Clocking my X2 3600+ Higher Thread

ps2cho · 10-28-07, 04:53 PM

Hi guys,

I have been running my X2 3600+ at 2.9GHz (306x9.5) for the last 4-6months, but then with summer heating up I clocked it back down to 290x9.5 because I was getting some BSOD's appearing every now and again.

I have it cooled with an Ultra 120 Extreme, but it seems really hot. To the touch it feels between warm and hot.

Here is a picture of temperatures:

^click on it for full size one

And here is my case airflow:

Does 48c according to Coretemp, and 55c according to Speedfan(I KNOW this one is too high for what I should be getting)

Reason's as to why I could be having such high temperatures?

My Celeron 420 with the Gemini II feel's about the same temperature when it's passive through touching the heatsink and the Celeron was doing 58c full load passive.

I should first get a new case because I am over my microATX because I have a laptop that I can carry with me everywhere now

Gotta get a big fatty case with a ton of airflow.

Nebulous · 10-28-07, 05:00 PM

Dam that's HOT!

I'm surprised it hasn't fried with those temps. have you tried 300x9? I don't recommend the 1/2 multis.

For some reason it sounds like that Ultra 120 Extreme isn't getting enough airflow.

ps2cho · 10-28-07, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebulous

Dam that's HOT!

I'm surprised it hasn't fried with those temps. have you tried 300x9? I don't recommend the 1/2 multis.

For some reason it sounds like that Ultra 120 Extreme isn't getting enough airflow.

It's nowhere close to frying...

I know the case isn't ideal that is why I want to get a new one. (just started a post in the cases section).

I might reseat the 120 extreme and check it's all good.

EDIT: I might try the penny mod too:

My ambient temperature in my room is 85F/28c right now.

JackNSally · 10-28-07, 05:27 PM

Rotate the heatsink 90 degrees so the intake of the fan on the heatsink is pointing forward instead of down and then check the temps.

ps2cho · 10-28-07, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackNSally

Rotate the heatsink 90 degrees so the intake of the fan on the heatsink is pointing forward instead of down and then check the temps.

You can't do that with the 120X on the AM2 socket.

WonderingSoul · 10-28-07, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ps2cho

You can't do that with the 120X on the AM2 socket.

Can try using an S-Clip. I don't know it will work or not. Other options are setting the fan to pull and blow into the PSU, or getting a Tuniq Tower for the cross flow.

hank123 · 10-28-07, 05:40 PM

i bet he has crappy paste

ps2cho · 10-28-07, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hank123

i bet he has crappy paste

I used AS5.

What do you mean by an S clip?

jonspd · 10-28-07, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackNSally

Rotate the heatsink 90 degrees so the intake of the fan on the heatsink is pointing forward instead of down and then check the temps.

I beat if you do this it will help///

except make it blow toward the back of the case IMO

jonspd · 10-28-07, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hank123

i bet he has crappy paste

not all of us are noobs

ps2cho · 10-28-07, 06:12 PM

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thsforforhru.html

^ I am assuming it is that. My only concern would be if it actually works? The mechanism seems much more flimsy.

Here's what my paste looks like. It seems that there is not much paste in the center where it would be most needed. The 120X probably needs a lapping. What do you guys think?

Opteron 1100 · 10-28-07, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JackNSally

Rotate the heatsink 90 degrees so the intake of the fan on the heatsink is pointing forward instead of down and then check the temps.

I agree that would make a difference if you could do it , i had my 9700 installed
like that up and down which was wrong and my temps were high , once i switched it around all good

jonspd · 10-28-07, 06:14 PM

Paste looks fine. You need the 120 fan pointing towards the back of the case where the 80mm fan can dump the hot air IMO

the s compared to the other looks less likely to work good...

Opteron 1100 · 10-28-07, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps2cho

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thsforforhru.html

^ I am assuming it is that. My only concern would be if it actually works? The mechanism seems much more flimsy.

Here's what my paste looks like. It seems that there is not much paste in the center where it would be most needed. The 120X probably needs a lapping. What do you guys think?

I find the best way to apply the grease is to put a dab in the middle , about like a rice grain.
let the hs spread it

jonspd · 10-28-07, 06:17 PM

I think a business card works best IMO...

you can spread a very fine layer

ps2cho · 10-28-07, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jonspd

I think a business card works best IMO...

you can spread a very fine layer

I use those fake credit cards they send you in the mail for applications.

