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TJ9 · 12-21-01, 10:14 AM

I am thinking of getting Windows XP and duel booting Win98 for my old programs which won't run under WinXP. then I think why not go with Linux?

So here is question 1: Is it possible to get a version of Unix or Linux tht can run games like Dungeon Keeper and Rune?

Question 2:I am also looking at getting Darwin for my computer. Darwin is a version of the Mac OS that can run on a PC. does anybody know what kind of programs it can run?

question 3: Does anybody have a favorite OS that they think would work nice for this.

XWRed1 · 12-21-01, 12:37 PM

1) You can throw Wine, which lets you run (with varying degrees of success) Win32 apps on any Linux distro. Mandrake sells a Gaming Edition that comes with it preinstalled and setup. I feel that I must point out that Rune happens to have a native Linux port made by these people.

2) Last I saw, Darwin x86 only works on 440BX chipsets, and has super limited hardware support.

PolyPill · 12-21-01, 02:23 PM

There's also that Mandrake gaming edition or what ever it's called. I haven't used it or heard of how well it works, but it might be worth a try

David · 12-23-01, 09:35 AM

I don't think WinXP and Linux like to coexist peacefully. WinXP Pro was running fine on my PC until I installed linux again. It worked fine with 98SE but now XP won't shutdown properly. I had to reinstall it ;-(

XWRed1 · 12-23-01, 02:37 PM

They can coexist fine, you just don't know what you're doing

David · 12-24-01, 04:18 AM

Okay, explain this:

WinXP on a 14GB partiton, primary or course. Installs, boots and runs perfectly. No probs. Then I think, now I have XP running fine, lets put linux back on. I do so. WindowsXP now takes twice as long to boot:

it was 42s for WIn98SE
it was 23s for WinXP
now 40s for WinXP
(Yes i timed it)

WindowsXP starts to shut down, but doesn't finish wihin the hour.

I am going to try using a second HDD (I'll get a cheap 10-15GB one).

XWRed1 · 12-24-01, 09:00 PM

Ok, I can't explain it. All I can say is that Linux doesn't touch any data on the Windows partitions unless you tell it, and the same should be the case for WinXP.

What was the state of the partitions that now hold Linux, back when XP was the only thing on the machine? Were they unallocated space? Partitioned, but not formatted with a filesystem?

David · 12-25-01, 06:01 AM

It was unpartitioned space, then two logical drives.

XWRed1 · 12-26-01, 08:13 PM

Well, maybe WinXP sees more partitions on the drive, and spends some time mapping them out or something like that.

David · 12-27-01, 10:11 AM

I think I'll just get a second HD and use one of those tray thingies.

chaim79 · 12-27-01, 03:54 PM

another option is the trios hard drive selector. you can have 3 different selections for harddrives all button activated by a unit that fits in a 5 1/2 drive bay.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?sku=R75-1000

they even have a rebate for it!

DarkArctic · 12-27-01, 06:12 PM

Then again Linux is Microsoft's greatest fear. I wouldn't be suprised if M$ put in some evil code against Linux. And don't any of you deny it, they would stoop that low.

Anyways....good luck!

That reminds my, I need another hard drive for my Linux too.

-DarkArctic

TJ9 · 01-04-02, 06:02 PM

Thanks for the advice and sorry it took me so long to get back on this.

Any suggestions for getting the WineX ,Mandrake, or other OS?

XWRed1 · 01-04-02, 08:56 PM

Get WineX if you think you need it. Get Mandrake if you think it has the stuff you want. Get an alt OS if you're dissatisfied with your current one.

PhoenixMDM · 01-05-02, 09:59 AM

I know how to solve all three! Get mandrake gaming ed.: Mandrake has alot of stuff, is an alt OS, and that version comes with 3 months of WineX!

nil_esh · 01-07-02, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by penguinfreak
I think I'll just get a second HD and use one of those tray thingies.

A seperate hard drive for Linux is a good idea, I wouldn't do it any other way. It might just solve your boot problems. Also, it makes any future reconfigurations much easier. If boot problems still occur try disabling the Linux HD in BIOS and seeing what happens.

David · 01-08-02, 02:00 PM

woohoo! I just boot Linux from a floppy - no probs. QUite fast as well.

nil_esh · 01-09-02, 02:46 AM

So dual-booting was slowing you down?

David · 01-09-02, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by nil_esh
So dual-booting was slowing you down?

