Best CPU water block?

pseudonym · 03-16-08, 12:12 AM

Any thoughts on the best CPU block out there? I wanna upgrade, price doesn't matter.

thideras · 03-16-08, 12:14 AM

to the forums!

We need a bit more info. Best block for what? The QX6800 in your sig?

Personally, I'm a huge fan of the Apogee, but there is another out there that I wanted to try but I can't remember the name

. Basically it has an input in the center that pushes the water to four corners...

Froggy · 03-16-08, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thideras

to the forums!

We need a bit more info. Best block for what? The QX6800 in your sig?

Personally, I'm a huge fan of the Apogee, but there is another out there that I wanted to try but I can't remember the name

. Basically it has an input in the center that pushes the water to four corners...

The Dtek Fuzion?

thideras · 03-16-08, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Dawes

The Dtek Fuzion?

That one!

pseudonym · 03-16-08, 08:58 AM

Yah I guess I shoulda put a bit more info down. Yes the 6800 is what I have now. But, I also want to get a bigger faster chip, maybe a 9650 or something, a little later this year. I just have the Thermaltake serpentine block that came with my kandalf LCS. Which by the way has performed way better than I though it would! I had it @4.2ghz-1.7v and no core got over 40 degs. That D-tek does seem to be the winner though doesn't it?

Nebulous · 03-16-08, 09:39 AM

Welcome to O/C Forums!

Yup, the Dtek Fuzion is the rage. The Apogee is also a great wb. Personally I like the Classic MCW6002 as I prefer the larger water channels and is less restrictive.

Just got a Swiftech Storm which I'll be using on my new 775 build:

DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL
Xeon E3110
2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2 6400

Rad & pump will be from my rig in sig.

What radiator, pump will you be using? Going with a resevoir or "T" line?

pseudonym · 03-16-08, 10:06 AM

Ive got the Thermaltake pump and res. that came with the case and a swiftech 355 running in parallel with the other pump. I also have/had(explanation to follow) TT M1 bay res. and flow meter. The M1 res. just cracked on me 'cuz I was using alcohol to clean the loop and it cracked the acrylic plates on the res. So right now it has been bi-passed until I can make some new copper endplates (I love working in a machine shop!). I know I won't be able to see the fluid level but the added copper sinks will keep things cooler,I hope. As soon as I took that res. out of the loop my temps went up 3 degs!

pseudonym · 03-16-08, 10:08 AM

Oh yah the rad is a DD stealth 360X

Nebulous · 03-16-08, 10:26 AM

Verrry nice setup

Yeah, I'm sure the Fuzion will do you just fine.
DTEK Fuzion .

I'm not too keen on the resevoirs as for some reason are prone to leaks and take up valuable space. Tho they are a great thing for filling/bleeding the system. They have their pros & cons. You should avoid adding anything else in the loop like flow meters and stuff like that. They will kill the flow and add more stress to the pump.

The rad looks very good so i'm sure it's up to the task of keeping things cool.

natewildes · 03-16-08, 11:45 AM

www.sidewindercomputers.com or www.petrastechshop.com have much better pricing and customer service than direct-from-manufacturers.

The Fuzion's only competition right now is Eddie's EK Supreme, which when tested, shows very similar temps in CPU-only loops. Be aware, however, that the Supreme has IMMENSE restriction, and therefore loses out to the Fuzion when more blocks/bigger radiators are introduced to the loop.

Despite what Nebulous likes to claim, the 6002 gets pwned by most modern blocks today

Nebulous · 03-16-08, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by natewildes

Despite what Nebulous likes to claim, the 6002 gets pwned by most modern blocks today

I never recommended the 6002 to him and i never claimed it to be the best. I stated what I personally like. Plz don't take my comments out of text.

Pwnage from newer/modern waterblocks is a given as the 6002 is several years old

pseudonym · 03-16-08, 12:14 PM

Easy now boys!!
We're all here to help.
Thank you all for your input. I think I may order a d-tek 2morrow.

Nebulous · 03-16-08, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pseudonym

Easy now boys!!
We're all here to help.
Thank you all for your input. I think I may order a d-tek 2morrow.

Good choice

ancalime · 03-16-08, 12:37 PM

The EK Supreme will beat a stock Fuzion by as much as 3-4 degrees in a CPU only loop.

WonderingSoul · 03-16-08, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ancalime

The EK Supreme will beat a stock Fuzion by as much as 3-4 degrees in a CPU only loop.

