[Zenoth]

Hey guys,

Finally, Dual-Core 45nm technology is officially available since a few days already, and for over-clocking those baddies are the days to come! I was inspired by ghost_recon88's post in the currently popular E8400 thread, and so I decided to start a "proper" thread for reports on over-clocking and the results you guys come up with, either with your lovely E8400 or E8500. The reports should be written in the following format (note that all images will be welcome, as far as it concerns your OC attempts hehe!):

CPU:
ES/Retail: 
Batch #:
Ship/Packaging Date:
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed):
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed):
Motherboard:
BIOS: 
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)):
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution:
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s):
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Additional Comment(s):

The "Extra"'s are just that, extra information you could add. And the format above is modifiable as you see fit. You want to remove, add or change one of them or all of them? Go ahead and do it, but make sure that your information is as accurate and corroborative as possible for your own sake and for everyone else's comparison efficiency's sake. I myself will either edit or post later when I finish building my system and come up with my first over-clocking results. My own E8400 should be here by tomorrow after noon if everything goes well (wish me luck!).

Enjoy!

[Gregory_WE]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q745A356
Ship/Packaging Date: 12/27/07
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.125V / 1.3V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.05 GHz (24/7)
Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro
BIOS: 16B09
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5-5-5-15
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.05V
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: ZeroTherm Nirvana
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): I can go higher with higher voltages, around 4.2 GHz seems to be a sweet spot. Around that zone, VCore needs to go up exponentially for Prime stability. I can go a fair amount higher and Prime for 20 minutes, but not full 8 hours.

[Brolloks]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #:Q746A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/01/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.112 V/1.488 V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.34 GHz 24/7 at 1.504 volts, 4.4 GHz Bench (super pi 1m stable)
Motherboard:Asus P5E
BIOS: 14 beta

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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): Cruscial Ballistix PC2-8500 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.2 V (940 MHz)
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Water cooling
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): Artic MX-2 paste
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Additional Comment(s):

[ghost_recon88]

What I'm currently 10 hour Orthos stable at, I'm gonna try for higher tonight.

CPU: E8400 "C0"
ES/Retail: retail
Batch #: Q746A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage: 1.44 volts
Frequency: 4230MHz 24/7 4500MHz 3DMark06 stable
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E
BIOS: 16 beta 01
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5-5-5-15 (default for 1000MHz, haven't tried tighter yet)
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.1 volts
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: watercooling
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): The CPU and heatsink are both lapped. RAM is G-Skill DDR2-8000.

[sno.lcn]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q747A374
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/11/08
Voltage: 1.424
Frequency: 4.2ghz Highest so far is 5.1ghz.
Motherboard: Foxconn Mars
BIOS:
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 1:1 @ 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.2v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Thermalright Ultra 120
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): VID: 1.1125v.
Folding 24/7 @ 4.1ghz

[jmorgan]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q745A356
Ship/Packaging Date: 12/27/07
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.376v
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4275mhz booted 4700, 1m pi 4650
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula
BIOS: 0907
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.14
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Water cooling in sig
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s):MX-2
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Additional Comment(s): over 12 hours orthos stable

[swoyekr.]

<<Reserved>>

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q7A6A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01.04.08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed):Stock for now
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 3.0Ghz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
BIOS:
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)):1.8v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s):
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Additional Comment(s):

[IInvader]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #:Q740A555T
Ship/Packaging Date: 12/20/07
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.128 V/1.44 V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.275 GHz
Motherboard:Asus P5K-Deluxe
BIOS: 705

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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): Crucial 10th Anniv. PC2-5300 4-4-4-15
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.1 V (950 MHz)
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Ultra120 Extreme
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): Tuniq TX-2 paste
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Additional Comment(s): So far Prime95 stable at 4275 MHz. Still testing for 24/7 useage.

[gixxer420]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q746A519
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/11/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 0.9750 vid / 1.296 cpu-z
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4203 still ocing
Motherboard: Abit IP35
BIOS:

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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)):
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.10
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 w/ 2 yates
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s):

[Albuquerque]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q746R381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.4125
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4,338Mhz (482 x 9)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
BIOS: F2
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4 x 1Gb Crucial Ballistix PC6400 4-4-4-10 964Mhz
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.1v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Apogee GT, ViaAqua 1300, Dual Rad, 2 x 120mm Sanyo Denki Sun-ACE
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): Arctic Ceramique
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Additional Comment(s): w00t!

