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windwithme · 11-11-07, 03:49 AM

Left-45nm QX9650
Right-45nm E8500
E8500 333X9.5=>3.16G 6MB

DRAM: CORSAIR TWIN3X2048-1800C7DF
1800 CL7 7-7-20

VGA: ELSA 8800GT 512MB

MB: ASUS P5K3-DELUXE

windwithme · 11-11-07, 03:51 AM

CPU:INTEL Core 2 Duo E8500
MB: ASUS P5K3-DELUXE
DRAM:CORSAIR TWIN3X2048-1800C7DF
VGA:ELSA 8800GT 512MB
HD:Seagate 7200.10 320G
POWER:Corsair HX520W Modular Power Supply
Cooler:Thermaltake V1

Default:333X9.5

4000Mhz SP2004

1.472V 491X9=>4419Mhz
Dual Super PI 32M

VGA
8800GT 600/1800
3DMARK2003

3DMARK2005

3DMARK2006

windwithme · 11-11-07, 03:51 AM

DRAM
DDR3 1800 CL7 6-5-20 1T 1.85V
Dual SP2004 Blend mode runs steady

DDR3 2000 CL8 7-6-20 2T 1.90V
SuperPI 32M&EVEREST

ASUS AI SUITE CPU Temp&EVEREST CPU L2 Cache Error...

495X9.5=>4702Mhz 1.664V
DDR3 1980 CL8 7-6-20 2T
SuperPI 1M: 9.890s
COUMARK: 675

windwithme Next Review
DFI LanParty DK P35

Thermaltake Duorb

CORSAIR VX450W POWER SUPPY

inkfx · 11-11-07, 03:51 AM

Can't wait to see the screen shots on that. I always like your reviews wind.

edit - you beat me.

ChinStrap · 11-11-07, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inkfx

Can't wait to see the screen shots on that. I always like your reviews wind.

edit - you beat me.

man, no doubt! Great pictures!

El<(')>Maxi · 11-11-07, 04:03 AM

Nice review wind, thanks!

redrumy3 · 11-11-07, 04:04 AM

thats awesome great review

Kuroimaho · 11-11-07, 04:09 AM

Wow, really good results.
Hmm, so which is better Dual 4.5+ or 4G quad...

Tyranos · 11-11-07, 04:10 AM

The lower 45nm cpu's will be a better choice when ddr3 doesn't cost your soul.

How is that air cooler getting such a low temperature? 3c? 22c? Really bad software temp reading?

inkfx · 11-11-07, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyranos

How is that air cooler getting such a low temperature? 3c? 22c? Really bad software temp reading?

I'd say that is definitely the case. Motherboard software is always kind of iffy anyway.

aja · 11-11-07, 04:11 AM

Thats great! Thanks for sharing!!!

Damn, lucky bugger

Hipcrostino · 11-11-07, 06:02 AM

these things look insane. and now i have water cooling!! can't wait to upgrade to 45nm, ddr3! (price has to be good first though)

aja · 11-11-07, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hipcrostino

(DDR3 price has to be good first though)

That wont happen for quite a while...

They can sell large volumes of DDR2 or overpriced DDR3 - there is no need to drop the price...

xilix · 11-11-07, 08:50 AM

Dude 4.7 on air is just nuts. I want a Quad that will get to 4+Ghz 24/7 on air. That would rule.

dominick32 · 11-11-07, 10:57 AM

I think you just sold me on my January upgrade.
Thanks for the info bud.

ryanmartini · 11-11-07, 01:28 PM

looks like im going with a 2160 to hold me over...

Im waiting it out for one of those!

satandole666 · 11-11-07, 01:46 PM

Wow.

4.7ghz on air means possibly 5ghz on water?

Something seems too good to be true.

Evilsizer · 11-11-07, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satandole666

Wow.

4.7ghz on air means possibly 5ghz on water?

Something seems too good to be true.

to good to be true he oced a dual... my est is that the new 45nm dual's are 40-50watt tdp vs 45nm quads at 75watts. now the question for those out there wanting a faster rig. is not quad vs dual but what games do you play. as pointed out in another thread a q6600 at stock show 5-7FPS increase vs E6750. now even oced the E6750 beats the Q66 in ocing by 200mhz in that review. as i was tring to point out if your playing older games that were writen to use 2cores better then 4. Stick with the newer dual's lower TDP = higher oc.

just remember though intel promised 4ghz cpus, looks like they are here, well in sense.. i just wonder if a new 45nm dually would be able to do 4ghz on stock vcore...

satandole666 · 11-11-07, 05:43 PM

I have no clue what you are talking about. Heh...

