x38 vs p35

seaborn · 02-07-08, 08:26 PM

I am shucking the old and building. Been out of the loop due to the massive WC'ing in my current pc so i never wanted to upgrade. I am trying to save a little money and could find a solid answer to this question. Am I going to suffer much going p35 over x38. I plan to go with an 8800 and 4 gb of ram. Some OC'ing of coarse. Would love some tryed and tested board suggestions. I am getting a headache reading newegg reviews. Thanks everyone.

sk1llz · 02-08-08, 03:13 AM

Only thing you'll be missing is 2x real x16 slots.
But you will still have x16 + x4 slot for CF (p35) (if you choose a p35 with dual x16 slots). The p35 is a greater overclocker thou, think many will agree on that.

So... You won't be missing anything out except real CF performance, so if you're not going dual gpu's, you'll be fine. Thou CF will perform just fine with p35 too.

muddocktor · 02-08-08, 07:01 AM

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. If you aren't going Crossfire, there's no need to go with an X38 board and you can find some good values in P35 boards now.

Two P35 boards I have personal experience with and recommend are the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L and GA-P35-DS3R boards. They overclock very well out the box and no clearance issues with aftermarket hsf mounting. But they do only have 1 physical 16x pci-e slot though, so there is no chance of going with a CF setup later with them if you wanted to try that out.

trey_w · 02-08-08, 12:03 PM

I went with the Abit IP35 Pro board so I could get more out of my Q6600. I had no plans to use CF and then I just bought a NVIDIA card so this board works great for me.

jimmers · 02-08-08, 01:11 PM

Not to hijack the thread, but is there a huge difference in crossfire between the two?

sk1llz · 02-08-08, 05:16 PM

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Not to hijack the thread, but is there a huge difference in crossfire between the two?

I wouldn't think so actually. I've been testing out x4 vs x16 in singlemode only. An 8600GT and an 8800GT. Overall performance loss is maxmimum 10%. So i would think you'll lose the same if using CF.

shadin · 02-08-08, 06:30 PM

If you're going with an 8800, then get a P35 for sure. There's no reason to spend the premium to have the "best" Crossfire capability if you're not even planning on going Crossfire.

I was in the same boat and went with this board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...3&Tpk=p35-t2rs

Absolutely love it.

seaborn · 02-08-08, 09:06 PM

awesome thanks for the replies. helps a bunch. I am going to go with P35 as CF is not something I am interested in. Cheers all.

Evilsizer · 02-08-08, 10:13 PM

shouldnt be much longer and we see P45 showing up, that adds pcie 2.0 to P35.

Shiggity · 02-08-08, 10:23 PM

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shouldnt be much longer and we see P45 showing up, that adds pcie 2.0 to P35.

P45 going to have 2x PCIe 2.0 slots?

Evilsizer · 02-08-08, 10:30 PM

prolly the higher end ones will 16x/4x like p35 is, my current best guess. since some info is still not released about it..

vt420 · 02-09-08, 12:11 AM

personally I have a p35-ds3r and a 3870x2 on order right now, I wont be able to add a 2nd x2, but I didn't plan on have 900 bucks into video card anyway. The p35 boards are significantly cheaper for no performance loss as long as you aren't trying to run 2 vid cards. If you're buying nvidia, don't bother with an x38 board as you still can't run 2 even on the x boards.

Enablingwolf · 02-09-08, 01:15 AM

Did I find a new love in the P35?

I been waiting on my spanking new, P35 (DS3L) to tell me the E2200 sitting @3.3 is wrong. Yes for now stock air... Then I will break out the big cooling stuff. The wide FBS is nice.

