Help A Noob With Building a Rig

Th3pwn3r · 03-20-08, 01:03 PM

Hey guys, I'm thinking about building soonish(2 months or so) but I'm already looking into things and perhaps it's a bad idea as prices may go down but I may build it sooner than 2 months that's just a rough idea. Anyhow, I play FPS games and RTS games more than anything but I'd use this rig for movies and music as well.

C13-7084 :: Corsair XMS3 2048MB Dual Channel PC10600 DDR3 1333MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) (0.2 lbs)
In Stock $119.99 $119.99

P450-8672 :: XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX Video Card - 256MB DDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Zalman Fansink, Video Card (1.7 lbs)
In Stock $109.99 $109.99

CP1-DUO-E6850 :: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Processor BX80557E6850 - 3.0GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan (1.6 lbs)
In Stock $299.99 $299.99

E145-2036 :: EVGA nForce 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, eSATA, RAID (4.85 lbs)
In Stock $369.99 $369.99

C283-1171 :: Cooler Master CM Stacker 830 ATX Full-Tower Aluminum Case with Vented Side and 1000-Watt Power Supply (42.8 lbs)
In Stock $349.99 $349.99

I know that video card, ram and processor aren't the best but this is just to get the machine up and running. The ram will be swapped and new cards will get installed weeks after the initial build. I already have a Soundblaster X Fi Platinum and hard drives so I was wondering what you guys think of the items picked out. I hope this is the right section for this, if not flame me

This should have been in the general section...SORRY GUYS!

Evilsizer · 03-20-08, 02:00 PM

would drop the cpu to a E44 or E45 to save some money to go to a beter video card. what case is that ddr3? why ddr3, when ddr2 is so much cheaper right now?

GTengineer · 03-20-08, 02:07 PM

I don't understand why you are planning to swap out the cpu/ram/video in a few weeks after the initial build? You can get better components cheaper now without having to buy new stuff later.

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C13-7084 :: Corsair XMS3 2048MB Dual Channel PC10600 DDR3 1333MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) (0.2 lbs)
In Stock $119.99 $119.99

Ditch DDR3 it is overpriced and useless right now. Go with 2x2GB DDR2 PC8000 or PC8500.
example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1000+(PC2+8000)

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P450-8672 :: XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX Video Card - 256MB DDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Zalman Fansink, Video Card (1.7 lbs)
In Stock $109.99 $109.99

Ditch this abomination of a card. Go with a 8800GT or 8800GTS 512MB.

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CP1-DUO-E6850 :: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Processor BX80557E6850 - 3.0GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan (1.6 lbs)
In Stock $299.99 $299.99

I would go with E8400 or X3110

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E145-2036 :: EVGA nForce 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, eSATA, RAID (4.85 lbs)
In Stock $369.99 $369.99

Unless you want to eventually run dual video cards (SLI), I would ditch this and get a better board for the money. Asus Maximum Formula, or Asus P5K Premium. The money you save here you can put towards a better video card.

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C283-1171 :: Cooler Master CM Stacker 830 ATX Full-Tower Aluminum Case with Vented Side and 1000-Watt Power Supply (42.8 lbs)
In Stock $349.99 $349.99

I would buy the case and PSU separate.

This is a nice and popular full tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119138

I'll let someone else comment on PSU though.

Th3pwn3r · 03-20-08, 03:57 PM

The reason I chose that video card is because it's temporary, I will be running Tri SLI(Probably and that ram with be swapped with 4GB(DDR3) from OCZ. I'm starting to think that Quad Core is a better idea though but I don't want to shell out the 1000+ for the premium =/ But I'm willing to shell out 1500 for cards later, hmm...does that make sense? Haha.

Oh and GTEngineer, that's a completely different case that you linked me to, I like the features of the Stacker 830 more than any other case I've looked at and it runs $279 so I might as well pay the extra 80 bucks for the CM PSU(I hope it's rated accurately for those 1,000watts).

ou_phidelt · 03-20-08, 05:12 PM

If you want a cheap video card look at a 8800GS. They can be found for ~$110 after rebate.

No sense in getting an extreme processor. The Q6600 has a lot of value per dollar. The the Q9450 is starting to show up as well. I still like the Q6600 on a value basis. Even if you wanted to stay with a dual go with an E8400 over the 6850.

As others have mentioned DDR3 is not worth the cost premium associated with it.