Ok look what I found!

^ You see that scratch and the marking from the CPU at the top left corner? No idea where the scratch came from, but I am going to make a conclusion that the other indent is from too much pressure from one of the sides of the CPU. Just checked the CPU for damage, and it seems fine.

Going to do a quick lapping and try to get rid of that scratch and even the surface. Will post back in a bit.

funnyperson1 · 10-28-07, 06:30 PM

lapping the heatsink, the ihs, and then doing the penny mod would probably help

jonspd · 10-28-07, 06:32 PM

yea that shouldn't harm the temp to much the problem I saw was that you where sucking heat from you vgpu into you hsf...

WonderingSoul · 10-28-07, 06:44 PM

Try mounting the fan the way I recommended too. I think that might help more than you think. Thay way it doesn't have to struggle as much to suck air into the fan, and the heat is directly dumped into the PSU and then out of the case.

jonspd · 10-28-07, 06:54 PM

you dont want the heat to go to the psu you want it out the case

10-28-07, 04:53 PM	Thread Starter #1
ps2cho Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Socal, no hella here	Clocking my X2 3600+ Higher Thread Hi guys, I have been running my X2 3600+ at 2.9GHz (306x9.5) for the last 4-6months, but then with summer heating up I clocked it back down to 290x9.5 because I was getting some BSOD's appearing every now and again. I have it cooled with an Ultra 120 Extreme, but it seems really hot. To the touch it feels between warm and hot. Here is a picture of temperatures: ^click on it for full size one And here is my case airflow: Does 48c according to Coretemp, and 55c according to Speedfan(I KNOW this one is too high for what I should be getting) Reason's as to why I could be having such high temperatures? My Celeron 420 with the Gemini II feel's about the same temperature when it's passive through touching the heatsink and the Celeron was doing 58c full load passive. I should first get a new case because I am over my microATX because I have a laptop that I can carry with me everywhere now Gotta get a big fatty case with a ton of airflow. __________________ Q6600 @ 3.6GHz:.:GA-P35-DS3L:.:4GB DDR2 RAM:.:BFG GTX 260:.:Ultra 120 eXtreme:.:Corsair 520HX X2 3600+ @ 3.1GHz:.:GA-MA78GPM-DS2H:.:1GB DDR2 RAM:.:eVGA 7900GS 256MB:.:Corsair 400CX HTPC: X4 620 0.9v:.:DFI LP JR 790GX:.:2GB DDR2 RAM:.:Asus HD4550 512MB:.:Corsair 450VX:.:32" Vizio 1080p HDTV Laptop: Sony Vaio CW27FX:.:Intel Core i5 @ 2.4GHz:.:GT 330M 512MB:.:4GB DDR3 RAM:.:14" LED AMD CPU List:.:How to HLDS:.:Heatware "The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear."-Jiddu Krishnamurti Last edited by ps2cho; 10-28-07 at 04:59 PM.
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Nebulous Señor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Empire State	Dam that's HOT! I'm surprised it hasn't fried with those temps. have you tried 300x9? I don't recommend the 1/2 multis. For some reason it sounds like that Ultra 120 Extreme isn't getting enough airflow. __________________ <MEGA-O> Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H / i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz 16GB GSKILL Sniper F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR XSPC Rasa Black / RX360 / MCP-655 / MCRes OCZ Vertex III SSD 120GB / 2x Seagates 500GB~Raid-0 XFX Double D FX-787A-CDBC Radeon HD 7870 + H80 Sony AD-7220S / Lite On LH-16A1S SilverStone Zeus ZM1350 1350w CM Cosmos 1000 / Win7 Pro x64 Samsung LN40A550 40" HD TV ** Under TITLE II, SECTION 210.340 it is legal to overclock **
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JackNSally Join Date: May 2005	Rotate the heatsink 90 degrees so the intake of the fan on the heatsink is pointing forward instead of down and then check the temps.
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10-28-07, 06:12 PM	Thread Starter #11