Proof on this?

ancalime · 03-16-08, 12:54 PM

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._water_block/4

The EK Supreme beat the Dtek Fuzion significantly on an overclocked quad here. Plus there is mention of a future "high flow" plate that should allow the use of the EK Supreme in a multi block loop.

WonderingSoul · 03-16-08, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancalime

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._water_block/4

The EK Supreme beat the Dtek Fuzion significantly on an overclocked quad here. Plus there is mention of a future "high flow" plate that should allow the use of the EK Supreme in a multi block loop.

Indeed it beats a stock Fuzion. But what about nozzles + bowing?

ancalime · 03-16-08, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WonderingSoul

Indeed it beats a stock Fuzion. But what about nozzles + bowing?

I'd imagine they would be toe to toe in that case. You can't forget though that the Fuzion + nozzle kit is more expensive than the EK Supreme.

WonderingSoul · 03-16-08, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ancalime

I'd imagine they would be toe to toe in that case. You can't forget though that the Fuzion + nozzle kit is more expensive than the EK Supreme.

for performance, price is nothing

We will have to wait and see

pseudonym · 03-16-08, 01:58 PM

I dunno. There's something about the fusion's construction that I like. The EK does seem like a solid contender. I know I can 4sure get the Fusion w/ nozzels here(in Canada) pretty cheap. Remember, no matter what anyone says - north of the border, selection on this kind of stuff is pretty limited. I know for a fact that I couldn't find either of these block over the counter anywhere in this province!

