Frosty Tech Reviews

TombKeeper · 04-08-08, 03:02 PM

Anyone know whether the heatsink reviews on Frosty Tech are trustworthy or not?

This list is what I'm really interested in:

http://frostytech.com/articleview.cf...id=2260&page=5

CGR · 04-08-08, 03:49 PM

I have not heard of that site.

I prefer Anandtech's list. Its smaller but has all the major HS's

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...spx?i=3268&p=5

sprok · 04-08-08, 05:54 PM

The newest review uses coretemp instead of ntune though, so you can't really compare them to older ones.

meionm · 04-08-08, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sprok

The newest review uses coretemp instead of ntune though, so you can't really compare them to older ones.

Thats strange becasue they say that their test are synthetic

http://www.frostytech.com/testmethod_mk2.cfm

sprok · 04-08-08, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by meionm

Thats strange becasue they say that their test are synthetic

http://www.frostytech.com/testmethod_mk2.cfm

Sorry, my comment was about anandtech.

gsrcrxsi · 04-08-08, 08:37 PM

hmm so that noctuna is supposed to be better thn the true. thoughts?

DavidNJ · 04-08-08, 10:13 PM

By using a synthetic heat source, Frosty Tech has potentially more consistent test.

However, they haven't been rigourous in ensuring fans, when not supplied with the heat sink, are consistent in their tests. As a result, the Thermalright Ultra outperformed the Ultra Extreme.

Additionally, the synthetic heat source doesn't model the effect of the heat distribution on the face of the IHS. Exposed heat pipe HSF do well on their tests. In real life, only one of the heat pipes works with the hot part of the IHS.

jchunter · 04-08-08, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TombKeeper

Anyone know whether the heatsink reviews on Frosty Tech are trustworthy or not?
This list is what I'm really interested in:
http://frostytech.com/articleview.cf...id=2260&page=5

The FrostyTech review only tests up to a 150W heat source. OK for a Duo but an overclocked Q6600 can put out well north of 200W @ 3.6GHz. If you are running a quad, I would find tests in that range before buying.

jchunter · 04-08-08, 11:01 PM

Yes, that review tests with a Q6600 at 3.3GHz, which puts out about 160W. This is OK, but the power level jumps considerably beyond 3.5GHz and my Q is pulling about 215W at 3.6GHz.

tRidiot · 04-08-08, 11:22 PM

Either way, it seemed like an extremely well-conducted test... interesting.

Too darn bad I can't seem to find the Vendetta 2 anywhere for sale.

Das Capitolin · 04-08-08, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tRdoc

Either way, it seemed like an extremely well-conducted test... interesting.

Too darn bad I can't seem to find the Vendetta 2 anywhere for sale.

When I asked OCZ about online prices today, they told me that NewEgg will soon have them and to search by the SKU number until then: OCZVEND2

MooMasster716 · 04-08-08, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jchunter

Yes, that review tests with a Q6600 at 3.3GHz, which puts out about 160W. This is OK, but the power level jumps considerably beyond 3.5GHz and my Q is pulling about 215W at 3.6GHz.

How do you calculate how much wattage is being pulled by your processor?

jchunter · 04-08-08, 11:52 PM

Power is proportional to frequency * Vcore^2. I recorded my overclock data from 2.4GHz to 3.6GHz in a spread sheet and it did the math, assuming that the chip pulled 86W at stock speed. This corelates well with some actual power measurements that I made with a Kill-A-Watt meter. When you graph the data, there is an obvious wall above 3.5 GHz, where small gains require ever more Vcore. I stopped at 1.4375v bios / 1.4v loaded.

TombKeeper · 04-09-08, 06:39 AM

I really like that Zigmatek Red Dragon version... but can't find it anywhere.... too bad.

Prices here in Canada:

Xigmatek S1283 - $36
OCZ Vendetta 2 - $44
Kingwin RVT9225 - $30

tRidiot · 04-09-08, 08:48 AM

Where did you find the OCZ?

tRidiot · 04-09-08, 08:57 AM

http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0285949

$50 is a start I guess... still cheaper than the TRUE. Not in stock, tho.

TombKeeper · 04-09-08, 09:12 AM

At Canada Computers...although I don't shop there. In stock though.

tRidiot · 04-09-08, 09:57 AM

Meh.... Canada.

tRidiot · 04-09-08, 10:07 AM

Nono, I'm in the US... I was saying I didn't want to buy from Canada Computers. I've debated the XT and KW versions of the rifle cooler for some time, but thought maybe I'd go with the OCZ for the heck of it... maybe not.

Das Capitolin · 04-09-08, 10:15 AM

Oh! Then in that case, just wait a week or two. OCZ assures me that NewEgg will have it listed very soon. Yesterday I could search OCZVEND2 and get about five retailers with it, but now none of them come up.

