale core based cpus need a tad more volts to oc vs the conroe base ones. I had a E4300 which is allendale based that did 3ghz on stock volts. It still the luck of the draw so you may not hit the numbers you are seeing, you might get close however. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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08-30-07, 10:08 AM	#5
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08-30-07, 11:12 AM	#6
White_Pawn Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada	I didn't think the E2xxx ever came in a conroe core? __________________ - - M a i n R i g - - E2140 @ 375 x 8 = 3ghz w/ 1.3375v ^Tuniq Tower 120^ Gigabyte P35-S3L powercolor HD4890 @ 850/975 OCZ System 1337s 2x1 5-5-5-15 2T @ 450mhz. 2TB 7200.12+ Seagate Silverstone Decathalon 650W Modular
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08-30-07, 11:32 AM	#8
hUMANbEATbOX Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: WINNIPEG REPRUHZENT!	The fsb is pretty much insignificant, just like the multi. The main, and important diff between the Allendales and the Conroes, is the cache. Conroe has 4mb native, but 2mb is disabled by Intel. Allendale has 2mb native. The e21x0's are Allendale, but the have 1mb of cache disabled. There have been no Conroe e21x0's. e6300's and e6400's used to be Conroe, but were since converted over to Allendale. My e6300 is a Conroe, and it clocks significantly better than Allendale e6300's. But for a budget CPU like a e2140, being Allendale really doesn't matter. They still clock great for the money spent. __________________ i7 970 @ 4.2ghz - 1.275v 3x4gb 560ti and my baby Lucy <---- Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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08-31-07, 05:35 AM	#10
DomoRawks Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Conroe has an extra instruction set that Allendale lacks as well as more cache. Still, allendales OC to buggery just like conroes.
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08-31-07, 05:50 AM	#11
th3 Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Allendale lacks VT, that might be a consideration for some. For example, if you want to run a 64bit guest OS on a 32bit host OS you need Conroe, 64bit support alone is not enough in that case. Not a big problem but for software testing and development purposes its nice to have that option. E2140 is great, the small cache isnt much of a problem from what i can see, perfect placeholder for Yorkfield.
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