[tjh566]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q746A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.44V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.32ghz (480x9)
Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro
BIOS:
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.2v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Phase Cooled
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): Dissappointed with the phase results of this chip, maybe I was expecting too much, 4.64ghz superpi 1m Stable (9.625s), 4.5ghz stable with 1.55v, wanted to keep it under 1.45v for daily use for 4.32ghz is the daily clock was hoping for 4.5+ guess its time to sell this and buy an E8500

EDIT: Last night I was in a hurry overclocking, didnt have time for thebasics, tonight Im realising my ram isnt so stable above 530 or so, So im gonna get some new ram and see what happens. Might have some more speed in her yet

[omniskillz]

Originally Posted by tjh566

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q746A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.44V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.32ghz (480x9)
Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro
BIOS:
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.2v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Phase Cooled
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): Dissappointed with the phase results of this chip, maybe I was expecting too much, 4.64ghz superpi 1m Stable (9.625s), 4.5ghz stable with 1.55v, wanted to keep it under 1.45v for daily use for 4.32ghz is the daily clock was hoping for 4.5+ guess its time to sell this and buy an E8500

what the highest fsb u can get with the multiplyer lowered?

[dragonhunter]

Originally Posted by tjh566

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q746A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.44V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.32ghz (480x9)
Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro
BIOS:
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.2v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Phase Cooled
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): Dissappointed with the phase results of this chip, maybe I was expecting too much, 4.64ghz superpi 1m Stable (9.625s), 4.5ghz stable with 1.55v, wanted to keep it under 1.45v for daily use for 4.32ghz is the daily clock was hoping for 4.5+ guess its time to sell this and buy an E8500

Same here

[mysterfix]

I'm not done testing yet so this OC may go up if I decide to run more voltage .

CPU: E8400 "C0"
ES/Retail: retail
Batch #: Q746A381
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage: 1.112/1.45
Frequency: 4.2ghz 24/7
Motherboard: Gigabyte P35-DQ6
BIOS: F7e
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): Cruscial Ballistix PC2-6400 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.1 volts
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Water (In sig)
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5

[ghost_recon88]

Originally Posted by tjh566

Additional Comment(s): Dissappointed with the phase results of this chip,

Apparently this chip is immune to phase, I knew it had the force

[Omsion]

Updated 2/8
Updated 2/9

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q744A760
Ship/Packaging Date: 1/11/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): Don't remember/1.2V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 3.6 (450x8)
Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro
BIOS: v14
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): Stock
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): Stock
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Scythe Ninja
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): IC7
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Additional Comment(s):
Just got it. Won't get it in something until I get my mobo in, so OC news next week. This will pop right into an IP35, right? If not...we're going to have issues

2/8 Update
I'm another one with stuck temps until load. Coretemp has mine at 45°C consistently. At stock, under Prime95, I get load temps of ~46/51. Pretty nice. Except it doesn't stay that way .

Anyway, was going to test the limits of my memory at stock timings, but couldn't get memtest to boot for some reason, so I went with 450FSB as a reasonable OC for my ramchips. Stock (auto) vcore was enought at 7x multi (3150). 8x multi wouldn't boot to windows at auto stock, so raised to 1.275 (vdroops to 1.17 or so) and booted. Failed prime95 badly, raised vcore to 1.325 (1.22 vdroop - current setting). Now running for >1.5 hours and looking good. Except for load temps. 57/61 in Coretemp. That's a 10°C rise over temps at stock . Of course, we all know the temp sensors are having issues, but still.

Now having that info in mind...goal is to get to 4050 with a vcore below 1.275 drooped. Should be doable, if others with my batch are any indication

Still don't like the temps.

2/9 Update
Tried to push upwards today, so went to 9x430. Was not prime stable at 1.325 BIOS. Was not stable 1.375 BIOS. Was stable at 1.405 (1.29/1.30 with droop). Temps shot up to 61/65. Essentially I'm will not vcore any higher until I can get accuarate temp readings (or at least get confirmation my load temps are being reported correctly, if they are that high).

So now 450x8 at 1.305 in BIOS (1.2 with droop) and probably staying that way until Abit releases a new official BIOS. Or until I get around to flashing to 16b9. I really don't like those temps.