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thideras Banned Neckbeard Moderator Premium Member #3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Dakota	to the forums! We need a bit more info. Best block for what? The QX6800 in your sig? Personally, I'm a huge fan of the Apogee, but there is another out there that I wanted to try but I can't remember the name . Basically it has an input in the center that pushes the water to four corners... __________________ Desktop: Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H \| 3570k 4.6 GHz \| 32 GB GSkill Ares \| GTX 570 \| 180 GB Intel & 2 TB total \| Arch Linux and Windows 7 Main server: 37 TB raw disk \| 2x Opteron 6134 \| Asus KGPE-D16 \| 48 GB RAM \| LSI 8708EM2 \| CentOS 6.2 VM Server 1: Dell R510 \| 2x E5645 \| 128 GB RAM \| 4x 300 GB Velociraptor \| Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) VM Server 2: Dell R710 \| 2x E5645 \| 288 GB RAM \| 8x 300 GB Velociraptor \| Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) "That's not overkill, or a lot. That's just thiderastic." -txus.palacios Current projects: Rackmount Overkill (New) \| 30/45 hard drive server Articles: Rack Mounting 101 \| Dell Perc 5/i Throughput Benchmarks Past projects: Software RAID \| The Dragon Case My Website *Want to talk directly to all* the moderators at once? Call the Mod Hotline!**
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03-16-08, 08:58 AM	Thread Starter #5
pseudonym Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada	Yah I guess I shoulda put a bit more info down. Yes the 6800 is what I have now. But, I also want to get a bigger faster chip, maybe a 9650 or something, a little later this year. I just have the Thermaltake serpentine block that came with my kandalf LCS. Which by the way has performed way better than I though it would! I had it @4.2ghz-1.7v and no core got over 40 degs. That D-tek does seem to be the winner though doesn't it?
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03-16-08, 09:39 AM	#6
Nebulous Señor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Empire State	Welcome to O/C Forums! Yup, the Dtek Fuzion is the rage. The Apogee is also a great wb. Personally I like the Classic MCW6002 as I prefer the larger water channels and is less restrictive. Just got a Swiftech Storm which I'll be using on my new 775 build: DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL Xeon E3110 2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2 6400 Rad & pump will be from my rig in sig. What radiator, pump will you be using? Going with a resevoir or "T" line? __________________ <MEGA-O> Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H / i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz 16GB GSKILL Sniper F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR XSPC Rasa Black / RX360 / MCP-655 / MCRes OCZ Vertex III SSD 120GB / 2x Seagates 500GB~Raid-0 XFX Double D FX-787A-CDBC Radeon HD 7870 + H80 Sony AD-7220S / Lite On LH-16A1S SilverStone Zeus ZM1350 1350w CM Cosmos 1000 / Win7 Pro x64 Samsung LN40A550 40" HD TV ** Under TITLE II, SECTION 210.340 it is legal to overclock **
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pseudonym Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada	Ive got the Thermaltake pump and res. that came with the case and a swiftech 355 running in parallel with the other pump. I also have/had(explanation to follow) TT M1 bay res. and flow meter. The M1 res. just cracked on me 'cuz I was using alcohol to clean the loop and it cracked the acrylic plates on the res. So right now it has been bi-passed until I can make some new copper endplates (I love working in a machine shop!). I know I won't be able to see the fluid level but the added copper sinks will keep things cooler,I hope. As soon as I took that res. out of the loop my temps went up 3 degs! Attached Images
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pseudonym Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada	Oh yah the rad is a DD stealth 360X
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Nebulous Señor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Empire State	Verrry nice setup Yeah, I'm sure the Fuzion will do you just fine. DTEK Fuzion . I'm not too keen on the resevoirs as for some reason are prone to leaks and take up valuable space. Tho they are a great thing for filling/bleeding the system. They have their pros & cons. You should avoid adding anything else in the loop like flow meters and stuff like that. They will kill the flow and add more stress to the pump. The rad looks very good so i'm sure it's up to the task of keeping things cool. __________________ <MEGA-O> Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H / i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz 16GB GSKILL Sniper F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR XSPC Rasa Black / RX360 / MCP-655 / MCRes OCZ Vertex III SSD 120GB / 2x Seagates 500GB~Raid-0 XFX Double D FX-787A-CDBC Radeon HD 7870 + H80 Sony AD-7220S / Lite On LH-16A1S SilverStone Zeus ZM1350 1350w CM Cosmos 1000 / Win7 Pro x64 Samsung LN40A550 40" HD TV ** Under TITLE II, SECTION 210.340 it is legal to overclock **
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03-16-08, 11:45 AM	#10
natewildes Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA	www.sidewindercomputers.com or www.petrastechshop.com have much better pricing and customer service than direct-from-manufacturers. The Fuzion's only competition right now is Eddie's EK Supreme, which when tested, shows very similar temps in CPU-only loops. Be aware, however, that the Supreme has IMMENSE restriction, and therefore loses out to the Fuzion when more blocks/bigger radiators are introduced to the loop. Despite what Nebulous likes to claim, the 6002 gets pwned by most modern blocks today __________________ Macbook Pro for life.
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03-16-08, 12:14 PM	Thread Starter #12
pseudonym Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada	Easy now boys!! We're all here to help. Thank you all for your input. I think I may order a d-tek 2morrow.
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03-16-08, 12:37 PM	#14
ancalime Join Date: Mar 2007	The EK Supreme will beat a stock Fuzion by as much as 3-4 degrees in a CPU only loop. __________________ Main Rig CPU: AMD X2 4200+ @ 2.71 GHz (258 x 10.5) \| Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe GPU: EVGA Geforce 7800 GT (SLI) 465/1101 HDD: Western Digital 80GB \| RAM: 2GB Patriot DDR 400 2-3-3-5 C2D Rig CPU: Intel E6750 @ 3.7GHz \| Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro GPU: EVGA GTX260 HDD: 2x Western Digital Raptor 150GB RAID 0 \| RAM: 2GB Patriot Extreme Performance DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 1T Heat
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ancalime Join Date: Mar 2007	http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._water_block/4 The EK Supreme beat the Dtek Fuzion significantly on an overclocked quad here. Plus there is mention of a future "high flow" plate that should allow the use of the EK Supreme in a multi block loop. __________________ Main Rig CPU: AMD X2 4200+ @ 2.71 GHz (258 x 10.5) \| Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe GPU: EVGA Geforce 7800 GT (SLI) 465/1101 HDD: Western Digital 80GB \| RAM: 2GB Patriot DDR 400 2-3-3-5 C2D Rig CPU: Intel E6750 @ 3.7GHz \| Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro GPU: EVGA GTX260 HDD: 2x Western Digital Raptor 150GB RAID 0 \| RAM: 2GB Patriot Extreme Performance DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 1T Heat
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03-16-08, 01:58 PM	Thread Starter #20
pseudonym Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada	I dunno. There's something about the fusion's construction that I like. The EK does seem like a solid contender. I know I can 4sure get the Fusion w/ nozzels here(in Canada) pretty cheap. Remember, no matter what anyone says - north of the border, selection on this kind of stuff is pretty limited. I know for a fact that I couldn't find either of these block over the counter anywhere in this province!
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