02-07-08, 08:26 PM	Thread Starter #1
seaborn Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Usually Earth	x38 vs p35 I am shucking the old and building. Been out of the loop due to the massive WC'ing in my current pc so i never wanted to upgrade. I am trying to save a little money and could find a solid answer to this question. Am I going to suffer much going p35 over x38. I plan to go with an 8800 and 4 gb of ram. Some OC'ing of coarse. Would love some tryed and tested board suggestions. I am getting a headache reading newegg reviews. Thanks everyone. __________________ CPU: i5-2500k Mobo: Asus P8P67 Deluxe GPU: eVGA Geforce GTX 560 Ti RAM: GSkill DDR3 16 Gb ( 4x4gb) PSU: Rosewill X-tream 750w Cooling: Air. Stock for now. Case: Antec Nine Hundred HDD: 1x128gb SSD M4 HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB OS: Windows 7 Professional
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02-08-08, 03:13 AM	#2
sk1llz Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden	Only thing you'll be missing is 2x real x16 slots. But you will still have x16 + x4 slot for CF (p35) (if you choose a p35 with dual x16 slots). The p35 is a greater overclocker thou, think many will agree on that. So... You won't be missing anything out except real CF performance, so if you're not going dual gpu's, you'll be fine. Thou CF will perform just fine with p35 too. __________________ • Zotac GTX 560Ti 448 Cores @ 910Mhz//1820Mhz/4100Mhz (72° LOAD) • Core i5 3570K @ 4.7Ghz @ 1.3v (at the moment, aiming for 5Ghz+ on air) • Noctua NH-U12P (87° LOAD) • Asus Maximus 4 Extreme - BIOS 3208 • 12GB DDR3 1600Mhz CL9 (2x4GB + 2x2GB Corsair Vengeance) • Corsair Force 3 60GB + 4TB \| Corsair TX750 • 3DMark Vantage: P24785 <---> 3DMark11: P6459 System @ 136W IDLE, 391W LOAD! Last edited by sk1llz; 02-08-08 at 05:19 PM.
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02-08-08, 07:01 AM	#3
muddocktor Retired Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Iberia, LA	Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. If you aren't going Crossfire, there's no need to go with an X38 board and you can find some good values in P35 boards now. Two P35 boards I have personal experience with and recommend are the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L and GA-P35-DS3R boards. They overclock very well out the box and no clearance issues with aftermarket hsf mounting. But they do only have 1 physical 16x pci-e slot though, so there is no chance of going with a CF setup later with them if you wanted to try that out. Last edited by muddocktor; 02-08-08 at 12:45 PM. Reason: spelling
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02-08-08, 06:30 PM	#7
shadin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minneapolis	If you're going with an 8800, then get a P35 for sure. There's no reason to spend the premium to have the "best" Crossfire capability if you're not even planning on going Crossfire. I was in the same boat and went with this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...3&Tpk=p35-t2rs Absolutely love it. __________________ Desktop: Intel i5-3570k - ASRock Z77 Pro4-M - Samsung DDR3-1600 8GB - Crucial M4 128GB - Sapphire HD 6950 2GB - Corsair TX650W I know there's no grand plan here. This is just the way it goes. Heatware
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02-08-08, 09:06 PM	Thread Starter #8
seaborn Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Usually Earth	awesome thanks for the replies. helps a bunch. I am going to go with P35 as CF is not something I am interested in. Cheers all. __________________ CPU: i5-2500k Mobo: Asus P8P67 Deluxe GPU: eVGA Geforce GTX 560 Ti RAM: GSkill DDR3 16 Gb ( 4x4gb) PSU: Rosewill X-tream 750w Cooling: Air. Stock for now. Case: Antec Nine Hundred HDD: 1x128gb SSD M4 HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB OS: Windows 7 Professional
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Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	shouldnt be much longer and we see P45 showing up, that adds pcie 2.0 to P35. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	prolly the higher end ones will 16x/4x like p35 is, my current best guess. since some info is still not released about it.. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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02-09-08, 12:11 AM	#12
vt420 Member Join Date: Jan 2008	personally I have a p35-ds3r and a 3870x2 on order right now, I wont be able to add a 2nd x2, but I didn't plan on have 900 bucks into video card anyway. The p35 boards are significantly cheaper for no performance loss as long as you aren't trying to run 2 vid cards. If you're buying nvidia, don't bother with an x38 board as you still can't run 2 even on the x boards.
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Enablingwolf Senior Member overclocking at the speed of plaid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Strongsville	Did I find a new love in the P35? I been waiting on my spanking new, P35 (DS3L) to tell me the E2200 sitting @3.3 is wrong. Yes for now stock air... Then I will break out the big cooling stuff. The wide FBS is nice.
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