I think you would be much better off waiting until you are ready to do your final build and do it right the first time.

Brian@EWIZ · 03-20-08, 05:40 PM

at least get a bfg for lifetime warranty, its only $6 more here
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=BFG-86GSOC

and just get a q6600 oem and overclock that to 3.2ghz easy!
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=Q6600

i think youre spending your money in too many random parts, but hey its your money =]

Th3pwn3r · 03-21-08, 07:59 AM

I appreciate the help guys, thanks! As someone mentioned in this thread, I'll probably wait until I decide I really want the comp and then build it. Things will probably be cheaper too.

03-20-08, 01:03 PM	Thread Starter #1
Th3pwn3r New Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Help A Noob With Building a Rig Hey guys, I'm thinking about building soonish(2 months or so) but I'm already looking into things and perhaps it's a bad idea as prices may go down but I may build it sooner than 2 months that's just a rough idea. Anyhow, I play FPS games and RTS games more than anything but I'd use this rig for movies and music as well. C13-7084 :: Corsair XMS3 2048MB Dual Channel PC10600 DDR3 1333MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) (0.2 lbs) In Stock $119.99 $119.99 P450-8672 :: XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX Video Card - 256MB DDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Zalman Fansink, Video Card (1.7 lbs) In Stock $109.99 $109.99 CP1-DUO-E6850 :: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Processor BX80557E6850 - 3.0GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan (1.6 lbs) In Stock $299.99 $299.99 E145-2036 :: EVGA nForce 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, eSATA, RAID (4.85 lbs) In Stock $369.99 $369.99 C283-1171 :: Cooler Master CM Stacker 830 ATX Full-Tower Aluminum Case with Vented Side and 1000-Watt Power Supply (42.8 lbs) In Stock $349.99 $349.99 I know that video card, ram and processor aren't the best but this is just to get the machine up and running. The ram will be swapped and new cards will get installed weeks after the initial build. I already have a Soundblaster X Fi Platinum and hard drives so I was wondering what you guys think of the items picked out. I hope this is the right section for this, if not flame me This should have been in the general section...SORRY GUYS! Last edited by Th3pwn3r; 03-20-08 at 01:08 PM. Reason: Because I'm an idiot. Posted in the wrong section FTL.
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Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	would drop the cpu to a E44 or E45 to save some money to go to a beter video card. what case is that ddr3? why ddr3, when ddr2 is so much cheaper right now? __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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03-20-08, 03:57 PM	Thread Starter #4
Th3pwn3r New Member Join Date: Mar 2008	The reason I chose that video card is because it's temporary, I will be running Tri SLI(Probably and that ram with be swapped with 4GB(DDR3) from OCZ. I'm starting to think that Quad Core is a better idea though but I don't want to shell out the 1000+ for the premium =/ But I'm willing to shell out 1500 for cards later, hmm...does that make sense? Haha. Oh and GTEngineer, that's a completely different case that you linked me to, I like the features of the Stacker 830 more than any other case I've looked at and it runs $279 so I might as well pay the extra 80 bucks for the CM PSU(I hope it's rated accurately for those 1,000watts). Last edited by Th3pwn3r; 03-20-08 at 04:02 PM.
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03-20-08, 05:12 PM	#5
ou_phidelt Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rockingham, NC	If you want a cheap video card look at a 8800GS. They can be found for ~$110 after rebate. No sense in getting an extreme processor. The Q6600 has a lot of value per dollar. The the Q9450 is starting to show up as well. I still like the Q6600 on a value basis. Even if you wanted to stay with a dual go with an E8400 over the 6850. As others have mentioned DDR3 is not worth the cost premium associated with it. I think you would be much better off waiting until you are ready to do your final build and do it right the first time. __________________ HEAT
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03-20-08, 05:40 PM	#6
Brian@EWIZ ewiz rep Join Date: Mar 2008	at least get a bfg for lifetime warranty, its only $6 more here http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=BFG-86GSOC and just get a q6600 oem and overclock that to 3.2ghz easy! http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=Q6600 i think youre spending your money in too many random parts, but hey its your money =]
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03-21-08, 07:59 AM	Thread Starter #7
Th3pwn3r New Member Join Date: Mar 2008	I appreciate the help guys, thanks! As someone mentioned in this thread, I'll probably wait until I decide I really want the comp and then build it. Things will probably be cheaper too.
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