Overclockers

treatmentx · 09-18-07, 02:07 PM

This is a feature in your BIOS that you must turn off. It's a protection / power saving feature Intel has provided in their chips.

Example : Your FSB is 1600 (or 400QDR), and you set your Multi at 9x in your bios, but when you use CPU-Z it shows up as 2400 at 6x Multi. If this happens to you, then ....

Turn off Speedstep / C1E / EIST in your BIOS, and this problem will disappear 99% of the time.
(While you're at it, turn off other features as well, like Virtualization if you're not using it, etc etc. Provides some cooling gain, supposedly)
AFTER you have found your stable overclock, you can turn these power savings feature back on if you wish to conserve power when your system is idle.

If it doesn't, then post your mobo, bios, cpu, voltages, temps. Everyone will be glad to help, let's just solve the most common mistake first.

Disable both C1E and Speedstep (sometimes called EIST)

GTengineer · 09-18-07, 02:10 PM

STICKY PLEASE

But I would add that if stable, then Speedstep and C1E should be left enabled since they will help keep your room cooler and having cooler ambient will ultimately allow for better cpu cooling.

Tyranos · 09-18-07, 02:57 PM

Hah, I thought everyone turned this off anyway.

Surfrider77 · 09-18-07, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyranos

Hah, I thought everyone turned this off anyway.

You would think, but this question pops up as a new thread on at least a weekly basis.

Should certainly be stickied.

Elluzion · 09-18-07, 03:07 PM

PLEASE READ THE STICKIES!

jivetrky · 09-18-07, 03:35 PM

Yeah, this question comes up all the time...a sticky might be a good idea, but then everyone would just ignore it like they do with all the other stickies.

GTengineer · 09-18-07, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jivetrky

Yeah, this question comes up all the time...a sticky might be a good idea, but then everyone would just ignore it like they do with all the other stickies.

true but at least we can just copy and paste the link to the sticky

treatmentx · 09-18-07, 04:06 PM

I figure if this was on the front page, with a title like this, it would've detered most of the questions. I think new people are lazy to click on the "condensed" stickies. I didn't mind it so much, except I saw 3 threads that popped up within hours of each other...

Anyway, with a thread title like this, hopefully it'll resolve most. =)

ancalime · 09-18-07, 05:25 PM

Perhaps the title should be in all caps and this post constantly bumped.

CryptWizard · 09-18-07, 05:30 PM

For me, when EIST is off in the BIOS, Windows will still SpeedStep the multiplier.

GTengineer · 09-18-07, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptWizard

For me, when EIST is off in the BIOS, Windows will still SpeedStep the multiplier.

Are you using Vista? Vista has some performance setting that will do this independent of BIOS I believe. I don't use Vista so I cannot be of more help.

OC Detective · 09-18-07, 10:52 PM

This is actually in the overclocking sticky already - I guess some people haven't bothered to read it. Hence the continual q's about it.

bing · 09-18-07, 11:02 PM

Imo, its worth sticky too, but this thread needs a really good eyecatching thread's title to be effective.

It would be great as well if the OP put some examples of the BIOS screenies from few popular mobos on how to do that.

To all concerning members, a contribution on your BIOS screen on how to do that will be really helpfull and my suggestion is to send it to the OP for him to put those screen shots at the 1st post as a example.

My 0.02

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GTengineer · 09-18-07, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Detective

This is actually in the overclocking sticky already - I guess some people haven't bothered to read it. Hence the continual q's about it.

It is but it is buried in there and I don't blame the newbies for not wanting to read through pages and pages for a simple question that can be answered in a single sentence. This is asked often enough that I think it deserves it's own sticky with a descriptive name as bing said.

White_Pawn · 09-19-07, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfrider77

You would think, but this question pops up as a new thread on at least a weekly basis.

Should certainly be stickied.

There literally is a new thread every week. I stopped answering them. LOL

treatmentx · 09-19-07, 12:47 AM

downloaded and edited an image, hopefully this will put a stop to 99% of it all

GotNoRice · 09-19-07, 01:37 AM

Is this really something that needs to be "fixed"? Seems like it's just people not understanding what's going on.

treatmentx · 09-19-07, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotNoRice

Is this really something that needs to be "fixed"? Seems like it's just people not understanding what's going on.

No, you're right. It's not "broken" per say, but I worded it so that when less overclocking experienced people browse the forums it would easily stand out to them.

(and by me responding to your post, it rebumps it. *high 5* hehe)

Added a picture, hopefully clears up everything.

batboy · 09-19-07, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White_Pawn

There literally is a new thread every week.

Sometimes it's daily. This speedstep thing has been out for years now. But, I remember not that long ago we got the same "how do you unlock the multiplier on Intel processors" all the time.

treatmentx · 09-24-07, 12:54 PM

*bump*

New week, and someone already started another thread w/ the 6x-9x issue again.

One Bull · 09-24-07, 01:54 PM

oh please sticky this, this question is here on a daily basis

jordon · 09-24-07, 03:15 PM

my god please sticky this before i smash my head into the wall

... the reason why people will read it , is cause it states the problem in the thread title, the other threads are too general so people skip them over.

w2richwood · 09-24-07, 03:53 PM

i vote sticky also
Rich

drotto25 · 09-24-07, 10:24 PM

Sorry for my ignorance.

aja · 09-25-07, 06:59 AM

bumpity bump bump BUMP!!!