[ghost_recon88]

Originally Posted by Omsion

This will pop right into an IP35, right? If not...we're going to have issues [/COLOR]

Yep it will pop right in, however update the BIOS shortly after for full compatibility .

[th3]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q748A142
Ship/Packaging Date: 1/09/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.225 / 1.45
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4.2
Motherboard: GA-X38-DS5
BIOS: F5
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-4 (1:1, 934Mhz)
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.25v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Low end water
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): Very high VID! Conroes with high VID often didnt respond well to vcore increase, looks like thats true also for 45nm, but i only played with it for 30-40 minutes so far and dont have much more time for now, later again.
Edit 3: No way to get it prime stable at 4.2 with less than 1.425v. Load temps are 52/52.

EDIT 4: Need 1.45v now, and corrected a typo, vdimm is 2.25v (obviously for some, would be hard to run these timings on only 2.15). I dont know whats going on with the vCore, sometimes temps are like 56 and sometimes around same as i had on 1.425v. Maybe i need to try activating the voltage damper for a few days, this could be a board problem.
Max OC tested so far: 9x480 = 4.32GHz, vcore 1.525.

[stdu007]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q745A525
Ship/Packaging Date: 12/20/07
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed):1.225/1.42
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed):4.1 (513x8)
Motherboard: - abit - IX38 Quad Gt
BIOS: 12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5/4/4/12 (1:1, 1056 Mhz)
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)):2.30
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: D -Tek Fusion
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s):as5
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Additional Comment(s):

[HousERaT]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q743A748
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/04/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.125/1.40
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 4500Mhz
Motherboard: Maximus Formula
BIOS: 0907
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.22
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: TRUE
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): MX-2
*Extra* VID: 1.0375
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Additional Comment(s): Still haven't maxed this thing out yet.

[deathman20]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q743A756
Ship/Packaging Date: 12/27/07
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.06V CPU-z(1.2V Bios)/1.21V CPU-z (1.37V Bios)
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed):4050Mhz+ (still going)
Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro
BIOS: Beta 16.04

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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5-5-5-12-42 (Currently only for testing)
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.2V (Currently only for testing)
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Thermalright 120 Extreme w/ 120mm Sthyce Fan
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): MX-2
*Extra* VID: 0.975

Just got it, not sure what the temps are on it since with Core Temp 0.96.1 it reads 42C and with 0.95.4 it reads 37C constant :/ Guess thats Vista 64-bit working right there hehe or the bios which ever it is, wait wait I see 43C spiking on the core at stock speed. Not sure about the temps though its cold in here 64F currently so I should be safe to play with the OC, going to crank her up here in a sec.

Hey HousERat, look at that batch numbers very close to each other only 8 away.

Edit: Updated 1-24-08 7:16PM
Still running got it up to 4.05Ghz with some playing on the memory settings since thats what killed me before. CoreTemp finally started giving me readings at 3.6Ghz with 1.3V set bios I was getting 44-48C and now with 4.05Ghz with 1.37V set bios im getting much closer temps at 51-53C. I like it Warmer than my other chip but also much faster so what can I complain about I'll do prime testing here over night if it works at these settings, then work on it from there since I want to game a bit tonight

[Krakn]

CPU: e8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #:Q740A523
Ship/Packaging Date:12/27/2007
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed):1.225/1.40
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed):3.8GHz
Motherboard:Gigabyte ABit IP35-E
BIOS: beta 16 version 1
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5-5-5-12
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)):
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution:Artic Cooler 7
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s):AS5
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Additional Comment(s):

My Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R went belly up, so I traded it out for the ABit IP35-E with the latest beta bios. Running at 3.8GHz so far, having had a lot of time to play with the settings, hopefully I can hit 4GHz again.

[chawks2]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #:Q745A740
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/11/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.112 V/1.375 V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 3.6 GHz 24/7 at 1.28 volts, 3.92 GHz Bench (super pi 1m stable - 11.675)
Motherboard:ASUS P5K64WS
BIOS: 0504

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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): OCZ Reaper DDR3 6-5-5-20 7-7-7-21
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 1.9 V (1020 MHz)2.2 V (1140 MHz)
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: STOCK
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s):Only the beginning.. Did some more testing and am bummed the P5K64 WS has BIOS CPU voltage issues. I have the voltage set to 1.7 in the BIOS, but it registers in the AI suite as 1.4320. This means I need to wait for a BIOS update. I have been attempting to get 3.9 stable on 1.43 and it has proven difficult. ASUS update your BIOS!!

