So I got my RMA back from Crucial Ballistix ....

||Console|| · 03-04-08, 10:30 PM

So I go pick up my ram that came in from RMA today, and some thing doesn't look right . When i get home I compaire it to my other set . ( I have 2 set of 2x1gig 6400's) . It is different , they got rid of the clips on the top that hold the heat spreads. IDK what they used to keep them on now but it looks way better and takes up less room . I will update soon as I test more . (right now they are @ 500mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v )

Top is the old ram bottm is the new on both pics. If any one know any thing about these new 6400's please share =)

On a side note why does XP 64 bit feal faster ?

Hazaro · 03-04-08, 10:41 PM

I think those are the non D9 chips

||Console|| · 03-04-08, 11:10 PM

4x1 gig @ 500

Xp 32 bit ( my old ram )

LilBuddy · 03-04-08, 11:16 PM

I got the same kind back a few days ago except mine are PC8500.

||Console|| · 03-05-08, 12:20 AM

Ok new ram will not do 500mhz @ 4-4-4-12 2.2v will not do 600mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v
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tranceaddict · 03-05-08, 12:31 AM

I had the same RAM except PC8500, and went through 2 RMAs until I finally got the sticks which are in my sig.

lokie · 03-05-08, 09:29 AM

I just got back some tracer pc8500 yesterday and they have no clips. The guy at crucial told me they are still d9s. Right now they are running at 940 with no problems.

jason4207 · 03-05-08, 10:51 AM

It's easy to see in the 1st pic. If you see RAM chips on both sides of the PCB (DS) then you have D9's, and if they are only on one side (SS) then you have the new stuff which doesn't OC to anywhere near the same level.

I'd send them back, and request the DS modules or store credit.

lokie · 03-05-08, 12:05 PM

Thats what i did i told the guy i didnt want the new single sided ones because i read the single sided ones didnt overclock as well as the older ones. I made him check just to make sure they still had them in stock otherwise i would have requested pc6400 instead.

Evilsizer · 03-05-08, 01:10 PM

the ic's are still D9's, just a different set of D9's. its not GMH or GHX D9's this has been covered in the Balli poll thread. these new IC's are higher density like the D9HNL's, the HNL's are not what is being used. as they dont like anything over 1.9volts, the max i got my HNL's was to DDR2-900 5-5-5-15@1.9v from DDR2-667 5-5-5-15 1.8v. higher density IC's will not oc like the other stuff does. with micron moving towards ddr3 dont expect the to be focusing on overclockable memory any more in the DDR2 segment.