Keeps popping up

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=528830

One Bull · 09-26-07, 12:04 PM

Wow and that's even a member who has been here a long time. this really is one of the basic steps in oc'ing

DaPoets · 09-27-07, 05:09 PM

Probably should just add watchdog in there too... That needs to be disabled on intel boards if you want to OC.

sp33dball · 10-04-07, 03:28 PM

To the top!

Evilsizer · 10-04-07, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp33dball

To the top!

yea cause i just another thread asking about this....

ok maybe time to add this in my sig....

treatmentx · 10-05-07, 10:18 AM

*bump* another thread today

09-18-07, 02:07 PM	#1
treatmentx Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Overclock but shows 6x and slow speed? (This is the fix) This is a feature in your BIOS that you must turn off. It's a protection / power saving feature Intel has provided in their chips. Example : Your FSB is 1600 (or 400QDR), and you set your Multi at 9x in your bios, but when you use CPU-Z it shows up as 2400 at 6x Multi. If this happens to you, then .... Turn off Speedstep / C1E / EIST in your BIOS, and this problem will disappear 99% of the time. (While you're at it, turn off other features as well, like Virtualization if you're not using it, etc etc. Provides some cooling gain, supposedly) AFTER you have found your stable overclock, you can turn these power savings feature back on if you wish to conserve power when your system is idle. If it doesn't, then post your mobo, bios, cpu, voltages, temps. Everyone will be glad to help, let's just solve the most common mistake first. Disable both C1E and Speedstep (sometimes called EIST) Last edited by treatmentx; 09-19-07 at 12:46 AM. Reason: Added an Image

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09-18-07, 11:02 PM	#13
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09-18-07, 02:10 PM	#2
GTengineer Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yorktown, VA	STICKY PLEASE But I would add that if stable, then Speedstep and C1E should be left enabled since they will help keep your room cooler and having cooler ambient will ultimately allow for better cpu cooling.

09-18-07, 02:57 PM	#3
Tyranos Member Join Date: Jul 2001	Hah, I thought everyone turned this off anyway.

09-18-07, 04:06 PM	#8
treatmentx Member Join Date: Aug 2006	I figure if this was on the front page, with a title like this, it would've detered most of the questions. I think new people are lazy to click on the "condensed" stickies. I didn't mind it so much, except I saw 3 threads that popped up within hours of each other... Anyway, with a thread title like this, hopefully it'll resolve most. =)

09-18-07, 05:30 PM	#10
CryptWizard Registered Join Date: Sep 2007	For me, when EIST is off in the BIOS, Windows will still SpeedStep the multiplier.

09-18-07, 10:52 PM	#12
OC Detective Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Malaysia	This is actually in the overclocking sticky already - I guess some people haven't bothered to read it. Hence the continual q's about it.

09-19-07, 12:47 AM	#16
treatmentx Member Join Date: Aug 2006	downloaded and edited an image, hopefully this will put a stop to 99% of it all

09-19-07, 01:37 AM	#17
GotNoRice Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA	Is this really something that needs to be "fixed"? Seems like it's just people not understanding what's going on. __________________ Intel Q9650 E0 @ 4.4Ghz - Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - 2x 4870x2 Quad CrossfireX - 6GB PC8500 - X-Fi Titanium PCI-E - BFG PhysX PPU - Intel X25-M G2, 4 Storage Drives - Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w - Samsung 245BW Intel Q6600 G0 @ 3.6Ghz - Asus P5Q-Pro - 2x 4850 Crossfire - 4GB PC6400 - Audigy2 ZS - 2x 15k 36gb SCSI Raid-0, 2x 10k 146gb SCSI Raid-0 - Antec Earthwatts EA650

09-24-07, 12:54 PM	#20
treatmentx Member Join Date: Aug 2006	bump New week, and someone already started another thread w/ the 6x-9x issue again.

09-24-07, 01:54 PM	#21
One Bull Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Enschede, Holland	oh please sticky this, this question is here on a daily basis

09-24-07, 03:15 PM	#22
jordon Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Watertown, Mn	my god please sticky this before i smash my head into the wall ... the reason why people will read it , is cause it states the problem in the thread title, the other threads are too general so people skip them over.

09-24-07, 03:53 PM	#23
w2richwood Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alta Loma Calif.	i vote sticky also Rich __________________ mb rampage 2 extreme cpu i7 920do ram kingston 1600 3x1gig video ati 4890 1gig ps corsair 750tx cooler venomous x push pull hd.s 2xwd raptors in raido case cm. storm sniper My Heatware

09-24-07, 10:24 PM	#24
drotto25 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey	Sorry for my ignorance.

09-25-07, 06:59 AM	#25
aja Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: SOUTH AFRICA, and yes, we do have electricity, and no, lions dont walk around in our streets	bumpity bump bump BUMP!!! Keeps popping up http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=528830

09-26-07, 12:04 PM	#26
One Bull Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Enschede, Holland	Wow and that's even a member who has been here a long time. this really is one of the basic steps in oc'ing

09-27-07, 05:09 PM	#27
DaPoets Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Buffalo NY	Probably should just add watchdog in there too... That needs to be disabled on intel boards if you want to OC.

10-04-07, 03:28 PM	#28
sp33dball Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lincoln, NE	To the top!

10-05-07, 10:18 AM	#30
treatmentx Member Join Date: Aug 2006	bump another thread today