[Shiggity]

Originally Posted by chawks2

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #:Q745A740
Ship/Packaging Date: 01/11/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.112 V/1.375 V
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 3.6 GHz 24/7 at 1.375 volts, 3.84 GHz Bench (super pi 1m stable)
Motherboard:ASUS P5K64WS
BIOS: 0504

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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): OCZ Reaper DDR3 6-5-5-20
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 1.9 V (1020 MHz)
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: STOCK
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s):Only the beginning..

Oh snap, how is that DDR3 memory performing?

[tuskenraider]

CPU: E8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #: Q746A514
Ship/Packaging Date: 1/11/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed): 1.225V/1.37
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed): 3.6ghz/4.0ghz
Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro
BIOS: 14
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 5-5-5-15
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)): 2.1 V
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution: Ninja Rev. B
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): Idles 44C with cooling in sig according to Everest. 68C Max in Orthos. Base of my heatsink feels nowhere near this temp..........

[Shell]

Oh my god...

I'm trading my Q6600(G0) for one of these!
Shure 3GHz is fun, but 4GHz is crazy fun!
Mabe I'll wait... but It's going to be hard, soo many gigahertz... GIGAHERTZ!
No, no... I MUST wait... I can't take advantage of such power until a new video card comes out... how long until a better video card? How long until IMC comes to Intel? How long until AMD whips out something good? Is clock for clock performance really greater with this against a 65nm, 4MB C2D?
Soo many questions... the answers must be known...
Mabe I'll just get a 3870X2 with good memory and forget about these amazing processors altogether until there's a new architecture.

/crazy moment

[deathman20]

Shell yes clock per clock performance is better than the 65nm ones You must change now mwahahahah

[Shell]

Originally Posted by deathman20

Shell yes clock per clock performance is better than the 65nm ones You must change now mwahahahah

I will the SECOND someone is willing to trade procs, Mabe I could make use of the classies...
Mail me an 8400, I mail you a q6600... mabe a few $ to go with it...
Hmm, I don't have heat... never needed it until now...
I'm going to see my friends are up on the deal first...

How much of a clock for clock increase is there? If it's =>%5 I'm jumping on it, otherwise I'm better sticking quadcore because more and more games are supporting quad, and most of my programmes already do.

[Jhatfie]

CPU:e8400
ES/Retail: Retail
Batch #:Q746A519
Ship/Packaging Date:1/11/08
Voltage(s) (Stock/OC'ed):1.225/1.325
Frequency(ies) (OC'ed):4.05ghz (450x9)
Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo2-FR
BIOS: 1.6
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*Extra* Memory(ies) (Timing(s)): 4-4-4-12 @ 900mhz
*Extra* Memory(ies) (Voltage(s)):2.1v
*Extra* Third Party Cooling Solution:CoolerMaster Hyper 212
*Extra* Paste(s)/Compound(s)/Other(s): AS5
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Additional Comment(s): 8+ hours Orthos stable at 1.335v and 4.05ghz 48-49C full load temps via coretemp, 4.2ghz 1+ hour Orthos and stable with OCCT at 1.425v. However heat goes up 10c under load with the added .1v to 58-60C load temps.


And before anyone asks, yes I can run 4.2Ghz with my FSB at 525. Memory is at 1050Mhz with 5-5-5-15 timings (might be able to tighten them, have not fooled much). As you can see though the superPi times are .4 seconds slower with the higher memory speeds, yet looser timings and higher FSB. Interesting.

[Hazaro]

Originally Posted by Shell

I will the SECOND someone is willing to trade procs, Mabe I could make use of the classies...
Mail me an 8400, I mail you a q6600... mabe a few $ to go with it...
Hmm, I don't have heat... never needed it until now...
I'm going to see my friends are up on the deal first...

How much of a clock for clock increase is there? If it's =>%5 I'm jumping on it, otherwise I'm better sticking quadcore because more and more games are supporting quad, and most of my programmes already do.

Depends on application, anywhere from 0.10% to 15%, avg is ~5-6% depending on whatever you do. (I've seen 10% listed but, imo I don't think it's that much)