03-04-08, 10:30 PM	Thread Starter #1
\|\|Console\|\| Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Halifax, NS	So I got my RMA back from Crucial Ballistix .... So I go pick up my ram that came in from RMA today, and some thing doesn't look right . When i get home I compaire it to my other set . ( I have 2 set of 2x1gig 6400's) . It is different , they got rid of the clips on the top that hold the heat spreads. IDK what they used to keep them on now but it looks way better and takes up less room . I will update soon as I test more . (right now they are @ 500mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v ) Top is the old ram bottm is the new on both pics. If any one know any thing about these new 6400's please share =) On a side note why does XP 64 bit feal faster ? __________________ [CPU]---[E8400 E0 @ 4.5ghz 1.38v][MainBoard]---[XFX 780I] [GFX]---[ATI 6950 2Gig ][RAM]---[OCZ PC-6400 2x2gig 5-4-4-15 @ 1.9v ] [PSU]---[Corsair HX 620w][Cooling]---[Antec 900 / TR 120E ] [Display]---[ Ben-Q E2200HD 1920x1080][HDDs]---[ 3x250 Seagate 7200.10 Raid 0 /2x1Tb WD Storage] " If that Bong is filled with the right stuff you wouldn't give a damn how much noise the cooling system made lol" ViperJohn Last edited by \|\|Console\|\|; 03-04-08 at 11:05 PM.
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03-04-08, 10:41 PM	#2
Hazaro Member Join Date: Apr 2007	I think those are the non D9 chips __________________ 2500K @4.2GHz, P8P67 PRO, 8GB G.Skill Sniper, RocketFish Case, 2x 6950, X750 PSU, TRUE120 ~Heatware~
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03-04-08, 11:10 PM	Thread Starter #3
\|\|Console\|\| Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Halifax, NS	4x1 gig @ 500 Xp 32 bit ( my old ram ) __________________ [CPU]---[E8400 E0 @ 4.5ghz 1.38v][MainBoard]---[XFX 780I] [GFX]---[ATI 6950 2Gig ][RAM]---[OCZ PC-6400 2x2gig 5-4-4-15 @ 1.9v ] [PSU]---[Corsair HX 620w][Cooling]---[Antec 900 / TR 120E ] [Display]---[ Ben-Q E2200HD 1920x1080][HDDs]---[ 3x250 Seagate 7200.10 Raid 0 /2x1Tb WD Storage] " If that Bong is filled with the right stuff you wouldn't give a damn how much noise the cooling system made lol" ViperJohn
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03-04-08, 11:16 PM	#4
LilBuddy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Irving, Tx	I got the same kind back a few days ago except mine are PC8500. __________________ Intel E8400 @ 4005 (445x9 @ 1.37v) - Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - 2x1gb Crucial Ballistix PC8500 - 2x36gb Raptor in RAID 0 - 640gb WD Black - EVGA 8800GT (730/1700/2060) - Antec 900 - Seasonic M12 700W AMD 3600+ Brisbane - Abit NF-M2 Nview P4 2.8C @ 3094 - ECS PT880 NEO MB - ATI 9800 Pro AMD 1700+ @ 2272 - Epox 8RGA+ AMD T-Bird 1400 @ 1650
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03-05-08, 12:20 AM	Thread Starter #5
\|\|Console\|\| Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Halifax, NS	Ok new ram will not do 500mhz @ 4-4-4-12 2.2v will not do 600mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v =( __________________ [CPU]---[E8400 E0 @ 4.5ghz 1.38v][MainBoard]---[XFX 780I] [GFX]---[ATI 6950 2Gig ][RAM]---[OCZ PC-6400 2x2gig 5-4-4-15 @ 1.9v ] [PSU]---[Corsair HX 620w][Cooling]---[Antec 900 / TR 120E ] [Display]---[ Ben-Q E2200HD 1920x1080][HDDs]---[ 3x250 Seagate 7200.10 Raid 0 /2x1Tb WD Storage] " If that Bong is filled with the right stuff you wouldn't give a damn how much noise the cooling system made lol" ViperJohn
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03-05-08, 12:31 AM	#6
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03-05-08, 09:29 AM	#7
lokie Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hornell, New york.	I just got back some tracer pc8500 yesterday and they have no clips. The guy at crucial told me they are still d9s. Right now they are running at 940 with no problems. __________________ Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Edition, E8400@4.3, 2 Gigs Of Ocz Fatality PC8500, 2 Gigs Ocz Pc8500 Sli,Scythe Mugen 11 Cpu Cooler. 320 Gig sata H/D, Ozc Gamestream 700 Watt P/S, Ati 2600XT HD,Chieftec Ultra Full Tower, Westinghouse 20.1 Inch Lcd. Second Rig, Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Edition, Q6600@3.6 , 2 Gigs of Crucial Ballistix Tracer Pc6400, Zalmon 9500 Led, 160 Gig sata H/D, Ati Sapphire X1650, Ozc StealthXstream 600 Watt P/S, Chieftec Ultra Full Tower, 17 Inch Balance Lcd.
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03-05-08, 10:51 AM	#8
jason4207 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Concord, NC	It's easy to see in the 1st pic. If you see RAM chips on both sides of the PCB (DS) then you have D9's, and if they are only on one side (SS) then you have the new stuff which doesn't OC to anywhere near the same level. I'd send them back, and request the DS modules or store credit. __________________ MAIN RIG: 3570K @ 4.5GHz 1.272v H100i Extreme4-Z77 8GB-G.Skill @ 2200MHz 9-11-11-28 1.60v CM_430-Elite GTX670_DCuII_TOP @ 1358/7244 1.212v Xplosion-DTS 256GB-Samsung_830 1TB-Black Seasonic_X-750 27.5"-1200P-LCD Z5500-5.1 \|\| PLV-Z4_720P_Projector_95" Paradigm_6.1_DTS-ES G9_Mouse Logitech_Illuminated_KB Logitech_G27_Wheel+Microsim_Racing_Pod *HEAT* GAMING HTPC: i3-550 @ 4.5GHz 1.35v H70 MSI_H55M-ED55 4GB-G.Skill @ 1875MHz 7-9-7-23 1T GTS450 @ 970/1940/2100 240GB_Sandisk_Extreme 640GB_Blue Corsair_CX430 Panny 42S2 1080P Plasma unRAID FILE SERVER: E5200-M0 @ 2GHz 0.856v MSIP43Neo3-F 4GB-Corsair @ 800MHz CM590 Antec550W 19TB-Parity_Protected_Storage / 1TB-Cache / 2TB-Parity / 10x2TB 2x1TB
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03-05-08, 12:05 PM	#9
lokie Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hornell, New york.	Thats what i did i told the guy i didnt want the new single sided ones because i read the single sided ones didnt overclock as well as the older ones. I made him check just to make sure they still had them in stock otherwise i would have requested pc6400 instead. __________________ Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Edition, E8400@4.3, 2 Gigs Of Ocz Fatality PC8500, 2 Gigs Ocz Pc8500 Sli,Scythe Mugen 11 Cpu Cooler. 320 Gig sata H/D, Ozc Gamestream 700 Watt P/S, Ati 2600XT HD,Chieftec Ultra Full Tower, Westinghouse 20.1 Inch Lcd. Second Rig, Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Edition, Q6600@3.6 , 2 Gigs of Crucial Ballistix Tracer Pc6400, Zalmon 9500 Led, 160 Gig sata H/D, Ati Sapphire X1650, Ozc StealthXstream 600 Watt P/S, Chieftec Ultra Full Tower, 17 Inch Balance Lcd. Last edited by lokie; 03-05-08 at 12:13 PM.
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Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	the ic's are still D9's, just a different set of D9's. its not GMH or GHX D9's this has been covered in the Balli poll thread. these new IC's are higher density like the D9HNL's, the HNL's are not what is being used. as they dont like anything over 1.9volts, the max i got my HNL's was to DDR2-900 5-5-5-15@1.9v from DDR2-667 5-5-5-15 1.8v. higher density IC's will not oc like the other stuff does. with micron moving towards ddr3 dont expect the to be focusing on overclockable memory any more in the DDR2 segment. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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