ps2cho Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Socal, no hella here	http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thsforforhru.html ^ I am assuming it is that. My only concern would be if it actually works? The mechanism seems much more flimsy. Here's what my paste looks like. It seems that there is not much paste in the center where it would be most needed. The 120X probably needs a lapping. What do you guys think? __________________ Q6600 @ 3.6GHz:.:GA-P35-DS3L:.:4GB DDR2 RAM:.:BFG GTX 260:.:Ultra 120 eXtreme:.:Corsair 520HX X2 3600+ @ 3.1GHz:.:GA-MA78GPM-DS2H:.:1GB DDR2 RAM:.:eVGA 7900GS 256MB:.:Corsair 400CX HTPC: X4 620 0.9v:.:DFI LP JR 790GX:.:2GB DDR2 RAM:.:Asus HD4550 512MB:.:Corsair 450VX:.:32" Vizio 1080p HDTV Laptop: Sony Vaio CW27FX:.:Intel Core i5 @ 2.4GHz:.:GT 330M 512MB:.:4GB DDR3 RAM:.:14" LED AMD CPU List:.:How to HLDS:.:Heatware "The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear."-Jiddu Krishnamurti
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jonspd D11 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ATL, Ga	Paste looks fine. You need the 120 fan pointing towards the back of the case where the 80mm fan can dump the hot air IMO the s compared to the other looks less likely to work good... __________________ GD70\PII955@1.4-----------------------------------------------EX58\920@1.3v 17x200\2.2=NB\2k=HT----------------------------------19x200\True@40c\58c 2x1gb@669@7-7-7-18----------------------------------2x2gb@800@7-7-7-21 2405fpw\280's\evga\bfg----------------------------------2005fpw\2x9800gx2 CorsairHX1000\74gbRaptor----------------------------FSP1010\150gbRaptor CreativeX-Fi-Plat\DvD-rw\Win-7---------------------------------DvD-rw\Win-7 3dMark06=17,650-3dMark05=23,908-Aquamark=216k-Wprime32=6.9sc-Sandra=11kmbs My Heat---------------------------Folding@Home@Team32-----------------------My WebSite
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jonspd D11 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ATL, Ga	I think a business card works best IMO... you can spread a very fine layer __________________ GD70\PII955@1.4-----------------------------------------------EX58\920@1.3v 17x200\2.2=NB\2k=HT----------------------------------19x200\True@40c\58c 2x1gb@669@7-7-7-18----------------------------------2x2gb@800@7-7-7-21 2405fpw\280's\evga\bfg----------------------------------2005fpw\2x9800gx2 CorsairHX1000\74gbRaptor----------------------------FSP1010\150gbRaptor CreativeX-Fi-Plat\DvD-rw\Win-7---------------------------------DvD-rw\Win-7 3dMark06=17,650-3dMark05=23,908-Aquamark=216k-Wprime32=6.9sc-Sandra=11kmbs My Heat---------------------------Folding@Home@Team32-----------------------My WebSite
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jonspd D11 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ATL, Ga	yea that shouldn't harm the temp to much the problem I saw was that you where sucking heat from you vgpu into you hsf... __________________ GD70\PII955@1.4-----------------------------------------------EX58\920@1.3v 17x200\2.2=NB\2k=HT----------------------------------19x200\True@40c\58c 2x1gb@669@7-7-7-18----------------------------------2x2gb@800@7-7-7-21 2405fpw\280's\evga\bfg----------------------------------2005fpw\2x9800gx2 CorsairHX1000\74gbRaptor----------------------------FSP1010\150gbRaptor CreativeX-Fi-Plat\DvD-rw\Win-7---------------------------------DvD-rw\Win-7 3dMark06=17,650-3dMark05=23,908-Aquamark=216k-Wprime32=6.9sc-Sandra=11kmbs My Heat---------------------------Folding@Home@Team32-----------------------My WebSite Last edited by jonspd; 10-28-07 at 06:53 PM.
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jonspd D11 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ATL, Ga	you dont want the heat to go to the psu you want it out the case __________________ GD70\PII955@1.4-----------------------------------------------EX58\920@1.3v 17x200\2.2=NB\2k=HT----------------------------------19x200\True@40c\58c 2x1gb@669@7-7-7-18----------------------------------2x2gb@800@7-7-7-21 2405fpw\280's\evga\bfg----------------------------------2005fpw\2x9800gx2 CorsairHX1000\74gbRaptor----------------------------FSP1010\150gbRaptor CreativeX-Fi-Plat\DvD-rw\Win-7---------------------------------DvD-rw\Win-7 3dMark06=17,650-3dMark05=23,908-Aquamark=216k-Wprime32=6.9sc-Sandra=11kmbs My Heat---------------------------Folding@Home@Team32-----------------------My WebSite
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