I was just amazed at the prospect that I might be able to hit 5ghz without extreme cooling.

clo007 · 11-12-07, 01:13 AM

unlock that 8800gt's shader and OC it some more.

JCLW · 11-13-07, 10:57 PM

Nice!

Any chance of a Cinebench r10 at both stock and max o/c?

windwithme · 11-14-07, 10:30 AM

E8500&QX9650

E8500
531X8=>4248Mhz
Dual Super PI 32M

497X9.5=>4722Mhz on air cooler

next review...
MSI GX600

or
DFI LanParty DK P35

Joeteck · 11-14-07, 10:40 AM

Does anyone know what the price is going to be for the E8500?

Brolloks · 11-14-07, 10:55 AM

When exactly are these 45nm C2D's to hit the market?

Clockwork_Apple · 11-14-07, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeteck

Does anyone know what the price is going to be for the E8500?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brolloks

When exactly are these 45nm C2D's to hit the market?

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=531883

Evilsizer · 11-14-07, 11:54 AM

$296
http://www.google.com/product_url?q=...hl=en&sa=title
$328
http://www.google.com/product_url?q=...hl=en&sa=title

ghost_recon88 · 11-14-07, 12:30 PM

Hey I'm sure these questions have been asked a lot, but I'm too lazy to look them up. I'm gonna be building a quad-core rig soon, and can get a BNIB Q6600 G0 stepping for $250 shipped. However I see the new 45nm CPUs are coming out soon. As far as specs go, it appears each core has 3MB of L2 versus 2MB on the current quad-cores, and that they support SSE4 compared to only SSE3 on the current quads. Also their FSB is 1333MHz compared to 1066MHz. Other than the extra 1MB of L2 per core, SSE4 instructions, and increased FSB, are there any other changes between the current quad-cores and the ones coming out Q1 2008?

hUMANbEATbOX · 11-14-07, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost_recon88

Hey I'm sure these questions have been asked a lot, but I'm too lazy to look them up. I'm gonna be building a quad-core rig soon, and can get a BNIB Q6600 G0 stepping for $250 shipped. However I see the new 45nm CPUs are coming out soon. As far as specs go, it appears each core has 3MB of L2 versus 2MB on the current quad-cores, and that they support SSE4 compared to only SSE3 on the current quads. Also their FSB is 1333MHz compared to 1066MHz. Other than the extra 1MB of L2 per core, SSE4 instructions, and increased FSB, are there any other changes between the current quad-cores and the ones coming out Q1 2008?

The most important change is the one you mentioned but glossed over.

65nm down to 45nm. Seems to mean much better clocks.

Also, you can't say that each cpu gets an extra 1mb of cache. The way these work it that 2 cores will share 6mb of cache. If one of the cores needs the full 6mb, and the other one is idle, it will have access to the full amount. The 12mb is split between the 2 pairs of cores, just like in the C2Q's.

ghost_recon88 · 11-14-07, 12:55 PM

Gotcha. Yea I didn't mention the 45nm shrink, but I thought that was obvious

The current quad-cores share 4MB of L2 between 2 cores then? I can oc to 1333MHz FSB easily with a Q6600 so that doesn't bother me. SSE4 vs. SSE3, not sure if that will make that much of a difference in games or not. L2? Hmm time will tell if it makes that much of a difference. Then as far as overclocking goes, how does the Q6600 do on air?

/end of playing devils advocate

deathman20 · 11-14-07, 01:50 PM

Wow....