04-08-08, 03:02 PM	Thread Starter #1
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	Frosty Tech Reviews Anyone know whether the heatsink reviews on Frosty Tech are trustworthy or not? This list is what I'm really interested in: http://frostytech.com/articleview.cf...id=2260&page=5 __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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04-08-08, 03:49 PM	#2
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DavidNJ New Member Join Date: Jan 2008	By using a synthetic heat source, Frosty Tech has potentially more consistent test. However, they haven't been rigourous in ensuring fans, when not supplied with the heat sink, are consistent in their tests. As a result, the Thermalright Ultra outperformed the Ultra Extreme. Additionally, the synthetic heat source doesn't model the effect of the heat distribution on the face of the IHS. Exposed heat pipe HSF do well on their tests. In real life, only one of the heat pipes works with the hot part of the IHS.
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04-08-08, 11:01 PM	#9
jchunter Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona	Yes, that review tests with a Q6600 at 3.3GHz, which puts out about 160W. This is OK, but the power level jumps considerably beyond 3.5GHz and my Q is pulling about 215W at 3.6GHz.
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04-08-08, 11:22 PM	#10
tRidiot Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE OK	Either way, it seemed like an extremely well-conducted test... interesting. Too darn bad I can't seem to find the Vendetta 2 anywhere for sale. __________________ Intel Core i7 2600k ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Corsair Vengeance 4GBx4 DDR3 1600 ASUS Matrix GTX 580 Platinum Enermax Revolution 850 watt modular PSU Rosewill Thor2 full tower Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HEAT
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04-08-08, 11:52 PM	#13
jchunter Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona	Power is proportional to frequency * Vcore^2. I recorded my overclock data from 2.4GHz to 3.6GHz in a spread sheet and it did the math, assuming that the chip pulled 86W at stock speed. This corelates well with some actual power measurements that I made with a Kill-A-Watt meter. When you graph the data, there is an obvious wall above 3.5 GHz, where small gains require ever more Vcore. I stopped at 1.4375v bios / 1.4v loaded.
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04-09-08, 06:39 AM	Thread Starter #14
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	I really like that Zigmatek Red Dragon version... but can't find it anywhere.... too bad. Prices here in Canada: Xigmatek S1283 - $36 OCZ Vendetta 2 - $44 Kingwin RVT9225 - $30 __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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04-09-08, 08:48 AM	#15
tRidiot Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE OK	Where did you find the OCZ? __________________ Intel Core i7 2600k ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Corsair Vengeance 4GBx4 DDR3 1600 ASUS Matrix GTX 580 Platinum Enermax Revolution 850 watt modular PSU Rosewill Thor2 full tower Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HEAT
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04-09-08, 08:57 AM	#16
tRidiot Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE OK	http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0285949 $50 is a start I guess... still cheaper than the TRUE. Not in stock, tho. __________________ Intel Core i7 2600k ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Corsair Vengeance 4GBx4 DDR3 1600 ASUS Matrix GTX 580 Platinum Enermax Revolution 850 watt modular PSU Rosewill Thor2 full tower Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HEAT
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04-09-08, 09:12 AM	Thread Starter #17
TombKeeper Member Join Date: May 2004	At Canada Computers...although I don't shop there. In stock though. __________________ MB:............Asus P5Q Pro CPU:..........Intel Xeon E3110 @ 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35V in CPU-Z HS:............Noctua NH-U12P (push-pull) w. MX-2 TIM RAM:.........2x2Gb Mushkin 1066s VIDEO:......MSI 275 GTX SOUND:.....X-Fi Prelude + Logitech Z-5500s HD:............2 x 640Gb WDs PS:............Corsair 750TX CASE:.......Coolermaster Stacker 832 (painted Black in/out) DISPLAY:..Dell 30" 3007 OS:............Windows 7 Pro Other:........Logitech G15 kb, Logitech MX Rev mouse, APC BX1300LCD ups
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04-09-08, 09:57 AM	#18
tRidiot Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE OK	Meh.... Canada. __________________ Intel Core i7 2600k ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Corsair Vengeance 4GBx4 DDR3 1600 ASUS Matrix GTX 580 Platinum Enermax Revolution 850 watt modular PSU Rosewill Thor2 full tower Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HEAT
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04-09-08, 10:07 AM	#19
tRidiot Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: NE OK	Nono, I'm in the US... I was saying I didn't want to buy from Canada Computers. I've debated the XT and KW versions of the rifle cooler for some time, but thought maybe I'd go with the OCZ for the heck of it... maybe not. __________________ Intel Core i7 2600k ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Corsair Vengeance 4GBx4 DDR3 1600 ASUS Matrix GTX 580 Platinum Enermax Revolution 850 watt modular PSU Rosewill Thor2 full tower Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HEAT
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04-09-08, 10:15 AM	#20
Das Capitolin New Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Oh! Then in that case, just wait a week or two. OCZ assures me that NewEgg will have it listed very soon. Yesterday I could search OCZVEND2 and get about five retailers with it, but now none of them come up.
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