Had a few random windows reboots and the shutdown took AGES. It also took it twice as long to boot. Linux ran fine tho - uninhibited by windoze

12-21-01, 10:14 AM	Thread Starter #1
TJ9 Member Join Date: May 2001	Other OSes I am thinking of getting Windows XP and duel booting Win98 for my old programs which won't run under WinXP. then I think why not go with Linux? So here is question 1: Is it possible to get a version of Unix or Linux tht can run games like Dungeon Keeper and Rune? Question 2:I am also looking at getting Darwin for my computer. Darwin is a version of the Mac OS that can run on a PC. does anybody know what kind of programs it can run? question 3: Does anybody have a favorite OS that they think would work nice for this.
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12-21-01, 12:37 PM	#2
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	1) You can throw Wine, which lets you run (with varying degrees of success) Win32 apps on any Linux distro. Mandrake sells a Gaming Edition that comes with it preinstalled and setup. I feel that I must point out that Rune happens to have a native Linux port made by these people. 2) Last I saw, Darwin x86 only works on 440BX chipsets, and has super limited hardware support.
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12-21-01, 02:23 PM	#3
PolyPill Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Minnesota	There's also that Mandrake gaming edition or what ever it's called. I haven't used it or heard of how well it works, but it might be worth a try __________________ "Give me a chance to shine and I'll blind the world" - Transplants GNU/Linux Debian Sid Dell Latitude c640 2ghz 512mb DDR
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12-23-01, 09:35 AM	#4
David Forums Super Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Americans and making pretty colours in a drybox in St Andrews	I don't think WinXP and Linux like to coexist peacefully. WinXP Pro was running fine on my PC until I installed linux again. It worked fine with 98SE but now XP won't shutdown properly. I had to reinstall it ;-( __________________ David J. Nelson MChem(Edin) PhD(Strath) AMRSC [Academia Profile] OC Forums Super Moderator // Overclockers.com Editor The Workhorse: [Lenovo W510] Intel Core i7-720QM / 8 GB DDR3 / nVidia Quadro FX880M / Crucial M4 256 GB SSD / Windows 7 The HTPC/Server: AMD Phenom X4 9650 / 6 GB DDR2 / nVidia 8300 / 5 TB of HDDs / Antec Solo II Case / Windows 7 The Gaming Rig: AMD Llano A6-3650 / 4 GB DDR3 / nVidia GTX260 / 2x 500 GB HDD in RAID0 / Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case / Windows 7 The Benchmarking Setup: Various LGA775 chips / Asus Rampage Formula / 2 GB OCZ 1066 MHz DDR2 / nVidia Quadro NVS 285 / 320 GB HDD / Windows 7 My research fellowship is eating all my time, so I may be slow to reply to emails and private messages.
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12-23-01, 02:37 PM	#5
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	They can coexist fine, you just don't know what you're doing
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12-24-01, 04:18 AM	#6
David Forums Super Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Americans and making pretty colours in a drybox in St Andrews	Okay, explain this: WinXP on a 14GB partiton, primary or course. Installs, boots and runs perfectly. No probs. Then I think, now I have XP running fine, lets put linux back on. I do so. WindowsXP now takes twice as long to boot: it was 42s for WIn98SE it was 23s for WinXP now 40s for WinXP (Yes i timed it) WindowsXP starts to shut down, but doesn't finish wihin the hour. I am going to try using a second HDD (I'll get a cheap 10-15GB one). __________________ David J. Nelson MChem(Edin) PhD(Strath) AMRSC [Academia Profile] OC Forums Super Moderator // Overclockers.com Editor The Workhorse: [Lenovo W510] Intel Core i7-720QM / 8 GB DDR3 / nVidia Quadro FX880M / Crucial M4 256 GB SSD / Windows 7 The HTPC/Server: AMD Phenom X4 9650 / 6 GB DDR2 / nVidia 8300 / 5 TB of HDDs / Antec Solo II Case / Windows 7 The Gaming Rig: AMD Llano A6-3650 / 4 GB DDR3 / nVidia GTX260 / 2x 500 GB HDD in RAID0 / Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case / Windows 7 The Benchmarking Setup: Various LGA775 chips / Asus Rampage Formula / 2 GB OCZ 1066 MHz DDR2 / nVidia Quadro NVS 285 / 320 GB HDD / Windows 7 My research fellowship is eating all my time, so I may be slow to reply to emails and private messages.
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12-24-01, 09:00 PM	#7
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	Ok, I can't explain it. All I can say is that Linux doesn't touch any data on the Windows partitions unless you tell it, and the same should be the case for WinXP. What was the state of the partitions that now hold Linux, back when XP was the only thing on the machine? Were they unallocated space? Partitioned, but not formatted with a filesystem?
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12-25-01, 06:01 AM	#8
