Vista and heartache running FAH/SETI in the Program Files folder, why is that?

benbaked · 02-21-08, 02:27 PM

I didn't want to jack someone else's thread, and I'm just curious really. Why does Vista complain if a DC project such as FAH or SETI is installed into the Program Files folder? Is this something caused by UAC, a bug in Vista, or just Microsoft being overly restrictive?

Alpha_One · 02-21-08, 03:38 PM

Vista's just really anal about stuff being in the Program Files folder. Ergo, it's a feature.

So yes, it's just MS being overly restrictive.

deadlysyn · 02-21-08, 03:40 PM

That seems odd. Is it only an SMP thing? I just installed Vista Ultimate just the other day, and have been running FAH out of the Program Files folder with no problems. But I have UAC turned off, and added the line to the registry to turn off it's notifications.

Alpha_One · 02-21-08, 03:56 PM

I'm not sure which part of Vista causes the problems (the only time I use it is when I borrow the bro's laptop), but I think it's got something to do with UAC.

jstutman · 02-21-08, 04:16 PM

benbaked, that feature was added a while back to increase the amount of trouble people will have with Vista so they switch there folding to Linux

harlam357 · 02-21-08, 04:26 PM

+1 for this rant

It's my freakin' hard drive and I'll put things where I darn well please!!!

benbaked · 02-21-08, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstutman

benbaked, that feature was added a while back to increase the amount of trouble people will have with Vista so they switch there folding to Linux

Ah, so that's why.

Hack30 · 02-21-08, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harlam357

+1 for this rant

It's my freakin' hard drive and I'll put things where I darn well please!!!

chuckle chuckle

I second the motion.

NedClocker · 02-21-08, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harlam357

+1 for this rant

It's my freakin' hard drive and I'll put things where I darn well please!!!

Amen, brother!!! Amen!!!

I don't like things being dictated for me.

harlam357 · 02-22-08, 08:28 AM

/rant (extended)

It's like in XP we got that, "You should not be dinking with the Windows Folder, are you sure you want to view the files?", and you could turn that crap off and fire away doing whatever you please.

Now with Vista you can turn UAC off but they still lock down certain Folders on your file system because M$ thinks everyone is ignorant of their file system.

Until I can work around those types of issues... I'm sticking with my XP.

/end rant

ChasR · 02-22-08, 08:56 AM

Same here. One Vista rig that won't hook up to my home network, unless I install some MS security software on every other computer, is all I can stand.

benbaked · 02-22-08, 09:55 AM

I was given a copy of Vista Business edition last year, it was pretty, but for one thing I grew tired of hearing it thrash my drive all of the time, so I gave it back and went back to XP x64 Edition. I'm happy, things work.

7im · 02-22-08, 02:26 PM

Vista is a memory hog. Unless you have 2GB of memory or more, it's going to continually hit your pagefile on the hard drive when running multiple applications.

But it's easy to work around Vista's additional security. Most people see UAC as a nag, and so disable it. Or you can install the client in to C:\Users\<username>\FAH and it won't have any problems.

How_do_I_install_the_SMP_Console_client_in_Windows _Vista?

NedClocker · 02-22-08, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by benbaked

I was given a copy of Vista Business edition last year, it was pretty, but for one thing I grew tired of hearing it thrash my drive all of the time, so I gave it back and went back to XP x64 Edition. I'm happy, things work.

The best I/O is no I/O.

Sounds like I should stay away from Vista, then.

02-21-08, 02:27 PM	Thread Starter #1
benbaked Folding/SETI/Rosetta Team Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WA	Vista and heartache running FAH/SETI in the Program Files folder, why is that? I didn't want to jack someone else's thread, and I'm just curious really. Why does Vista complain if a DC project such as FAH or SETI is installed into the Program Files folder? Is this something caused by UAC, a bug in Vista, or just Microsoft being overly restrictive? __________________ HEATWARE (22-0) \| Folding/SETI/Rosetta (crunching BOINC as the ben.World.order) *My computer hardware is too old and embarrassing to list in my sig.* StaTek is my hero
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Alpha_One Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cavite, Philippines	I'm not sure which part of Vista causes the problems (the only time I use it is when I borrow the bro's laptop), but I think it's got something to do with UAC. __________________ "That is what you get when you don't play nice!" -Freespace 2 Wingman "The Workhorse" : Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 @ 3.21Ghz / 1.34VCore \| Foxconn P9657AA-8KS2H \| 2x1GB Kingston ValueRAM PC2-5300 @ 642 4-4-4-12 \| Inno3D 6600 "The Rebel: Intel Pentium 4 530J @ 3.6GHz \| ECS G31T-M \| 2x1GB Kingston ValueRAM PC2-6400 @ 960 5-5-5-15 \| Intel GMA3100 "The Scholar": Acer 5540 series \| Intel Core Duo T2050 \| 2GB Transcend PC2-5300 \| Intel GMA950 Folding for Team 32 under the name Triple_Ace
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harlam357 Senior Fold-a-holic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: @Home... Folding@Home	+1 for this rant It's my freakin' hard drive and I'll put things where I darn well please!!! __________________ HFM.NET - Client Monitoring Application for Folding@Home \| Team 32 Super Sticky \| Project Quadteron \| Heat (66-0-0)
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harlam357 Senior Fold-a-holic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: @Home... Folding@Home	/rant (extended) It's like in XP we got that, "You should not be dinking with the Windows Folder, are you sure you want to view the files?", and you could turn that crap off and fire away doing whatever you please. Now with Vista you can turn UAC off but they still lock down certain Folders on your file system because M$ thinks everyone is ignorant of their file system. Until I can work around those types of issues... I'm sticking with my XP. /end rant __________________ HFM.NET - Client Monitoring Application for Folding@Home \| Team 32 Super Sticky \| Project Quadteron \| Heat (66-0-0)
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02-22-08, 09:55 AM	Thread Starter #12
benbaked Folding/SETI/Rosetta Team Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WA	I was given a copy of Vista Business edition last year, it was pretty, but for one thing I grew tired of hearing it thrash my drive all of the time, so I gave it back and went back to XP x64 Edition. I'm happy, things work. __________________ HEATWARE (22-0) \| Folding/SETI/Rosetta (crunching BOINC as the ben.World.order) *My computer hardware is too old and embarrassing to list in my sig.* StaTek is my hero
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02-22-08, 02:26 PM	#13
7im Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Valley of the Sun	Vista is a memory hog. Unless you have 2GB of memory or more, it's going to continually hit your pagefile on the hard drive when running multiple applications. But it's easy to work around Vista's additional security. Most people see UAC as a nag, and so disable it. Or you can install the client in to C:\Users\<username>\FAH and it won't have any problems. How_do_I_install_the_SMP_Console_client_in_Windows _Vista?
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