Not sure what I'll be going for but the Dual cores doo look very nice

Since really only a few games are using Quads currently and defiantly not to there full advantage

11-11-07, 03:49 AM	#1
windwithme Member Join Date: Jan 2005	New 45nm CPU First Look-Intel C2D E8500 4.7G On Air Cooler Left-45nm QX9650 Right-45nm E8500 E8500 333X9.5=>3.16G 6MB DRAM: CORSAIR TWIN3X2048-1800C7DF 1800 CL7 7-7-20 VGA: ELSA 8800GT 512MB MB: ASUS P5K3-DELUXE

11-11-07, 03:51 AM	#4
inkfx Benching Team Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas	Can't wait to see the screen shots on that. I always like your reviews wind. edit - you beat me. __________________ \| Dell Studio17 Laptop \| \| T9300 @ 2.5Ghz - ATI 3850 - 3GB RAM - 250GB HDD - 17" (1920x1200) Glossy widescreen \| Windows 7 64-bit \|

11-11-07, 04:03 AM	#6
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11-11-07, 04:10 AM	#9
Tyranos Member Join Date: Jul 2001	The lower 45nm cpu's will be a better choice when ddr3 doesn't cost your soul. How is that air cooler getting such a low temperature? 3c? 22c? Really bad software temp reading? __________________ Quad Q6700, 8800Ultra, 4gb Mushkin DDR2, GA-G31MX-S2 Heatware

11-11-07, 04:11 AM	#11
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11-11-07, 06:02 AM	#12
Hipcrostino Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia	these things look insane. and now i have water cooling!! can't wait to upgrade to 45nm, ddr3! (price has to be good first though) __________________ E8400 E0 @ 500x8 (1.216v)Water cooled Asus Striker II NSE 2x1Gb Gskill CL9-9-9-24 DDR3 1333 2x250GB ST3250310AS raid0 Galaxy GTX285 @ stock (MCW60 cooled) Corsair 750W PSU 2x 22" LCD monitors Updated 06/03/09 (dd/mm/yy)

11-11-07, 08:50 AM	#14
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11-11-07, 10:57 AM	#15
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11-11-07, 01:28 PM	#16
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11-11-07, 01:46 PM	#17
satandole666 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Columbus, OH	Wow. 4.7ghz on air means possibly 5ghz on water? Something seems too good to be true.

11-11-07, 05:43 PM	#19
satandole666 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Columbus, OH	I have no clue what you are talking about. Heh... I was just amazed at the prospect that I might be able to hit 5ghz without extreme cooling.

11-12-07, 01:13 AM	#20
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11-13-07, 10:57 PM	#21
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11-14-07, 10:30 AM	#22
windwithme Member Join Date: Jan 2005	E8500&QX9650 E8500 531X8=>4248Mhz Dual Super PI 32M 497X9.5=>4722Mhz on air cooler next review... MSI GX600 or DFI LanParty DK P35

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11-14-07, 10:55 AM	#24
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11-14-07, 11:54 AM	#26
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11-14-07, 12:30 PM	#27
ghost_recon88 Digital Jedi Master Benching Team Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Michigan	Hey I'm sure these questions have been asked a lot, but I'm too lazy to look them up. I'm gonna be building a quad-core rig soon, and can get a BNIB Q6600 G0 stepping for $250 shipped. However I see the new 45nm CPUs are coming out soon. As far as specs go, it appears each core has 3MB of L2 versus 2MB on the current quad-cores, and that they support SSE4 compared to only SSE3 on the current quads. Also their FSB is 1333MHz compared to 1066MHz. Other than the extra 1MB of L2 per core, SSE4 instructions, and increased FSB, are there any other changes between the current quad-cores and the ones coming out Q1 2008? __________________ Lenovo U330 \| 13.3" WLED \| P7350 \| 4GB DDR3 \| ATI HD 3450/X4500HD \| 250GB HDD \| DVD-RW \| Win 7 Pro x64 Heatware

11-14-07, 12:55 PM	#29
ghost_recon88 Digital Jedi Master Benching Team Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Michigan	Gotcha. Yea I didn't mention the 45nm shrink, but I thought that was obvious The current quad-cores share 4MB of L2 between 2 cores then? I can oc to 1333MHz FSB easily with a Q6600 so that doesn't bother me. SSE4 vs. SSE3, not sure if that will make that much of a difference in games or not. L2? Hmm time will tell if it makes that much of a difference. Then as far as overclocking goes, how does the Q6600 do on air? /end of playing devils advocate __________________ Lenovo U330 \| 13.3" WLED \| P7350 \| 4GB DDR3 \| ATI HD 3450/X4500HD \| 250GB HDD \| DVD-RW \| Win 7 Pro x64 Heatware

11-14-07, 01:50 PM	#30
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