David Forums Super Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Americans and making pretty colours in a drybox in St Andrews	It was unpartitioned space, then two logical drives. __________________ David J. Nelson MChem(Edin) PhD(Strath) AMRSC [Academia Profile] OC Forums Super Moderator // Overclockers.com Editor The Workhorse: [Lenovo W510] Intel Core i7-720QM / 8 GB DDR3 / nVidia Quadro FX880M / Crucial M4 256 GB SSD / Windows 7 The HTPC/Server: AMD Phenom X4 9650 / 6 GB DDR2 / nVidia 8300 / 5 TB of HDDs / Antec Solo II Case / Windows 7 The Gaming Rig: AMD Llano A6-3650 / 4 GB DDR3 / nVidia GTX260 / 2x 500 GB HDD in RAID0 / Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case / Windows 7 The Benchmarking Setup: Various LGA775 chips / Asus Rampage Formula / 2 GB OCZ 1066 MHz DDR2 / nVidia Quadro NVS 285 / 320 GB HDD / Windows 7 My research fellowship is eating all my time, so I may be slow to reply to emails and private messages.
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12-26-01, 08:13 PM	#9
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	Well, maybe WinXP sees more partitions on the drive, and spends some time mapping them out or something like that.
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12-27-01, 10:11 AM	#10
David Forums Super Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Americans and making pretty colours in a drybox in St Andrews	I think I'll just get a second HD and use one of those tray thingies. __________________ David J. Nelson MChem(Edin) PhD(Strath) AMRSC [Academia Profile] OC Forums Super Moderator // Overclockers.com Editor The Workhorse: [Lenovo W510] Intel Core i7-720QM / 8 GB DDR3 / nVidia Quadro FX880M / Crucial M4 256 GB SSD / Windows 7 The HTPC/Server: AMD Phenom X4 9650 / 6 GB DDR2 / nVidia 8300 / 5 TB of HDDs / Antec Solo II Case / Windows 7 The Gaming Rig: AMD Llano A6-3650 / 4 GB DDR3 / nVidia GTX260 / 2x 500 GB HDD in RAID0 / Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case / Windows 7 The Benchmarking Setup: Various LGA775 chips / Asus Rampage Formula / 2 GB OCZ 1066 MHz DDR2 / nVidia Quadro NVS 285 / 320 GB HDD / Windows 7 My research fellowship is eating all my time, so I may be slow to reply to emails and private messages.
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12-27-01, 03:54 PM	#11
chaim79 Registered Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: S/W Wisconsin	another option is the trios hard drive selector. you can have 3 different selections for harddrives all button activated by a unit that fits in a 5 1/2 drive bay. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?sku=R75-1000 they even have a rebate for it!
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12-27-01, 06:12 PM	#12
DarkArctic Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada	Then again Linux is Microsoft's greatest fear. I wouldn't be suprised if M$ put in some evil code against Linux. And don't any of you deny it, they would stoop that low. Anyways....good luck! That reminds my, I need another hard drive for my Linux too. -DarkArctic __________________ "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had." -Linus Torvalds My Heatware \| Overclockers.com Front Page \| Folding for Team 32 \| You Are Here
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01-04-02, 06:02 PM	Thread Starter #13
TJ9 Member Join Date: May 2001	Thanks for the advice and sorry it took me so long to get back on this. Any suggestions for getting the WineX ,Mandrake, or other OS?
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01-04-02, 08:56 PM	#14
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	Get WineX if you think you need it. Get Mandrake if you think it has the stuff you want. Get an alt OS if you're dissatisfied with your current one.
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01-05-02, 09:59 AM	#15
PhoenixMDM Piano Man Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Candia, NH	I know how to solve all three! Get mandrake gaming ed.: Mandrake has alot of stuff, is an alt OS, and that version comes with 3 months of WineX!
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01-08-02, 02:00 PM	#17
David Forums Super Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Americans and making pretty colours in a drybox in St Andrews	woohoo! I just boot Linux from a floppy - no probs. QUite fast as well. __________________ David J. Nelson MChem(Edin) PhD(Strath) AMRSC [Academia Profile] OC Forums Super Moderator // Overclockers.com Editor The Workhorse: [Lenovo W510] Intel Core i7-720QM / 8 GB DDR3 / nVidia Quadro FX880M / Crucial M4 256 GB SSD / Windows 7 The HTPC/Server: AMD Phenom X4 9650 / 6 GB DDR2 / nVidia 8300 / 5 TB of HDDs / Antec Solo II Case / Windows 7 The Gaming Rig: AMD Llano A6-3650 / 4 GB DDR3 / nVidia GTX260 / 2x 500 GB HDD in RAID0 / Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case / Windows 7 The Benchmarking Setup: Various LGA775 chips / Asus Rampage Formula / 2 GB OCZ 1066 MHz DDR2 / nVidia Quadro NVS 285 / 320 GB HDD / Windows 7 My research fellowship is eating all my time, so I may be slow to reply to emails and private messages.
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01-09-02, 02:46 AM	#18
nil_esh Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa, FL	So dual-booting was slowing you down?
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